Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 21:52     Subject: BC or Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BC for sure

Michigan has amazing history departments but the size is comically large -

Just way too many kids



+100

BC has less than 10k. UM has 33k.


You make this assumption that the 33k undergrads are all lumped into the same mass of students. When you separate out the classes, there are about 8,000-8500 pear year at Michigan. They are all jumbled together across different dorms as freshmen, but as sophomores and going forward, they generally tend to self-segregate based on friend groups and which "school" they are in, Engineering, Ross, etc,.

So you have to look at it more as an opportunity to "find their people" than it being so big. It is easy to cut down the size based on activities, clubs etc.



And the 8k are 2k each year.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 21:50     Subject: BC or Michigan?
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/undergraduate-teaching

BC #8
Michigan #16

I’d say they’re pretty comparable.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 21:46     Subject: BC or Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How much does Michigan cost out of state?

Michigan and UVA are the most expensive oos state flagships in the country. It depends on major/school, and tuition goes up junior and senior years, but it is at least 60k tuition and fees a year at Michigan. Can’t imagine people would pay that instead of going to BC, unless they conflate prestige with US News’ big state U bias and grad school rankings. If anything, BC is more prestigious for undergrad to the people who know — but that’s not the sample of folks on this site.


“The people who know” don’t consider BC more prestigious for undergrad. Stop spouting nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 19:23     Subject: BC or Michigan?
They’re completely different. I can’t imagine liking one and also liking the other.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 19:13     Subject: BC or Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:How much does Michigan cost out of state?

Michigan and UVA are the most expensive oos state flagships in the country. It depends on major/school, and tuition goes up junior and senior years, but it is at least 60k tuition and fees a year at Michigan. Can’t imagine people would pay that instead of going to BC, unless they conflate prestige with US News’ big state U bias and grad school rankings. If anything, BC is more prestigious for undergrad to the people who know — but that’s not the sample of folks on this site.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 19:05     Subject: BC or Michigan?
Two totally different schools. My child chose not to apply to BC because of the preppy, lax bro culture but still a very good school.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 19:03     Subject: BC or Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BC for sure

Michigan has amazing history departments but the size is comically large -

Just way too many kids



+100

BC has less than 10k. UM has 33k.


You make this assumption that the 33k undergrads are all lumped into the same mass of students. When you separate out the classes, there are about 8,000-8500 pear year at Michigan. They are all jumbled together across different dorms as freshmen, but as sophomores and going forward, they generally tend to self-segregate based on friend groups and which "school" they are in, Engineering, Ross, etc,.

So you have to look at it more as an opportunity to "find their people" than it being so big. It is easy to cut down the size based on activities, clubs etc.



It’s a pretty common perception from people who think that all large public universities are pretty much the same. You won’t hear that very often from Michigan graduates.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 17:55     Subject: BC or Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:We just toured BC and it's very very suburban white kid vibe. I mean, felt even more than it was in the 90s when I was a very suburban white kid!

I like Jesuits, but a little diversity of thought would be good. And that can't only come from the top. The student population should be a little more diverse, and not just racially. It's unusual to be on a college campus now without seeing a more gender fluid, international, artsy, etc kids. But you don't see that at BC.

I'd maybe go with Michigan. I think a kid would grow more there.


That was my first thought as someone who worked in the IT dept at BC for a bit over twenty years ago.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 17:43     Subject: BC or Michigan?
BC . Especially if oos full-pay at Michigan.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 16:58     Subject: BC or Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BC for sure

Michigan has amazing history departments but the size is comically large -

Just way too many kids



+100

BC has less than 10k. UM has 33k.


You make this assumption that the 33k undergrads are all lumped into the same mass of students. When you separate out the classes, there are about 8,000-8500 pear year at Michigan. They are all jumbled together across different dorms as freshmen, but as sophomores and going forward, they generally tend to self-segregate based on friend groups and which "school" they are in, Engineering, Ross, etc,.

So you have to look at it more as an opportunity to "find their people" than it being so big. It is easy to cut down the size based on activities, clubs etc.