Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:40     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

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Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.


https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-california-los-angeles/

Now show us the schools that are so much better!!!


BHAHAHAHHA!! You're citing Niche?! Hahahahahah!!!!!!!


Cool! Show us the “real” rankings that count now! Niche is trash, so looking forward to seeing the treasure you bring forth to settle this!

Oh, wait - what’s that? The “real” rankings are the ones you see in this thread, comprised of parents whose kids were rejected by UCLA and some fugazi pre-med lecturer who claims that 1,200 student classes are commonplace?


Triggered much



So … nothing? You could have just said you were all show, no go and saved everyone the time.

😂


I'm sad that you're so sad. That everything on this thread about your beloved overrated and grossly overpopulated school is true.


California will survive - promise!

😂
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:39     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.


https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-california-los-angeles/

Now show us the schools that are so much better!!!


BHAHAHAHHA!! You're citing Niche?! Hahahahahah!!!!!!!


Cool! Show us the “real” rankings that count now! Niche is trash, so looking forward to seeing the treasure you bring forth to settle this!

Oh, wait - what’s that? The “real” rankings are the ones you see in this thread, comprised of parents whose kids were rejected by UCLA and some fugazi pre-med lecturer who claims that 1,200 student classes are commonplace?


Triggered much



So … nothing? You could have just said you were all show, no go and saved everyone the time.

😂


I'm sad that you're so sad. That everything on this thread about your beloved overrated and grossly overpopulated school is true.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:37     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.


https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-california-los-angeles/

Now show us the schools that are so much better!!!


BHAHAHAHHA!! You're citing Niche?! Hahahahahah!!!!!!!


Cool! Show us the “real” rankings that count now! Niche is trash, so looking forward to seeing the treasure you bring forth to settle this!

Oh, wait - what’s that? The “real” rankings are the ones you see in this thread, comprised of parents whose kids were rejected by UCLA and some fugazi pre-med lecturer who claims that 1,200 student classes are commonplace?


Just curious what you are claiming is not true. Which of the following do you dispute

--UCLA regularly puts three freshmen and/or sophomores in dorm rooms built as doubles

-- There is an even greater housing shortage at the other UCs

-- The list of impacted majors at most UCs include popular majors like computer science, engineering, psychology. . . .

--It is very difficult to transfer into an impacted major

--There are some classes in certain majors with other 1000 students enrolled, at least at Berkeley

--It can be difficult to register for required classes


What about incoming freshman with 50+ units already banked via AP testing and matriculating into a major that’s not impacted? Do they have a chance of graduating in less than six years?
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:35     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.


https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-california-los-angeles/

Now show us the schools that are so much better!!!


BHAHAHAHHA!! You're citing Niche?! Hahahahahah!!!!!!!


Cool! Show us the “real” rankings that count now! Niche is trash, so looking forward to seeing the treasure you bring forth to settle this!

Oh, wait - what’s that? The “real” rankings are the ones you see in this thread, comprised of parents whose kids were rejected by UCLA and some fugazi pre-med lecturer who claims that 1,200 student classes are commonplace?


Triggered much



So … nothing? You could have just said you were all show, no go and saved everyone the time.

😂
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:35     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.


https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-california-los-angeles/

Now show us the schools that are so much better!!!


BHAHAHAHHA!! You're citing Niche?! Hahahahahah!!!!!!!


Cool! Show us the “real” rankings that count now! Niche is trash, so looking forward to seeing the treasure you bring forth to settle this!

Oh, wait - what’s that? The “real” rankings are the ones you see in this thread, comprised of parents whose kids were rejected by UCLA and some fugazi pre-med lecturer who claims that 1,200 student classes are commonplace?


Just curious what you are claiming is not true. Which of the following do you dispute

--UCLA regularly puts three freshmen and/or sophomores in dorm rooms built as doubles

-- There is an even greater housing shortage at the other UCs

-- The list of impacted majors at most UCs include popular majors like computer science, engineering, psychology. . . .

--It is very difficult to transfer into an impacted major

--There are some classes in certain majors with other 1000 students enrolled, at least at Berkeley

--It can be difficult to register for required classes
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:33     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.


There are complaints about many schools on these boards. Some kids seem to enjoy and thrive in large settings and others in smaill. There are pages of issues listed about LAC, Cornell, Georgetown etc. If you don't want to send your kids to OOS schools that is fine but no need to bring down schools which are world class research institutions and seem tp be working just fine and getting more than 125k applications.


Please, with the 125k applications. UCLA and Cal are the best instate options price-wise for a high-population state. The tallest midget is still a midget. Where do you think those applications would go if Stanford, CalTech and Pomona were 75% off?




Stanford and CT take less than 2,000 freshman each year - combined. Pomona isn’t a good fit for well-rounded kids, and isn’t in the same academics universe as Stanford and CT anyway.

So that leaves UCLA and Berkeley and USC for the tallest midgets, I guess.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:32     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …

My experience as a grad student there was that UCLA undergrads had absolutely bought into the fancy marketing that UCLA is world class with the best weather and in the best location in the world. They assumed it was a great school because it was so hard to get into. They all assumed that impossible registration for courses, absolutely no advising, lack of faculty interest in teaching, rampant cost cutting, and the racially segregated student body was standard at all universities and didn't question it. All of the grad students from outside the UC system were appalled at the terrible undergrad instruction and lack of advising.

My take after 5 years teaching undergrads there was that the student body was very bright so UCLA was able to coast by with a terrible quality of undergrad instruction, but excellent sports, weather and location.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:30     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.


https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-california-los-angeles/

Now show us the schools that are so much better!!!


BHAHAHAHHA!! You're citing Niche?! Hahahahahah!!!!!!!


Cool! Show us the “real” rankings that count now! Niche is trash, so looking forward to seeing the treasure you bring forth to settle this!

Oh, wait - what’s that? The “real” rankings are the ones you see in this thread, comprised of parents whose kids were rejected by UCLA and some fugazi pre-med lecturer who claims that 1,200 student classes are commonplace?


Triggered much

Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:27     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.


https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-california-los-angeles/

Now show us the schools that are so much better!!!


BHAHAHAHHA!! You're citing Niche?! Hahahahahah!!!!!!!


Cool! Show us the “real” rankings that count now! Niche is trash, so looking forward to seeing the treasure you bring forth to settle this!

Oh, wait - what’s that? The “real” rankings are the ones you see in this thread, comprised of parents whose kids were rejected by UCLA and some fugazi pre-med lecturer who claims that 1,200 student classes are commonplace?
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:27     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.


There are complaints about many schools on these boards. Some kids seem to enjoy and thrive in large settings and others in smaill. There are pages of issues listed about LAC, Cornell, Georgetown etc. If you don't want to send your kids to OOS schools that is fine but no need to bring down schools which are world class research institutions and seem tp be working just fine and getting more than 125k applications.


Please, with the 125k applications. UCLA and Cal are the best instate options price-wise for a high-population state. The tallest midget is still a midget. Where do you think those applications would go if Stanford, CalTech and Pomona were 75% off?


Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:24     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Many kids love it. And, some have rich parents who can afford to support a nice and nearby apartment So-Sr years. But it does take a certain kind of kid to what to jump through all these hoops (for registration) and be in huge classes. My DC has friends there and was on the fence late in the game and is now glad they didn't end up attending. (But I am sure would have loved it despite the hassles if they had attended)
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:21     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley


They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.



Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.


Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …


Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.


There are complaints about many schools on these boards. Some kids seem to enjoy and thrive in large settings and others in smaill. There are pages of issues listed about LAC, Cornell, Georgetown etc. If you don't want to send your kids to OOS schools that is fine but no need to bring down schools which are world class research institutions and seem tp be working just fine and getting more than 125k applications.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:20     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

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Anonymous wrote:I’m struggling to believe some of the antidotal stories.

DC is an incoming freshmen student at UMich. Registration began this week. DC registered yesterday. He had no problem registering for the classes he wanted. CoE if that matters.


Story about freshmen dorms at UCLA is true. DC is a student there and was placed with 2 others in a double. So 3 in one room.


Agreed - UCLA stories are legit. As are Berkeley. UC system is in high demand (in-state and out...) and they want the $$ and the the result is 100% over crowded dorms (if even available....Berkeley, UCSD) and difficult registration for high-demand degrees.


You mean they NEED the $$. Especially from OOS. The system is practically bankrupt.
There are schools of equal and higher prestige and the high demand CS or Engineering classes Do Not have UC's problem.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:20     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At UCLA triples are standard, but they guarantee housing for all 4 years, which is vital for students who need it.

It is also hard to get classes, particularly prerequisites, so if a student needs things straightforward this environment would be difficult. You’ve got to plan, hustle, and be ready to pivot as needed. Register for more classes than you need and drop one once you get the feel for the work. Can’t get into a class? Start going anyways and wait for an opening or ask the professor to approve your seat. Successful student need to be savvy and resourceful, and plenty of them graduate in 4 years (maybe snagging some of those hard prerequisites at CC over the summer). There is no handholding.

The one thing that pisses me off is the underground market for classes. Students register for classes they don’t need and then sell the seat. I wish the school would crack down on that.


How is this even possible? The registered student doesn't have any control over who gets to "fill their seat" when they dis-enroll.


Exactly. Unless UC's reg system is a relic from the 90s which is the only way it could be possible and that's just sad.


I still don't see how it is possible. It wouldn't have been possible when I was in college.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2024 14:18     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m struggling to believe some of the antidotal stories.

DC is an incoming freshmen student at UMich. Registration began this week. DC registered yesterday. He had no problem registering for the classes he wanted. CoE if that matters.


Story about freshmen dorms at UCLA is true. DC is a student there and was placed with 2 others in a double. So 3 in one room.


Agreed - UCLA stories are legit. As are Berkeley. UC system is in high demand (in-state and out...) and they want the $$ and the the result is 100% over crowded dorms (if even available....Berkeley, UCSD) and difficult registration for high-demand degrees.