Anonymous
06/25/2024 15:48
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:stuy parent here.
https://stuy-talos-bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/media/documents/Matriculation_List__1.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAQXHMI6URNQ5MHS44&Signature=T6jAXVDhyY9v99mKzAO6dXt0AZc%3D&Expires=1719347269
this is from the portal. I'm not sure if you need to sign in (which you couldn't) ,but hopefully you can see it.
two things: racism in admissions is super real. "just another stuy robot" etc etc. it's bullshit. white kids like mine have an easier time.
and: I think it may be hard for DCUM to understand the poverty. many of these kids and their families really struggle. sending a kid far away is not everyone's first choice, esp when the kid is a cultural support.
for example, I dont know that I've ever seen the words "Sophie Davis" here on DCUM, but admissions into Sophie Davis garners far more oohs and ahhs than Harvard. Ditto Macaulay Honors.
also, it's a big class and a big world and stuy reflects it all .. which is awesome. I really love Stuy (and Tech and Bronx Sci etc) and think there are few institutions that catapult kids from poverty to professional class like these schools. my accountant is a stuy grad. my OB is one. the woman who did my will is one. etc etc. All of them landed in the public school system as new arrivals like so many kids are right now. The system isn't perfect, but these schools are jewels.
Most state's magnet schools are the same. It's just VA and SF with these massive magnet schools that aren't filled with poor people.
Seriously. Went to a very high-ranked magnet school that isn't a household names (Aka isn't on the coasts), and most of the students were Hispanic. Admissions was through testing, but only the best in your region of the district are allowed, so it was very diverse. Was disappointing seeing the issues at TJ and the mess that has become. People forget magnet schools started as desegregation orders and are supposed to be diverse learning environments, not just larger prep schools.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 15:43
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:stuy parent here.
https://stuy-talos-bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/media/documents/Matriculation_List__1.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAQXHMI6URNQ5MHS44&Signature=T6jAXVDhyY9v99mKzAO6dXt0AZc%3D&Expires=1719347269
this is from the portal. I'm not sure if you need to sign in (which you couldn't) ,but hopefully you can see it.
two things: racism in admissions is super real. "just another stuy robot" etc etc. it's bullshit. white kids like mine have an easier time.
and: I think it may be hard for DCUM to understand the poverty. many of these kids and their families really struggle. sending a kid far away is not everyone's first choice, esp when the kid is a cultural support.
for example, I dont know that I've ever seen the words "Sophie Davis" here on DCUM, but admissions into Sophie Davis garners far more oohs and ahhs than Harvard. Ditto Macaulay Honors.
also, it's a big class and a big world and stuy reflects it all .. which is awesome. I really love Stuy (and Tech and Bronx Sci etc) and think there are few institutions that catapult kids from poverty to professional class like these schools. my accountant is a stuy grad. my OB is one. the woman who did my will is one. etc etc. All of them landed in the public school system as new arrivals like so many kids are right now. The system isn't perfect, but these schools are jewels.
Most state's magnet schools are the same. It's just VA and SF with these massive magnet schools that aren't filled with poor people.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 15:35
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
stuy parent here.
https://stuy-talos-bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/media/documents/Matriculation_List__1.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAQXHMI6URNQ5MHS44&Signature=T6jAXVDhyY9v99mKzAO6dXt0AZc%3D&Expires=1719347269
this is from the portal. I'm not sure if you need to sign in (which you couldn't) ,but hopefully you can see it.
two things: racism in admissions is super real. "just another stuy robot" etc etc. it's bullshit. white kids like mine have an easier time.
and: I think it may be hard for DCUM to understand the poverty. many of these kids and their families really struggle. sending a kid far away is not everyone's first choice, esp when the kid is a cultural support.
for example, I dont know that I've ever seen the words "Sophie Davis" here on DCUM, but admissions into Sophie Davis garners far more oohs and ahhs than Harvard. Ditto Macaulay Honors.
also, it's a big class and a big world and stuy reflects it all .. which is awesome. I really love Stuy (and Tech and Bronx Sci etc) and think there are few institutions that catapult kids from poverty to professional class like these schools. my accountant is a stuy grad. my OB is one. the woman who did my will is one. etc etc. All of them landed in the public school system as new arrivals like so many kids are right now. The system isn't perfect, but these schools are jewels.
https://stuy-talos-bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/media/documents/Matriculation_List__1.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAQXHMI6URNQ5MHS44&Signature=T6jAXVDhyY9v99mKzAO6dXt0AZc%3D&Expires=1719347269
this is from the portal. I'm not sure if you need to sign in (which you couldn't) ,but hopefully you can see it.
two things: racism in admissions is super real. "just another stuy robot" etc etc. it's bullshit. white kids like mine have an easier time.
and: I think it may be hard for DCUM to understand the poverty. many of these kids and their families really struggle. sending a kid far away is not everyone's first choice, esp when the kid is a cultural support.
for example, I dont know that I've ever seen the words "Sophie Davis" here on DCUM, but admissions into Sophie Davis garners far more oohs and ahhs than Harvard. Ditto Macaulay Honors.
also, it's a big class and a big world and stuy reflects it all .. which is awesome. I really love Stuy (and Tech and Bronx Sci etc) and think there are few institutions that catapult kids from poverty to professional class like these schools. my accountant is a stuy grad. my OB is one. the woman who did my will is one. etc etc. All of them landed in the public school system as new arrivals like so many kids are right now. The system isn't perfect, but these schools are jewels.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 15:18
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 10% go to ivies. Many kids (250+) go to SUNYs and CUNYs. It is a class of 900 students.
40% go to Ivies in a typical year
No way. It’s been about 10%, give or take, for a while now.
A Stuy parent.
From the INS link, I see about 30% to Ivies.
Cornell alone took 15%.
But the instagram only has 250 posts that's less thana 1/3 of the graduating class. You think it's possible that the kids that got inot the better schools are more likely to link.
For example I know that a ton of kids go to stonybrook and binghamptom. Each of those schools typically get more stuy grads than cornell but the instagram shows more cornell students than stonybrook and binghamptom combined.
Point taken. But if you told me only 10% stuy goes to Ivies, that is still unbelievably low! For real?
Stuyvesant population gets hit by prejudice and low ratings on likability- see Harvard lawsuit for details. They actually put one of the Stuy college counselors on the stand, and she cried when describing how the kids were treated unfairly.
Study does really well at just below the tippy top level - UChicago, Emory, etc.
Uchicago is one of the ivy-pluses - equivalent to columbia.
Emory is one or two notch below.
If you count all Ivies + MIT, Stanford, Chicago, Northwestern, JHU, Duke, Caltech, Stuy probably still have about 30%?
PP here. That was question. Could any Stuy parent provide an answer? Thanks.
I don’t think this statistics is being collected, and given how huge the school is, any grass roots efforts are incomplete. The guidance counselor’s can tell you the data for each school - applied/ admitted, but this data is skewed by the kids who get in multiple Ivy + schools; given the socioeconomics, most Stuy students do not ED.
And if you look at where people are attending, again, there are many considerations that are different from a typical suburban highly rated HS. For example, many MC students chose Macaulay program because it’s absolutely free or the honors at Stony Brook where they only pay room and board. Some kids do not want to leave NYC because of family or work, so they consider NYC schools only. The artsy kids definitely tend to stay.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 14:45
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 10% go to ivies. Many kids (250+) go to SUNYs and CUNYs. It is a class of 900 students.
40% go to Ivies in a typical year
No way. It’s been about 10%, give or take, for a while now.
A Stuy parent.
From the INS link, I see about 30% to Ivies.
Cornell alone took 15%.
But the instagram only has 250 posts that's less thana 1/3 of the graduating class. You think it's possible that the kids that got inot the better schools are more likely to link.
For example I know that a ton of kids go to stonybrook and binghamptom. Each of those schools typically get more stuy grads than cornell but the instagram shows more cornell students than stonybrook and binghamptom combined.
Point taken. But if you told me only 10% stuy goes to Ivies, that is still unbelievably low! For real?
Stuyvesant population gets hit by prejudice and low ratings on likability- see Harvard lawsuit for details. They actually put one of the Stuy college counselors on the stand, and she cried when describing how the kids were treated unfairly.
Study does really well at just below the tippy top level - UChicago, Emory, etc.
Uchicago is one of the ivy-pluses - equivalent to columbia.
Emory is one or two notch below.
If you count all Ivies + MIT, Stanford, Chicago, Northwestern, JHU, Duke, Caltech, Stuy probably still have about 30%?
PP here. That was question. Could any Stuy parent provide an answer? Thanks.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 14:24
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 10% go to ivies. Many kids (250+) go to SUNYs and CUNYs. It is a class of 900 students.
40% go to Ivies in a typical year
No way. It’s been about 10%, give or take, for a while now.
A Stuy parent.
From the INS link, I see about 30% to Ivies.
Cornell alone took 15%.
But the instagram only has 250 posts that's less thana 1/3 of the graduating class. You think it's possible that the kids that got inot the better schools are more likely to link.
For example I know that a ton of kids go to stonybrook and binghamptom. Each of those schools typically get more stuy grads than cornell but the instagram shows more cornell students than stonybrook and binghamptom combined.
Point taken. But if you told me only 10% stuy goes to Ivies, that is still unbelievably low! For real?
Stuyvesant population gets hit by prejudice and low ratings on likability- see Harvard lawsuit for details. They actually put one of the Stuy college counselors on the stand, and she cried when describing how the kids were treated unfairly.
Study does really well at just below the tippy top level - UChicago, Emory, etc.
I'm sure colleges do this for any school that overwhelmingly apply to their schools. I do envy the admissions officers who have to go through Stuy and Brooklyn Tech applications.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 14:20
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 10% go to ivies. Many kids (250+) go to SUNYs and CUNYs. It is a class of 900 students.
40% go to Ivies in a typical year
No way. It’s been about 10%, give or take, for a while now.
A Stuy parent.
From the INS link, I see about 30% to Ivies.
Cornell alone took 15%.
But the instagram only has 250 posts that's less thana 1/3 of the graduating class. You think it's possible that the kids that got inot the better schools are more likely to link.
For example I know that a ton of kids go to stonybrook and binghamptom. Each of those schools typically get more stuy grads than cornell but the instagram shows more cornell students than stonybrook and binghamptom combined.
Point taken. But if you told me only 10% stuy goes to Ivies, that is still unbelievably low! For real?
Stuyvesant population gets hit by prejudice and low ratings on likability- see Harvard lawsuit for details. They actually put one of the Stuy college counselors on the stand, and she cried when describing how the kids were treated unfairly.
Study does really well at just below the tippy top level - UChicago, Emory, etc.
Uchicago is one of the ivy-pluses - equivalent to columbia.
Emory is one or two notch below.
If you count all Ivies + MIT, Stanford, Chicago, Northwestern, JHU, Duke, Caltech, Stuy probably still have about 30%?
Great, no one cares about some school in NYC.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 14:14
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 10% go to ivies. Many kids (250+) go to SUNYs and CUNYs. It is a class of 900 students.
40% go to Ivies in a typical year
No way. It’s been about 10%, give or take, for a while now.
A Stuy parent.
From the INS link, I see about 30% to Ivies.
Cornell alone took 15%.
But the instagram only has 250 posts that's less thana 1/3 of the graduating class. You think it's possible that the kids that got inot the better schools are more likely to link.
For example I know that a ton of kids go to stonybrook and binghamptom. Each of those schools typically get more stuy grads than cornell but the instagram shows more cornell students than stonybrook and binghamptom combined.
Point taken. But if you told me only 10% stuy goes to Ivies, that is still unbelievably low! For real?
Stuyvesant population gets hit by prejudice and low ratings on likability- see Harvard lawsuit for details. They actually put one of the Stuy college counselors on the stand, and she cried when describing how the kids were treated unfairly.
Study does really well at just below the tippy top level - UChicago, Emory, etc.
Uchicago is one of the ivy-pluses - equivalent to columbia.
Emory is one or two notch below.
If you count all Ivies + MIT, Stanford, Chicago, Northwestern, JHU, Duke, Caltech, Stuy probably still have about 30%?
Anonymous
06/25/2024 14:05
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live in NYC. VA publics are not popular. If they go OOS it's to MI, UCs, Wi, Georgia Tech, UVM, Bama.
Keep it that way.
I grew up in NYC and never even heard of Virginia Schools. The smart poor and middle class kids went to SUNY and the rich kids who stayed local went Colombia, Fordham, NYC and Very rich and very smart kids went IVY league.
For instance my brother went NYU in 1989 while living at home. Why would he go to Virginia and Pay OOS tuition plus room and board. I went to StonyBrook, my one sister St. Johns other sister Hofstra.
NY has a lot of schools. Folks dont need to cross the mason dixon line
Quite a bit do but the less NE people in VA the better. We have enough riff raff in NOVA.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 13:59
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 10% go to ivies. Many kids (250+) go to SUNYs and CUNYs. It is a class of 900 students.
40% go to Ivies in a typical year
No way. It’s been about 10%, give or take, for a while now.
A Stuy parent.
From the INS link, I see about 30% to Ivies.
Cornell alone took 15%.
But the instagram only has 250 posts that's less thana 1/3 of the graduating class. You think it's possible that the kids that got inot the better schools are more likely to link.
For example I know that a ton of kids go to stonybrook and binghamptom. Each of those schools typically get more stuy grads than cornell but the instagram shows more cornell students than stonybrook and binghamptom combined.
Point taken. But if you told me only 10% stuy goes to Ivies, that is still unbelievably low! For real?
Stuyvesant population gets hit by prejudice and low ratings on likability- see Harvard lawsuit for details. They actually put one of the Stuy college counselors on the stand, and she cried when describing how the kids were treated unfairly.
Study does really well at just below the tippy top level - UChicago, Emory, etc.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 13:57
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live in NYC. VA publics are not popular. If they go OOS it's to MI, UCs, Wi, Georgia Tech, UVM, Bama.
Keep it that way.
I grew up in NYC and never even heard of Virginia Schools. The smart poor and middle class kids went to SUNY and the rich kids who stayed local went Colombia, Fordham, NYC and Very rich and very smart kids went IVY league.
For instance my brother went NYU in 1989 while living at home. Why would he go to Virginia and Pay OOS tuition plus room and board. I went to StonyBrook, my one sister St. Johns other sister Hofstra.
NY has a lot of schools. Folks dont need to cross the mason dixon line
Don't forget Cornell, Rochester, Syracuse, Barnard.
Cross the hudson river, stevens institute of tech, rutgers, princeton, so many choices.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 13:53
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live in NYC. VA publics are not popular. If they go OOS it's to MI, UCs, Wi, Georgia Tech, UVM, Bama.
Keep it that way.
I grew up in NYC and never even heard of Virginia Schools. The smart poor and middle class kids went to SUNY and the rich kids who stayed local went Colombia, Fordham, NYC and Very rich and very smart kids went IVY league.
For instance my brother went NYU in 1989 while living at home. Why would he go to Virginia and Pay OOS tuition plus room and board. I went to StonyBrook, my one sister St. Johns other sister Hofstra.
NY has a lot of schools. Folks dont need to cross the mason dixon line
Anonymous
06/25/2024 13:51
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 10% go to ivies. Many kids (250+) go to SUNYs and CUNYs. It is a class of 900 students.
40% go to Ivies in a typical year
No way. It’s been about 10%, give or take, for a while now.
A Stuy parent.
From the INS link, I see about 30% to Ivies.
Cornell alone took 15%.
But the instagram only has 250 posts that's less thana 1/3 of the graduating class. You think it's possible that the kids that got inot the better schools are more likely to link.
For example I know that a ton of kids go to stonybrook and binghamptom. Each of those schools typically get more stuy grads than cornell but the instagram shows more cornell students than stonybrook and binghamptom combined.
Point taken. But if you told me only 10% stuy goes to Ivies, that is still unbelievably low! For real?
Anonymous
06/25/2024 13:19
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:I live in NYC. VA publics are not popular. If they go OOS it's to MI, UCs, Wi, Georgia Tech, UVM, Bama.
Keep it that way.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 13:08
Subject: Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 10% go to ivies. Many kids (250+) go to SUNYs and CUNYs. It is a class of 900 students.
40% go to Ivies in a typical year
No way. It’s been about 10%, give or take, for a while now.
A Stuy parent.
From the INS link, I see about 30% to Ivies.
Cornell alone took 15%.
But the instagram only has 250 posts that's less thana 1/3 of the graduating class. You think it's possible that the kids that got inot the better schools are more likely to link.
For example I know that a ton of kids go to stonybrook and binghamptom. Each of those schools typically get more stuy grads than cornell but the instagram shows more cornell students than stonybrook and binghamptom combined.