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Anonymous wrote:It's stupid to burn public trust for arbitrary guidelines that have no basis in science. It was stupid to shut down a reasonable theory when all we had were theories anyway.

All this destroyed trust in institutions and frayed the public cohesion.

Please explain how speculating on the origins of the virus helped Americans in spring of 2020.
Did if affect developing treatments?
Did it help us getting a handle on testing and tracing?

China accidentally drops a nuke on a US city killing 1,000,000 Americans. Please tell me why knowing the origin of whom accidentally dropped the nuke matters and why it'd be of any relevance during the aftermath of the destruction?


Your logic is truly absurd. At a minimum, if China conducted high risk research with way to lax oversight (e.g..doing this kind of research on a BSL2 lab), there are many actions the world can take. For example, maybe scientific journals should blacklist all Chinese research going forward from publication. Perhaps sanctions can be put into place on all scientific equipment and supplies manufactured from other countries that are trying to be sold in China. There SHOULD be consequences for gross negligence that leads to 25,000,000 deaths.

The craziest part is that this isn't even the first time a virus has leaked from a state run virology lab in China. The original SARS virus also escaped one of their labs a long time ago and infected people. How many millions of deaths and trillions of dollars in blown up economies should the world tolerate until it concludes that China cannot be trusted with things like risky viral research?

I agree with some of your points but until America pays its debts to China, we are not in the position to do much about it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's stupid to burn public trust for arbitrary guidelines that have no basis in science. It was stupid to shut down a reasonable theory when all we had were theories anyway.

All this destroyed trust in institutions and frayed the public cohesion.

Please explain how speculating on the origins of the virus helped Americans in spring of 2020.
Did if affect developing treatments?
Did it help us getting a handle on testing and tracing?

China accidentally drops a nuke on a US city killing 1,000,000 Americans. Please tell me why knowing the origin of whom accidentally dropped the nuke matters and why it'd be of any relevance during the aftermath of the destruction?


Your logic is truly absurd. At a minimum, if China conducted high risk research with way to lax oversight (e.g..doing this kind of research on a BSL2 lab), there are many actions the world can take. For example, maybe scientific journals should blacklist all Chinese research going forward from publication. Perhaps sanctions can be put into place on all scientific equipment and supplies manufactured from other countries that are trying to be sold in China. There SHOULD be consequences for gross negligence that leads to 25,000,000 deaths.

The craziest part is that this isn't even the first time a virus has leaked from a state run virology lab in China. The original SARS virus also escaped one of their labs a long time ago and infected people. How many millions of deaths and trillions of dollars in blown up economies should the world tolerate until it concludes that China cannot be trusted with things like risky viral research?

Because it didn't just affect the U.S., moron. Millions of Chinese people were killed too so your analogy doesn't hold. A better analogy would be China intentionally setting off nukes in China and allowing the nuclear radiation to float over the U.S.

If it was lax oversight, then let's tighten it procedures so this doesn't happen again. Let's also prefund research into vaccines from the next most likely viruses to jump to humans as well as the manufacturing capacity to scale these things up. And Democrats pushed back on the initial story because of the myriad of lies and conspiracy theories surrounding COVID and the Trump administration. He had no credibility because of this and also because he was pushing scapegoating Asian people as well as "blue cities" instead of dealing with the fallout. If Trump had been consistently honest and truthful, I think the reaction would've been much different. Oh, and if he had just let the experts do their job, he'd probably still be President.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's stupid to burn public trust for arbitrary guidelines that have no basis in science. It was stupid to shut down a reasonable theory when all we had were theories anyway.

All this destroyed trust in institutions and frayed the public cohesion.

Please explain how speculating on the origins of the virus helped Americans in spring of 2020.
Did if affect developing treatments?
Did it help us getting a handle on testing and tracing?

China accidentally drops a nuke on a US city killing 1,000,000 Americans. Please tell me why knowing the origin of whom accidentally dropped the nuke matters and why it'd be of any relevance during the aftermath of the destruction?


Your logic is truly absurd. At a minimum, if China conducted high risk research with way to lax oversight (e.g..doing this kind of research on a BSL2 lab), there are many actions the world can take. For example, maybe scientific journals should blacklist all Chinese research going forward from publication. Perhaps sanctions can be put into place on all scientific equipment and supplies manufactured from other countries that are trying to be sold in China. There SHOULD be consequences for gross negligence that leads to 25,000,000 deaths.

The craziest part is that this isn't even the first time a virus has leaked from a state run virology lab in China. The original SARS virus also escaped one of their labs a long time ago and infected people. How many millions of deaths and trillions of dollars in blown up economies should the world tolerate until it concludes that China cannot be trusted with things like risky viral research?

Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal but never said that. I said who cares if it’s from a lab or a wet market? Neither can make me think any less of China. There’s a million reasons to reprimand China. Uyghurs? Child labor? Forced labor? IP theft? The list is soooooo long! I guess we overlook everything because pandas.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's stupid to burn public trust for arbitrary guidelines that have no basis in science. It was stupid to shut down a reasonable theory when all we had were theories anyway.

All this destroyed trust in institutions and frayed the public cohesion.

Please explain how speculating on the origins of the virus helped Americans in spring of 2020.
Did if affect developing treatments?
Did it help us getting a handle on testing and tracing?

China accidentally drops a nuke on a US city killing 1,000,000 Americans. Please tell me why knowing the origin of whom accidentally dropped the nuke matters and why it'd be of any relevance during the aftermath of the destruction?


Your logic is truly absurd. At a minimum, if China conducted high risk research with way to lax oversight (e.g..doing this kind of research on a BSL2 lab), there are many actions the world can take. For example, maybe scientific journals should blacklist all Chinese research going forward from publication. Perhaps sanctions can be put into place on all scientific equipment and supplies manufactured from other countries that are trying to be sold in China. There SHOULD be consequences for gross negligence that leads to 25,000,000 deaths.

The craziest part is that this isn't even the first time a virus has leaked from a state run virology lab in China. The original SARS virus also escaped one of their labs a long time ago and infected people. How many millions of deaths and trillions of dollars in blown up economies should the world tolerate until it concludes that China cannot be trusted with things like risky viral research?

None of what you write matters in 2020. China didn’t drop a nuke. China is still conducting sketchy research right now.

China gonna China.

All we can do is make sure we are prepared for everything, instead of running around and trying to pin blame on others.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's stupid to burn public trust for arbitrary guidelines that have no basis in science. It was stupid to shut down a reasonable theory when all we had were theories anyway.

All this destroyed trust in institutions and frayed the public cohesion.

Please explain how speculating on the origins of the virus helped Americans in spring of 2020.
Did if affect developing treatments?
Did it help us getting a handle on testing and tracing?

China accidentally drops a nuke on a US city killing 1,000,000 Americans. Please tell me why knowing the origin of whom accidentally dropped the nuke matters and why it'd be of any relevance during the aftermath of the destruction?


Your logic is truly absurd. At a minimum, if China conducted high risk research with way to lax oversight (e.g..doing this kind of research on a BSL2 lab), there are many actions the world can take. For example, maybe scientific journals should blacklist all Chinese research going forward from publication. Perhaps sanctions can be put into place on all scientific equipment and supplies manufactured from other countries that are trying to be sold in China. There SHOULD be consequences for gross negligence that leads to 25,000,000 deaths.

The craziest part is that this isn't even the first time a virus has leaked from a state run virology lab in China. The original SARS virus also escaped one of their labs a long time ago and infected people. How many millions of deaths and trillions of dollars in blown up economies should the world tolerate until it concludes that China cannot be trusted with things like risky viral research?

Anonymous wrote:It absolutely matters how it arrived and it’s just gaslighting by liberals to suggest otherwise.

Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal but never said that. I said who cares if it’s from a lab or a wet market? Neither can make me think any less of China. There’s a million reasons to reprimand China. Uyghurs? Child labor? Forced labor? IP theft? The list is soooooo long! I guess we overlook everything because pandas.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's stupid to burn public trust for arbitrary guidelines that have no basis in science. It was stupid to shut down a reasonable theory when all we had were theories anyway.

All this destroyed trust in institutions and frayed the public cohesion.

Please explain how speculating on the origins of the virus helped Americans in spring of 2020.
Did if affect developing treatments?
Did it help us getting a handle on testing and tracing?

China accidentally drops a nuke on a US city killing 1,000,000 Americans. Please tell me why knowing the origin of whom accidentally dropped the nuke matters and why it'd be of any relevance during the aftermath of the destruction?


Your logic is truly absurd. At a minimum, if China conducted high risk research with way to lax oversight (e.g..doing this kind of research on a BSL2 lab), there are many actions the world can take. For example, maybe scientific journals should blacklist all Chinese research going forward from publication. Perhaps sanctions can be put into place on all scientific equipment and supplies manufactured from other countries that are trying to be sold in China. There SHOULD be consequences for gross negligence that leads to 25,000,000 deaths.

The craziest part is that this isn't even the first time a virus has leaked from a state run virology lab in China. The original SARS virus also escaped one of their labs a long time ago and infected people. How many millions of deaths and trillions of dollars in blown up economies should the world tolerate until it concludes that China cannot be trusted with things like risky viral research?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's stupid to burn public trust for arbitrary guidelines that have no basis in science. It was stupid to shut down a reasonable theory when all we had were theories anyway.

All this destroyed trust in institutions and frayed the public cohesion.

Please explain how speculating on the origins of the virus helped Americans in spring of 2020.
Did if affect developing treatments?
Did it help us getting a handle on testing and tracing?

China accidentally drops a nuke on a US city killing 1,000,000 Americans. Please tell me why knowing the origin of whom accidentally dropped the nuke matters and why it'd be of any relevance during the aftermath of the destruction?


Your logic is truly absurd. At a minimum, if China conducted high risk research with way to lax oversight (e.g..doing this kind of research on a BSL2 lab), there are many actions the world can take. For example, maybe scientific journals should blacklist all Chinese research going forward from publication. Perhaps sanctions can be put into place on all scientific equipment and supplies manufactured from other countries that are trying to be sold in China. There SHOULD be consequences for gross negligence that leads to 25,000,000 deaths.

The craziest part is that this isn't even the first time a virus has leaked from a state run virology lab in China. The original SARS virus also escaped one of their labs a long time ago and infected people. How many millions of deaths and trillions of dollars in blown up economies should the world tolerate until it concludes that China cannot be trusted with things like risky viral research?

Anonymous wrote:NP... Weird that the MAGAs are shrieking about "lab leak" when they said COVID was a hoax to begin with and was no worse than an ordinary cold or flu.

Make up your minds. Are you now admitting you were lying when you called it a hoax and when you said it was no worse than an ordinary cold or flu?

Or do you still believe COVID was a hoax or no big deal? And if you still believe it was no big deal then what does it matter where it came from?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's stupid to burn public trust for arbitrary guidelines that have no basis in science. It was stupid to shut down a reasonable theory when all we had were theories anyway.

All this destroyed trust in institutions and frayed the public cohesion.

Please explain how speculating on the origins of the virus helped Americans in spring of 2020.
Did if affect developing treatments?
Did it help us getting a handle on testing and tracing?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It absolutely matters how it arrived and it’s just gaslighting by liberals to suggest otherwise.

What’s the gaslighting? People predicting “lab leak China virus!!!” in 2020 were throwing sh#t at the wall like monkeys, based on no hard evidence.

It’s wild that idiots like you haven’t fallen victim to Darwinism. To quote Colbert: “Oh, my God, there’s been an outbreak of chocolaty goodness near Hershey, Pa. What do you think happened?’ “‘Oh I don’t know, maybe a steam shovel mated with a cocoa bean?’ Or maybe it’s the f***** chocolate factory!”