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Anonymous wrote:Potomac teams played in lower divisions in their own tournament and still got hammered.

Ours didn't. We came in 2nd in our group on a technicality; if the rules were goal differential instead of head to head, we'd have advanced (and maybe then gotten hammered).

You lost head to head and call that a technicality?

Tiebreaker rules are often total goals. So yeah, who advanced was up to the tiebreaker rules…could have gone several ways.

Sounds like you should have won the head to head game

I mean they tried! Just a small note: I think you’re feeling just a little more amped up and competitive than I am about this.

I'm amped up by simply pointing out your excuses about the rules is silly?
Did they change the rules after your team qualified?

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Anonymous wrote:Potomac teams played in lower divisions in their own tournament and still got hammered.

Ours didn't. We came in 2nd in our group on a technicality; if the rules were goal differential instead of head to head, we'd have advanced (and maybe then gotten hammered).

You lost head to head and call that a technicality?

Tiebreaker rules are often total goals. So yeah, who advanced was up to the tiebreaker rules…could have gone several ways.

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Anonymous wrote:Potomac teams played in lower divisions in their own tournament and still got hammered.

Ours didn't. We came in 2nd in our group on a technicality; if the rules were goal differential instead of head to head, we'd have advanced (and maybe then gotten hammered).

You lost head to head and call that a technicality?

Tiebreaker rules are often total goals. So yeah, who advanced was up to the tiebreaker rules…could have gone several ways.

Sounds like you should have won the head to head game

I mean they tried! Just a small note: I think you’re feeling just a little more amped up and competitive than I am about this.

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Anonymous wrote:Potomac teams played in lower divisions in their own tournament and still got hammered.

Ours didn't. We came in 2nd in our group on a technicality; if the rules were goal differential instead of head to head, we'd have advanced (and maybe then gotten hammered).

You lost head to head and call that a technicality?

Tiebreaker rules are often total goals. So yeah, who advanced was up to the tiebreaker rules…could have gone several ways.

Sounds like you should have won the head to head game

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Anonymous wrote:Potomac teams played in lower divisions in their own tournament and still got hammered.

Ours didn't. We came in 2nd in our group on a technicality; if the rules were goal differential instead of head to head, we'd have advanced (and maybe then gotten hammered).

You lost head to head and call that a technicality?

Tiebreaker rules are often total goals. So yeah, who advanced was up to the tiebreaker rules…could have gone several ways.

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Anonymous wrote:Potomac teams played in lower divisions in their own tournament and still got hammered.

Ours didn't. We came in 2nd in our group on a technicality; if the rules were goal differential instead of head to head, we'd have advanced (and maybe then gotten hammered).

You lost head to head and call that a technicality?

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Anonymous wrote:Potomac teams played in lower divisions in their own tournament and still got hammered.

Ours didn't. We came in 2nd in our group on a technicality; if the rules were goal differential instead of head to head, we'd have advanced (and maybe then gotten hammered).

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Anonymous wrote:Club in EDP doing badly. Hardly anyone knocking.

Club joins badge league still doing badly. Lines around the block to get in.

Everyone knows by now that EDP is a sinking ship, so moving to a program that has ECNL/RL or MLS/Nations League makes sense if you're a top player.

What makes EDP a sinking ship?

How can top players be in multiple leagues? Aren't they only in the top league?

When the MLS Club Academies and MLS Next teams stop recruiting players from EDP, then you may have a point

For good players, EDP is now mainly a feeder league for MLS Next and ECNL.
Doesn't mean that EDP is going to fold, but it's not a destination for top players any more.

I’d also argue EDP (at least on the girls side in MoCo), and especially NL, is for people who don’t want BSC ECNL/RL for any number of reasons. Playing time, less travel, less money, less pressure, more positive environment, no college interest, other sports. Plenty of reasons for someone in MoCo to not choose BSC even if they can make it.

But yeah it’s not like someone who is a clear starter for MLSN or ECNL girls is likely to play EDP. Absolutely correct for the dedicated, elite players. EDP is not the top nowadays or even close.

Let's get facts straight - BSC has ECNL for girls and MLS next for boys.

BSC has multiple teams. Do all teams play in ECNL for girls?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Programs that have ECNL generally have one team per age group in ECNL and one in ECNL R.

BSC has 4-5 teams for each age group. Do all teams play ECNL? Or do they go to different leagues? How to find that information out (w/o asking the program director)?

Also, keep in mind ECNL starts u13, with the first teams going pre-ECNL u12. RL starts u13. There aren’t 4-5 teams at the older ages. 3 usually the max once 11v11.

Starting at u13, as multiple others have said, it goes ECNL, RL, EDP. BSC this year seems to have named their 3rd teams—at all ages—pre-ECNL but they play EDP. Makes no sense.

Below u12 all BSC teams are in some variation of EDP, NCSL or SAM Select.

SAM select is rarely mentioned in any discussions. Which is the better/more competative league SAM select or NCSL?

NCSL is more competitive because it has more brackets within the age groups. SAM Select is just 1 or 2.

Correct. And especially on the girls side, SAM Select is a joke past u10 and bordering on falling apart. Combined age groups. Missing age groups. Really low level teams. MSI Classic and low level NCSL are better and it’s not even close past u10.

Bethesda only puts low teams in SAM Select up to u10.

Boys SAM Select can be more competitive.

Which league do Bethesda low teams go past U10? TIA.

Low U 9-U11 in NCSL, Green teams in low EDP (IV-VI)
Or they cut people/teams

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Anonymous wrote:Club in EDP doing badly. Hardly anyone knocking.

Club joins badge league still doing badly. Lines around the block to get in.

Everyone knows by now that EDP is a sinking ship, so moving to a program that has ECNL/RL or MLS/Nations League makes sense if you're a top player.

What makes EDP a sinking ship?

How can top players be in multiple leagues? Aren't they only in the top league?

When the MLS Club Academies and MLS Next teams stop recruiting players from EDP, then you may have a point

For good players, EDP is now mainly a feeder league for MLS Next and ECNL.
Doesn't mean that EDP is going to fold, but it's not a destination for top players any more.

I’d also argue EDP (at least on the girls side in MoCo), and especially NL, is for people who don’t want BSC ECNL/RL for any number of reasons. Playing time, less travel, less money, less pressure, more positive environment, no college interest, other sports. Plenty of reasons for someone in MoCo to not choose BSC even if they can make it.

But yeah it’s not like someone who is a clear starter for MLSN or ECNL girls is likely to play EDP. Absolutely correct for the dedicated, elite players. EDP is not the top nowadays or even close.

Let's get facts straight - BSC has ECNL for girls and MLS next for boys.

BSC has multiple teams. Do all teams play in ECNL for girls?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Programs that have ECNL generally have one team per age group in ECNL and one in ECNL R.

BSC has 4-5 teams for each age group. Do all teams play ECNL? Or do they go to different leagues? How to find that information out (w/o asking the program director)?

Also, keep in mind ECNL starts u13, with the first teams going pre-ECNL u12. RL starts u13. There aren’t 4-5 teams at the older ages. 3 usually the max once 11v11.

Starting at u13, as multiple others have said, it goes ECNL, RL, EDP. BSC this year seems to have named their 3rd teams—at all ages—pre-ECNL but they play EDP. Makes no sense.

Below u12 all BSC teams are in some variation of EDP, NCSL or SAM Select.

SAM select is rarely mentioned in any discussions. Which is the better/more competative league SAM select or NCSL?

NCSL is more competitive because it has more brackets within the age groups. SAM Select is just 1 or 2.

Correct. And especially on the girls side, SAM Select is a joke past u10 and bordering on falling apart. Combined age groups. Missing age groups. Really low level teams. MSI Classic and low level NCSL are better and it’s not even close past u10.

Bethesda only puts low teams in SAM Select up to u10.

Boys SAM Select can be more competitive.

Which league do Bethesda low teams go past U10? TIA.

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Anonymous wrote:Club in EDP doing badly. Hardly anyone knocking.

Club joins badge league still doing badly. Lines around the block to get in.

Everyone knows by now that EDP is a sinking ship, so moving to a program that has ECNL/RL or MLS/Nations League makes sense if you're a top player.

What makes EDP a sinking ship?

How can top players be in multiple leagues? Aren't they only in the top league?

When the MLS Club Academies and MLS Next teams stop recruiting players from EDP, then you may have a point

For good players, EDP is now mainly a feeder league for MLS Next and ECNL.
Doesn't mean that EDP is going to fold, but it's not a destination for top players any more.

I’d also argue EDP (at least on the girls side in MoCo), and especially NL, is for people who don’t want BSC ECNL/RL for any number of reasons. Playing time, less travel, less money, less pressure, more positive environment, no college interest, other sports. Plenty of reasons for someone in MoCo to not choose BSC even if they can make it.

But yeah it’s not like someone who is a clear starter for MLSN or ECNL girls is likely to play EDP. Absolutely correct for the dedicated, elite players. EDP is not the top nowadays or even close.

Let's get facts straight - BSC has ECNL for girls and MLS next for boys.

BSC has multiple teams. Do all teams play in ECNL for girls?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Programs that have ECNL generally have one team per age group in ECNL and one in ECNL R.

BSC has 4-5 teams for each age group. Do all teams play ECNL? Or do they go to different leagues? How to find that information out (w/o asking the program director)?

Also, keep in mind ECNL starts u13, with the first teams going pre-ECNL u12. RL starts u13. There aren’t 4-5 teams at the older ages. 3 usually the max once 11v11.

Starting at u13, as multiple others have said, it goes ECNL, RL, EDP. BSC this year seems to have named their 3rd teams—at all ages—pre-ECNL but they play EDP. Makes no sense.

Below u12 all BSC teams are in some variation of EDP, NCSL or SAM Select.

SAM select is rarely mentioned in any discussions. Which is the better/more competative league SAM select or NCSL?

NCSL is more competitive because it has more brackets within the age groups. SAM Select is just 1 or 2.

Correct. And especially on the girls side, SAM Select is a joke past u10 and bordering on falling apart. Combined age groups. Missing age groups. Really low level teams. MSI Classic and low level NCSL are better and it’s not even close past u10.

Bethesda only puts low teams in SAM Select up to u10.

Boys SAM Select can be more competitive.

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Anonymous wrote:Club in EDP doing badly. Hardly anyone knocking.

Club joins badge league still doing badly. Lines around the block to get in.

Everyone knows by now that EDP is a sinking ship, so moving to a program that has ECNL/RL or MLS/Nations League makes sense if you're a top player.

What makes EDP a sinking ship?

How can top players be in multiple leagues? Aren't they only in the top league?

When the MLS Club Academies and MLS Next teams stop recruiting players from EDP, then you may have a point

For good players, EDP is now mainly a feeder league for MLS Next and ECNL.
Doesn't mean that EDP is going to fold, but it's not a destination for top players any more.

I’d also argue EDP (at least on the girls side in MoCo), and especially NL, is for people who don’t want BSC ECNL/RL for any number of reasons. Playing time, less travel, less money, less pressure, more positive environment, no college interest, other sports. Plenty of reasons for someone in MoCo to not choose BSC even if they can make it.

But yeah it’s not like someone who is a clear starter for MLSN or ECNL girls is likely to play EDP. Absolutely correct for the dedicated, elite players. EDP is not the top nowadays or even close.

Let's get facts straight - BSC has ECNL for girls and MLS next for boys.

BSC has multiple teams. Do all teams play in ECNL for girls?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Programs that have ECNL generally have one team per age group in ECNL and one in ECNL R.

BSC has 4-5 teams for each age group. Do all teams play ECNL? Or do they go to different leagues? How to find that information out (w/o asking the program director)?

Also, keep in mind ECNL starts u13, with the first teams going pre-ECNL u12. RL starts u13. There aren’t 4-5 teams at the older ages. 3 usually the max once 11v11.

Starting at u13, as multiple others have said, it goes ECNL, RL, EDP. BSC this year seems to have named their 3rd teams—at all ages—pre-ECNL but they play EDP. Makes no sense.

Below u12 all BSC teams are in some variation of EDP, NCSL or SAM Select.

SAM select is rarely mentioned in any discussions. Which is the better/more competative league SAM select or NCSL?

NCSL is more competitive because it has more brackets within the age groups. SAM Select is just 1 or 2.

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That’s not even remotely true. Maybe there’s a rare good team that would he good enough for EDP 1 or 2, but in general, EDP 1 is far, far better than NCSL 1 and EDP 2 is far, far better than NCSL 2.