Anonymous wrote:Good to have someone speaking their mind rather than bow to woke orthodoxy.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/06/us-news/sen-john-fetterman-says-hes-not-a-progressive-that-label-left-me/

Everything he said in the article makes sense to me. He supports Israel, and he thinks lawmakers on both sides should seriously address the need for new immigration laws, which means dealing with the people crowded at the border trying to get into our country.

He's not saying "shut down the border" or "put kids in cages" He's saying that the US needs to find a better way to deal with all the people who are so desperate to come to the US. Quite simply, the laws need to reflect reality: We need workers, and immigrants fleeing from violence and poverty in their broken countries need jobs. Match them up, and everyone wins. But the GOP doesn't want to do that because then there'd be no "crisis at the border" and their Convicted Felon Candidate would have nothing to run on.

I agree with Fetterman that the US must support Israel. The anti-Israel/pro-Palestinian protests are a bit over the top, but I admire the passion of the movement. And of course Israel must end this war. The US has to insist on that. Enough is enough.

Fetterman is from a red state. He can't call himself a progressive. He's a Democrat, through and through. Not a conservative by any means, and certainly not a brain-damaged nut case member of the GOP.

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jsteele wrote:Dude suffers brain damage. Becomes a conservative. Adds up.

WOW. This is something. I think I’ve been in same personal IRL groups with you. I’ve always given you the benefit of the doubt but this is low. I’m very liberal, maybe progressive, and I like Letterman’s authenticity. I do time his stance on Israel but I also don’t like anti Zionism and antisemitism of the protesters.

Absolutely floored by your words, your cruelty and hatred of those who you don’t think are progressive enough. I’m sure you won’t even post this.

Heesus effing cryst!! Do youse get yokes?

It was very funny, Mr. Steele! And true! Republicans are brain-damaged. No other reason anyone would vote for Trump.

jsteele wrote:Dude suffers brain damage. Becomes a conservative. Adds up.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

And yet, you had no problem with hundreds of U.S. congressmen and women stupidly waving the Ukraine flag on the House floor.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/watch-democrats-admonished-for-cheering-waving-ukrainian-flags-after-aid-bill-passes/ar-AA1nmPJV

Who said anything about the aid bill photo op? I just saw that photo for the first time today. It’s disgusting. Next?

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

So what? Plenty of traitors were not from the countries they betrayed for.

Good grief.
Just come right out and say what you think of Jewish people. We know you are antisemitic. No need to hide it anymore.

“I’ll tell you what you REALLY think!”

Boring. Get some new material. You can’t stop others from speaking the truth of Israel’s malignancy any longer simply by accusing them of being anti-semitic.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

And yet, you had no problem with hundreds of U.S. congressmen and women stupidly waving the Ukraine flag on the House floor.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/watch-democrats-admonished-for-cheering-waving-ukrainian-flags-after-aid-bill-passes/ar-AA1nmPJV

DP saw you see no difference between supporting a state being invaded by the Russians vs 1600 lobbyists buying US congressman and senators to work against the interests of the US?

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

And yet, you had no problem with hundreds of U.S. congressmen and women stupidly waving the Ukraine flag on the House floor.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/watch-democrats-admonished-for-cheering-waving-ukrainian-flags-after-aid-bill-passes/ar-AA1nmPJV

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

So what? Plenty of traitors were not from the countries they betrayed for.

Good grief.
Just come right out and say what you think of Jewish people. We know you are antisemitic. No need to hide it anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:He was in a car accident today......

I’m sure Jeff is pleased. We now know what kind of person he is…

wow, says the person who engages in personal attack.

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jsteele wrote:Dude suffers brain damage. Becomes a conservative. Adds up.

Are you mad at AOC as well because she chooses to be a pragmatist and not a burn it all down progressive?

She is not crass like Fetterman.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

So what? Plenty of traitors were not from the countries they betrayed for.

Anonymous wrote:Can you imagine defending any other member of the U.S. Congress (or really, any federal employee) who climbs to the roof of their home to erratically wave the 5x7’ flag of a foreign state like his life depends on the act?

It’s bizarre that so many people just go along like zombies with the current insanity of foreign interference in U.S. politics, but only insofar as it’s just one country.

He is a bully, and a fool.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

Wait........no comment about this???????

Also disgusting ... just as disgusting.

DP. I don’t recall anyone declaring the ubiquitous Ukraine flags as disgusting, ever.

Probably because Ukraine doesn't kill kids and commit genocide like Israel does. Use some common sense.

Follow the thread plz. That wasn’t wasn’t that PP was asserting.

Yeah, except the PP immediately - immediately - characterized the waving of the Ukrainian flag in the exact same way that they characterized the wearing of U.S. / Israeli flags on the lapels of members of the U.S. congress, after which they were told that nobody did that. Other than the fact they had just done so. But nobody did that. Except they did. Ad nauseam.

Do you understand the difference between claiming something as “disgusting” in this thread when called out on hypocrisy vs at the time it happened?

Do you understand the difference between being omniscient and possessing the time machine necessary to prove whatever it is that you're failingly attempting to prove vs. just being some perennial victim schlub who thinks by telling people what they REALLY think that you ACTUALLY have the ability to establish what they REALLY think?