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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.

+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.

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Anonymous wrote:Disappointed in Grohl. Why randomly go after a young woman performer? Thought he was such a nice guy.

Swift is 34. That's middle aged, in my country.

Dave Grohl lived next door to my husband. Went to school together. Dave's a cool guy.

middle age is 45-65

So we are living to 90 - 130 now?

Um, no.

It’s set by medical professionals.

https://www.britannica.com/science/middle-age

Hon just because the word middle is in the word doesn’t mean you double it.

FFS … 🤦‍♂️

You seem like an angry person who only “researches” the one source that supports their world view.

“FFS”

“Given the different views on when old age begins, it shouldn’t surprise you to learn that the exact range of middle age is not set in stone either. In general, our age range of “45 to 65” is around the age range generally used to say when middle age supposedly occurs. Polling shows that people may think middle age begins later or earlier depending on who you ask. Statistically speaking, the average life expectancy in the United States is 78.7 years old, which would mean middle age would mathematically begin in an American’s late 30s.”

https://www.dictionary.com/e/ageism-terms/

she's not in her late 30's so still not middle aged. FFS

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Anonymous wrote:Disappointed in Grohl. Why randomly go after a young woman performer? Thought he was such a nice guy.

Swift is 34. That's middle aged, in my country.

Dave Grohl lived next door to my husband. Went to school together. Dave's a cool guy.

middle age is 45-65

So we are living to 90 - 130 now?

Um, no.

It’s set by medical professionals.

https://www.britannica.com/science/middle-age

Hon just because the word middle is in the word doesn’t mean you double it.

FFS … 🤦‍♂️

You seem like an angry person who only “researches” the one source that supports their world view.

“FFS”

“Given the different views on when old age begins, it shouldn’t surprise you to learn that the exact range of middle age is not set in stone either. In general, our age range of “45 to 65” is around the age range generally used to say when middle age supposedly occurs. Polling shows that people may think middle age begins later or earlier depending on who you ask. Statistically speaking, the average life expectancy in the United States is 78.7 years old, which would mean middle age would mathematically begin in an American’s late 30s.”

https://www.dictionary.com/e/ageism-terms/

Nerd, nobody thinks middle age is mid 30s.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.

So a man has to offer his opinion about a woman in his industry for no reason (he doesn't work with her) and she's the mean girl?

Methinks a lot of men are threatened by women like Taylor Swift. Dave Grohl is a legend, but he didn't hold up our economy last summer.

OP - sorry not saying the mean girl comment is related to Dave Grohl. I think the mean girl comment is more about the the running commentary about how Taylor likes to push her music out when she knows other women are putting out their albums. Maybe its just coincidence however it seems too coincidental that every time another big woman artist comes out (for example Billie Eilish) Taylor decides to re-release some tracks/album.

Dp So when the Beatles, The Beach Boys and the Stones were putting out albums at the same time would you say the same thing? Oh Mick Jagger should be more sensitive to Brian Wilson and shouldn't put out any albums? How utterly ridiculous you are pp

Not the same.

Taylor purposely did something in Kim Al’s birthday to draw attention away from Kim K. I don’t care that TS was petty because Kim was awful to bully a teenager and call her a snake.

But Taylor does release individual tracks and “vault” songs that interfere with other releases and has been asked by her record label not to compete with other ladies on the label.

In the old days of The Rolling Stones, were they releasing as many individual tracks as TS does now? I’m not sure it was as common back then but correct me if I’m wrong.

Seems like TS is constantly releasing new songs. It’s to the point I can’t keep up with the firehouse but her mega fans do keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:Disappointed in Grohl. Why randomly go after a young woman performer? Thought he was such a nice guy.

Swift is 34. That's middle aged, in my country.

Dave Grohl lived next door to my husband. Went to school together. Dave's a cool guy.

middle age is 45-65

So we are living to 90 - 130 now?

Um, no.

It’s set by medical professionals.

https://www.britannica.com/science/middle-age

Hon just because the word middle is in the word doesn’t mean you double it.

FFS … 🤦‍♂️

You seem like an angry person who only “researches” the one source that supports their world view.

“FFS”

“Given the different views on when old age begins, it shouldn’t surprise you to learn that the exact range of middle age is not set in stone either. In general, our age range of “45 to 65” is around the age range generally used to say when middle age supposedly occurs. Polling shows that people may think middle age begins later or earlier depending on who you ask. Statistically speaking, the average life expectancy in the United States is 78.7 years old, which would mean middle age would mathematically begin in an American’s late 30s.”

https://www.dictionary.com/e/ageism-terms/

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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.

+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.

Nothing is ever her fault!

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Anonymous wrote:I also read that swifties went after his daughter for making a comment online about Taylor’s private plane

Did his daughter say something? Why should she get a pass? You don't make a public comment if you are unable to handle a pushback.

Does her Dad fly commercial?

I don't support the fans going after the daughter, but I do think it's BS that Taylor is the only famous person I ever hear getting called out for using a private jet.

FWIW, Leo gets called out for it all the time

And he should. He lectures US and then does the absolute worst things. Plus speaking about dating he dates only under 25 years old! What a creep!
https://climatefactchecks.org/a-leading-voice-in-the-battle-against-climate-change/

I feel dumber for having read this thread.

Grohl's comments were not some huge shot across the bow. He was making a joke *at his own expense* (calling his tour the "Errors Tour") but then also getting the audience at his show pumped for the rock and roll show they paid to come see. That's it. Yes he referenced Swift and you could read an insult into the whole "we play live" thing but someone as successful as Swift should not even register that. Who cares. He was talking to his audience and making a joke. Not giving an in-depth interview to Rolling Stone about his opinions on Taylor Swift.

That she "clapped back" by... complimenting and thanking her own band is not an escalation of anything. It's someone doing a very normal think on stage that happens all the time.

I think if you have conflicted feelings about any of this or are mad at anyone in this scenario it may be time to seek professional help. There's no there there.

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Anonymous wrote:I also read that swifties went after his daughter for making a comment online about Taylor’s private plane

Did his daughter say something? Why should she get a pass? You don't make a public comment if you are unable to handle a pushback.

Does her Dad fly commercial?

I don't support the fans going after the daughter, but I do think it's BS that Taylor is the only famous person I ever hear getting called out for using a private jet.

FWIW, Leo gets called out for it all the time

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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.

+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.

Maybe because she isn't a man? So tired of these expressions that are so dated and sexist "man enough" "grow a pair" Women are way stronger than men and yet we are seen as the 'weaker' sex.

Let's see if a man could do what we do and also be expected to 'smile' and act like we aren't in pain because that would make men uncomfortable!

I don't give two shits about Matty Healey.

She has a song called “The Man.” 🤷‍♀️

And while you don’t give two shits about Matty, he inspired half of her hits from the past decade, and she clearly gave a lot more than two shits, seeing how she was down so bad that couldn’t get out of bed.

Taylor still did the work and wrote it. Do you credit Patty Boyd for influencing both George Harrison and Eric Clapton? Or do you give the credit solely to the men who wrote their perspective songs? Funny how the man gets the credit even when he doesn't write the songs but, the women get zero credit when they are the inspiration?


https://people.com/music/pattie-boyd-reframes-rock-roll-life-muse-george-harrison-eric-clapton/
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/songs-george-harrison-wrote-pattie-boyd/
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/78851/layla-real-life-10-songs-written-about-pattie-boyd

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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.

+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.

No it’s because she caught him doing drugs.

You know nothing, Jon Snow.
Matty left her. Not the other way around. He doesn’t do hard drugs any more, and he and Taylor probably smoked pot together, or at the very least she knew about it. “You smoked, then ate 7 bars of chocolate.”

So he did when he dated Taylor? hmm interesting

Funny that any thread about Taylor becomes overrun with the Matty fan club.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.

+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.

No it’s because she caught him doing drugs.

You know nothing, Jon Snow.
Matty left her. Not the other way around. He doesn’t do hard drugs any more, and he and Taylor probably smoked pot together, or at the very least she knew about it. “You smoked, then ate 7 bars of chocolate.”

You tried to buy pills ….

It’s sad he can’t kick it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.

+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.

You guys just make stuff up. Here is what Taylor said when she released TTPD:
"An anthology of new works that reflect events, opinions and sentiments from a fleeting and fatalistic moment in time - one that was both sensational and sorrowful in equal measure. This period of the author’s life is now over, the chapter closed and boarded up. There is nothing to avenge, no scores to settle once wounds have healed. And upon further reflection, a good number of them turned out to be self-inflicted. This writer is of the firm belief that our tears become holy in the form of ink on a page. Once we have spoken our saddest story, we can be free of it. And then all that’s left behind is the tortured poetry."

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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.

+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.

No it’s because she caught him doing drugs.

You know nothing, Jon Snow.
Matty left her. Not the other way around. He doesn’t do hard drugs any more, and he and Taylor probably smoked pot together, or at the very least she knew about it. “You smoked, then ate 7 bars of chocolate.”