Anonymous
06/04/2024 12:55
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
You’re a lunatic. There is absolutely no excuse for what he did. You probably abuse your kids too based off your idea of acceptable behavior for an adult toward a child. I seriously hope you don’t have contact with children in your job.Anonymous wrote:I don’t think he was stomping in anger. I think he was showing the child that stomping isn’t a good idea. I might assume the child stomped on another kid’s foot. Just speculation!
Anonymous
06/04/2024 11:57
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s also think about how awful parents are these days. The parent may have been out for him because the child has behavioral problems and the parent doesn’t want to admit it. Parents are so entitled in this area. And I can say this because I live here!
Interesting to read this thread and see teachers swooping in to defend this criminal. And now blaming parents and saying how awful they are. My kids are grown now and did not attend MCPS for this very reason. Teachers at MCPS tend to be very entitled most likely due to their union association. The us and them mentality is so bureaucratic and typical of pubic school teachers. This post is the perfect illustration of teachers acting entitled!
And if your kids didn’t attend MCPS, you don’t know anything about teachers and their behavior.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 11:55
Subject: Re:MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
A teacher did not post that haha. Innocent until proven guilty. Can’t really call him a criminal.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 11:37
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Anonymous wrote:Let’s also think about how awful parents are these days. The parent may have been out for him because the child has behavioral problems and the parent doesn’t want to admit it. Parents are so entitled in this area. And I can say this because I live here!
Interesting to read this thread and see teachers swooping in to defend this criminal. And now blaming parents and saying how awful they are. My kids are grown now and did not attend MCPS for this very reason. Teachers at MCPS tend to be very entitled most likely due to their union association. The us and them mentality is so bureaucratic and typical of pubic school teachers. This post is the perfect illustration of teachers acting entitled!
Anonymous
06/04/2024 11:07
Subject: Re:MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
The RPES principal position is now posted on Careers.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 11:03
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think he was stomping in anger. I think he was showing the child that stomping isn’t a good idea. I might assume the child stomped on another kid’s foot. Just speculation!
I will show you that stomping on people isn't a good idea by stomping on you?
No. I would assume he didn’t actually stomp on him. Camera angle has been reported as inconclusive.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 10:27
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think he was stomping in anger. I think he was showing the child that stomping isn’t a good idea. I might assume the child stomped on another kid’s foot. Just speculation!
I will show you that stomping on people isn't a good idea by stomping on you?
Anonymous
06/04/2024 10:19
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Were police not aware until later that video evidence was available? Wondering why it took so long to charge.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 10:15
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This guy has been a principal at many schools for many years. He’s not dumb or malicious enough to purposely stomp on a kid’s foot in a crowded cafeteria with cameras. The camera angle was probably weird and the child cried out of fear.
I thought this also. I know him and he isn't this stupid. Does he yell? Yes, I have heard it. But I have a difficult time believing he would intentionally hurt a student, especially in a room with a camera and where there were a lot of other students around. It just doesn't make sense.
Why is it so hard to believe that someone with a temper would escalate to stomping?
I get the complaints that kids are non-compliant and parents are clueless, but that doesn’t excuse stomping on a kid’s foot!
If the kid just listened to the principal, he wouldn’t have had to assault the kid?!? Seriously?
Anonymous
06/04/2024 10:12
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think he was stomping in anger. I think he was showing the child that stomping isn’t a good idea. I might assume the child stomped on another kid’s foot. Just speculation!
He has a horrible temper. My child is no longer in the school, but when he was, he was terrified of Mr. Winter after Mr. Winter threw a temper tantrum and threatened collective punishment against a wide group because he could not figure out who the actual person was That had caused a problem
Anonymous
06/04/2024 10:08
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
I don’t think he was stomping in anger. I think he was showing the child that stomping isn’t a good idea. I might assume the child stomped on another kid’s foot. Just speculation!
Anonymous
06/04/2024 09:54
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You are either obtuse or an abuser apologist. Either way, go away.Anonymous wrote:
I am neither. Do you know him or have you worked with him personally? If so, what gives you the right to think you speak for all of us? You don't. Maybe it was an accident, maybe it wasn't. Neither of us were there. I do know that calling the police for stepping on someone's foot is extreme. When was the last time you called the police for that? I'll wait.
The AP called the police because her husband is the school resource officer for the school. She should have followed protocol and reported it to CPS instead of calling her husband.
Exactly this. It's not MCPS protocol to immediately call the police for something like this. This sounds like it was a personal vendetta against him. She needs to be investigated as well.
He is not the school resource officer for the school.
Yes he is. He covers the Richard Montgomery cluster
https://thermtide.com/16732/news/mcps-returns-police-to-schools/
Actually, I believe it is MCPS policy to report any witnessed crimes to the police. There is also an obligation to report suspected or witnessed abuse to CPS. Note the difference between suspected and witnessed. What a crime is witnessed, there is almost certainly universal requirement for the personnel to report it to the police. This is why MCPS Policy requires calling the police when there are weapons or drugs. In other words, crimes must be reported to the police.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 09:44
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This guy has been a principal at many schools for many years. He’s not dumb or malicious enough to purposely stomp on a kid’s foot in a crowded cafeteria with cameras. The camera angle was probably weird and the child cried out of fear.
I haven't seen the video (neither have any of us on here). I suppose it's possible that the stomping was an accident. If the child was sitting (which they were), with their legs and feet out, and Winter was standing very close to the child, it's possible that he himself was throwing a tantrum while being angry, and stomped his foot, accidentally making contact with the child's foot. I could see him stomping his foot as he yells. I know he yells a lot - my kid had him at Barnsley.
So, in that case, there's no intent, but, it still seems ridiculous for Winter to be stomping his foot in anger, like a petulant child.
At best, he will be fired, with a misdemeanor charge. At worst, a felony second degree assault charge.
There is no such thing in Maryland as a "felony second degree assault charge." Second degree assault is a misdemeanor, albeit one that carries potentially ten years in jail. Slapping someone and beating them quite badly can both be the misdemeanor of second degree assault. Unless he stomped the foot badly enough that it was permanently impaired or lost (which seems exceedingly unlikely), there's no possible felony assault here.
I could also imagine potential charges of child abuse or endangering a child here as well
Anonymous
06/04/2024 09:35
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This guy has been a principal at many schools for many years. He’s not dumb or malicious enough to purposely stomp on a kid’s foot in a crowded cafeteria with cameras. The camera angle was probably weird and the child cried out of fear.
I haven't seen the video (neither have any of us on here). I suppose it's possible that the stomping was an accident. If the child was sitting (which they were), with their legs and feet out, and Winter was standing very close to the child, it's possible that he himself was throwing a tantrum while being angry, and stomped his foot, accidentally making contact with the child's foot. I could see him stomping his foot as he yells. I know he yells a lot - my kid had him at Barnsley.
So, in that case, there's no intent, but, it still seems ridiculous for Winter to be stomping his foot in anger, like a petulant child.
At best, he will be fired, with a misdemeanor charge. At worst, a felony second degree assault charge.
There is no such thing in Maryland as a "felony second degree assault charge." Second degree assault is a misdemeanor, albeit one that carries potentially ten years in jail. Slapping someone and beating them quite badly can both be the misdemeanor of second degree assault. Unless he stomped the foot badly enough that it was permanently impaired or lost (which seems exceedingly unlikely), there's no possible felony assault here.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 09:31
Subject: MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park
Anonymous wrote:This guy has been a principal at many schools for many years. He’s not dumb or malicious enough to purposely stomp on a kid’s foot in a crowded cafeteria with cameras. The camera angle was probably weird and the child cried out of fear.
I thought this also. I know him and he isn't this stupid. Does he yell? Yes, I have heard it. But I have a difficult time believing he would intentionally hurt a student, especially in a room with a camera and where there were a lot of other students around. It just doesn't make sense.