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Anonymous wrote:Talk to the workers in the parking lots. You will learn a lot.

We found the rural, older, smaller facilities are better and have a lot less turnover.

ASK ABOUT GLOVE CHANGE RULES. I had two caregivers tell me they had to wear the same gloves to care for multiple residents per the owners of the facilities. One caregiver worked at a facility near Towson with these rules and one worked at a facility near Ocean Pines with these rules.

This is outrageous and I hope that after a suitable delay to conceal the source you reported both facilities.

The one near Towson- I bet it was Manor Care Ruxton.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents were in memory care at Cadence in Olney and it was wonderful! It was a bit of a trip from Chevy Chase, but $9,000 a month for memory care, brand new, clean, well decorated, and the staff was AMAZING. I cannot recommend it highly enough!

That is very reasonable.

It's less than what I'm looking at for level 1 assisted living.

Anonymous wrote:Try Vinson Hall. They recently opened it up to non military members.

Really???? That is great.

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Anonymous wrote:The monthly rates are driven by, in this order:

Product type (IL vs AL vs memory care)
Location (nearby home values)
Interior finish level and amenities (newer, nicer is more expensive - gotta pay for the renovation) then
Wage rates (while they may vary location to location the reality is the range is of wages does not deviate that much within an MSA)

Negotiate the up front move in fee! It’s all profit. Usually the sales person gets a cut.

You're confusing profit and nonprofit centers

I am not

In a non profit rental community, that move in fee is considered positive operating margin. It likely subsidizes general operating losses from lower rents, higher wages, or both. Or perhaps it goes to unit turns to make it livable (new carpet, fresh paint, etc). I suppose this is semantics or point of view. What is NOT semantics is the ability to negotiate. It is definitely negotiable, and based on supply and demand. If the sales person already hit their numbers that month they won’t budge (why would they… they can wait for someone else to bite and no skin off their back?) If they are off their sales numbers or perhaps behind planned occupancy, they will definitely negotiate and perhaps waive it.

In a non-profit CCRC, there is no move in fee. It is a buy in fee with a certain negotiated portion that is refundable at some point in the future. But the sales person absolutely gets a cut of the non-refundable portion. Unless you are in some oddly regulated state. It may not be negotiable based on the non-profit status (generally religiously affiliated) but doesn’t hurt to ask / try.

In either case, much like car purchases, it helps your negotiating position to move in (or take financial possession) towards the end of the month.

Signed, 20 year veteran of the business

Anonymous wrote:Best accredited non-profited is Collington.

This is where my parents are, and they love it. Lots of activities, great campus for walking, near shopping, metro, amtrak.

Try Vinson Hall. They recently opened it up to non military members.