Anonymous
06/08/2024 00:28
Subject: if me DD’s odds
Anonymous wrote:DD applying ED to non-HYP Ivy. I’d classify her as “average excellent” with an artsy/interesting streak. Top line info:
-Double legacy
-4.1 uw at good public in Northeast
-10 APs by end of senior year (others all honors)
-Most likely NMSF
-34 ACT (took 2X, doesn’t want to take again)
-Junior Book Award (from the school she’s applying to but obv that has nothing to do w them)
-Scholastic Gold Key in Art
-Award for best in drawing in our state
-Painting award, 1st place (county level)
-Ntnl Art Honor Society pres
-School musical and plays all four years (no leads)
-Newspaper (staff writer, 4 years; social media editor, 3 years; layout editor, 2 years)
-School of Rock (guitar and vocals, 2 years)
-Key Club (4 years) with varied projects - she genuinely enjoys volunteering
-Schoolhouse SAT tutor
-Ambassador for creative writing and literature summer program
Reading about the nonprofit founders and scientific research kids, I feel like mine has no shot. Any input?
She should apply to a mix of schools along with the Ivy and see what happens.
She’ll be a great applicant, but not one who helps with any kind of diversity, has a national award or seems like an obvious subject of a newspaper feature article. And the admissions will see that she has other options. They don’t have to admit her to save her.
Maybe she’ll have about a 15 percent chance of getting in at the Ivy. So, there aren’t any guarantees, but she’ll be a good applicant who has a much better than average chance of getting in. She just needs to have some other pots on the fire.
Anonymous
06/07/2024 20:52
Subject: if me DD’s odds
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here. If she wants to go there, give it a shot despite what anyone here says. The reality is that we don't know what exactly schools are looking for in any given year.
This past year mine had a 3.98uw, same number of APs, no hooks, not a legacy, I think a 5 on one AP, a couple of 4s and a 1 on AP Physics, which made us all laugh because they killed it in that class. No research, non-profit, published work, awards or competitions. Not much of an athlete. Got into two Ivies in RD. It can happen. She should be sure of her recommenders and write a kick-ass essay, including a compelling response to the "Why School XYZ" prompt.
What test score? From public or private?
1480, public (mandatory AP curriculum magnet; not in DMV). I think their work experience, languages, ECs were compelling, and a good match for the majors they chose at each school. That said, we didn't have high hopes of them getting in -- it was more like "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."
Anonymous
06/07/2024 18:14
Subject: Re:if me DD’s odds
OP: You would receive better advice and suggestions if you named the particular Ivy league school. We know it is not Harvard, Yale, Penn, Princeton, or Columbia--which leaves Brown, Dartmouth, & Cornell. Brown seems like a good fit since she likes Wesleyan. Maybe Vassar, Oberlin,& William & Mary would also be of interest to her.
Anonymous
06/07/2024 14:31
Subject: if me DD’s odds
I think that profile she has a decent shot at Cornell if that is where she is legacy and MIGHT have a slight shot at Dartmouth. She is really strong, but not exceptional, and does not really stand out from the 10,000 other girls just like her aside from the double legacy. Another compounding factor is coming from a strong, competitive public in the Northeast -- do you have any idea of class rank?
15 years ago I would think she would get into Cornell or Dartmouth with those stats + legacy. You might consider applying for one of the easier admit college ED at Cornell if the desire really is just to go ivy.
15 years ago I would think she would get into Cornell or Dartmouth with those stats + legacy. You might consider applying for one of the easier admit college ED at Cornell if the desire really is just to go ivy.