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Post 06/13/2024 16:32     Subject: Accelerated Math

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Anonymous wrote:So if I understand correctly for the middle school accelerated math track 6+, it covers all of common core grade 6 and half of grade 7. For the kids that do algebra in grade 7, when do they cover the other half of common core topics of grade 7?

The kids that do Algebra in grade 7 mostly started MS with AMP 7+ or are skipping at their own understanding of the risk.


I don't think that's true, at least not in all schools. My kids' guidance counselor told me that 1/3 of the kids were doing grade 7 algebra and the majority come from 6+.


They would be coming from 7+, taken either in 6th grade or 7th grade.
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Post 06/13/2024 16:23     Subject: Accelerated Math

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Anonymous wrote:So if I understand correctly for the middle school accelerated math track 6+, it covers all of common core grade 6 and half of grade 7. For the kids that do algebra in grade 7, when do they cover the other half of common core topics of grade 7?

The kids that do Algebra in grade 7 mostly started MS with AMP 7+ or are skipping at their own understanding of the risk.


I don't think that's true, at least not in all schools. My kids' guidance counselor told me that 1/3 of the kids were doing grade 7 algebra and the majority come from 6+.


Then they would fall into the group skipping 7+ at their own risk. Don’t know why they would do that or be advised to do, when the ES compact kids mostly take 7+/AIM for grade 6 before taking Algebra for Grade7. Meaning they have gotten the material for 6th/7th/8th before jumping into Alg 1. Sure Algebra over some of the prior preAlgebra concepts, but why wouldn’t you want to ensure the same foundation and opportunity as the other peers.
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Post 06/13/2024 11:46     Subject: Accelerated Math

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Anonymous wrote:Taking Algebra in 8th via the traditional math route is still considered advanced in other regions. Unless your child knows for sure that he wants to be a STEM major that heavily leans into math, then he will be fine. My DD got into compacted math, and while she’s not struggling, I want to pull back because she’s not at all interested in STEM. But I feel like now we’re stuck because she will have to repeat a year in math. She is going to take algebra in 7th next year so either we repeat pre algebra or algebra next year.


How are you stuck? If your didn't take prealgebra in 6th then you would have repeated the material anyway, just stretched across 2 years instead of 1. If the math is getting too hard, repeating is exactly what you should want to do.


She took pre algebra in 6th but if I don’t send her to algebra next year, she will have to repeat prealgebra. She did fine in it and had As and a high Map but she doesn’t want a career in STEM. Now she will have to repeat pre algebra or continue the accelerated path so hence we feel stuck. To OP, acceleration is not all that it’s cracked up to be and you might end up counting your blessings staying in the traditional math program down the road.


You are not stuck. She can take Alg1 >Geo>2yr Alg 2> Precal> Financial Math

Or some other combination. If she’s truly doing fine then it’s just a natural progression. If not, slow down. Repeat pre-Alg may give her the foundation she needs.


The problem with that is the way that slowdown looks to colleges, along with the boredom/cohort of 2yr Alg 2. Better to go Alg 2>Precalc>AP Calc AB>AP Calc BC or, if trying to show rigor while avoiding the second-level college courses like MVC, DiffEq & LA, Alg 2>Precalc>AP Calc BC>AP Stats. That can be tough in the Junior/Calc year, though, for a student who is not mathy. On the other hand, Stats is really valuable in many, many careers (not just STEM), and in life, in general.



Stats is always a great one. I took it in high school once, in college twice, and in mba once…. Nearly the same course each time.

Is MC/UMD the only place that offers MVC/DiffEq other than magnets for MCPS?


No. Check your local school bulletin.


DP. This is a problem. MCPS should be up-front with a grid listing of courses availaible at each school (generally, occasionally and specifically for the upcoming year). This would help those seeking access where a course is not available know that they need to advocate, early, often, loudly and in numbers with other families, for inclusion. MCPS schools like to say that they make courses avaialable based on community pull, but the reality is that they don't go asking very well and don't serve interests without a known sizeable cohort, which results in schools that already have such courses continuing to have such because of established awareness and schools that don't not bothering to provide them, despite there often being interest.


That would help...or just update the websites. half the links at my kid's soon-to-be school are marked as "coming soon" or out of date (like PPTs from 2019).
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Post 06/13/2024 11:40     Subject: Accelerated Math

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Anonymous wrote:Taking Algebra in 8th via the traditional math route is still considered advanced in other regions. Unless your child knows for sure that he wants to be a STEM major that heavily leans into math, then he will be fine. My DD got into compacted math, and while she’s not struggling, I want to pull back because she’s not at all interested in STEM. But I feel like now we’re stuck because she will have to repeat a year in math. She is going to take algebra in 7th next year so either we repeat pre algebra or algebra next year.


How are you stuck? If your didn't take prealgebra in 6th then you would have repeated the material anyway, just stretched across 2 years instead of 1. If the math is getting too hard, repeating is exactly what you should want to do.


She took pre algebra in 6th but if I don’t send her to algebra next year, she will have to repeat prealgebra. She did fine in it and had As and a high Map but she doesn’t want a career in STEM. Now she will have to repeat pre algebra or continue the accelerated path so hence we feel stuck. To OP, acceleration is not all that it’s cracked up to be and you might end up counting your blessings staying in the traditional math program down the road.


You are not stuck. She can take Alg1 >Geo>2yr Alg 2> Precal> Financial Math

Or some other combination. If she’s truly doing fine then it’s just a natural progression. If not, slow down. Repeat pre-Alg may give her the foundation she needs.


The problem with that is the way that slowdown looks to colleges, along with the boredom/cohort of 2yr Alg 2. Better to go Alg 2>Precalc>AP Calc AB>AP Calc BC or, if trying to show rigor while avoiding the second-level college courses like MVC, DiffEq & LA, Alg 2>Precalc>AP Calc BC>AP Stats. That can be tough in the Junior/Calc year, though, for a student who is not mathy. On the other hand, Stats is really valuable in many, many careers (not just STEM), and in life, in general.



Stats is always a great one. I took it in high school once, in college twice, and in mba once…. Nearly the same course each time.

Is MC/UMD the only place that offers MVC/DiffEq other than magnets for MCPS?


No. Check your local school bulletin.


DP. This is a problem. MCPS should be up-front with a grid listing of courses availaible at each school (generally, occasionally and specifically for the upcoming year). This would help those seeking access where a course is not available know that they need to advocate, early, often, loudly and in numbers with other families, for inclusion. MCPS schools like to say that they make courses avaialable based on community pull, but the reality is that they don't go asking very well and don't serve interests without a known sizeable cohort, which results in schools that already have such courses continuing to have such because of established awareness and schools that don't not bothering to provide them, despite there often being interest.