Anonymous
Post 05/13/2024 08:34     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.


I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.


You don’t seem very bright. No one signs up for teaching thinking it’s a 40-hour week. I’d absolutely take a $20K raise and would deserve it. If you don’t want to do this work, move on.


Wow. You went for my intellect without even knowing me, my reasons for teaching, or my success in this field.

I simply said I would prefer more reasonable hours over more pay, and for this I’m stupid? Seriously?

I do the work. I do it each weeknight. I do it all day every Saturday (seriously… 10 hours). I often work Sundays. How DARE I suggest that fewer hours would be nice. Wow.

Reread your post and realize how silly and eye-rolling it is.


DP - the hours teachers have to work is a problem. Teachers don't have a work-life balance. This keeps people from wanting to go into this field and contributes to the overall shortage. I obtained a provisional license and substitute but will probably not go into teaching after dealing with the bad behavior from students and seeing the workload involved just from the long-term assignments I've taken. And I don't even have to go to all the meetings, trainings, ect. The pay is ridiculously low.




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Anonymous
Post 05/13/2024 08:32     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.


I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.


You don’t seem very bright. No one signs up for teaching thinking it’s a 40-hour week. I’d absolutely take a $20K raise and would deserve it. If you don’t want to do this work, move on.


Wow. You went for my intellect without even knowing me, my reasons for teaching, or my success in this field.

I simply said I would prefer more reasonable hours over more pay, and for this I’m stupid? Seriously?

I do the work. I do it each weeknight. I do it all day every Saturday (seriously… 10 hours). I often work Sundays. How DARE I suggest that fewer hours would be nice. Wow.

Reread your post and realize how silly and eye-rolling it is.


DP - the hours teachers have to work is a problem. Teachers don't have a work-life balance. This keeps people from wanting to go into this field and contributes to the overall shortage. I obtained a provisional license and substitute but will probably not go into teaching after dealing with the bad behavior from students and seeing the workload involved just from the long-term assignments I've taken. And I don't even have to go to all the meetings, trainings, ect. The pay is ridiculously low.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2024 07:50     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.


I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.


You’re free to leave at any time.


I’m the PP. I made an extremely reasonable comment. Nowhere did I say I want to quit. I merely said better working conditions would be nice.

I don’t think telling teachers to quit over such benign comments is in anybody’s best interest. Trust me - you don’t want me to quit. I’m the teacher you’re calling the office to get your kid switched to.


Teachers' Appreciation Week is truly over. Time to trash them again!!
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2024 04:30     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.


I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.


You’re free to leave at any time.


I’m the PP. I made an extremely reasonable comment. Nowhere did I say I want to quit. I merely said better working conditions would be nice.

I don’t think telling teachers to quit over such benign comments is in anybody’s best interest. Trust me - you don’t want me to quit. I’m the teacher you’re calling the office to get your kid switched to.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 21:53     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.


I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.


You’re free to leave at any time.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 18:40     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:i would love if we went to a four day school week with kids and then one day to handle administrative/meetings/planning/cts/etc

mon
tues

wed off

thurs
fri



Would that put us in a “year round” school calendar? If so, then I wouldn’t want this. I assume the alternative is a longer school day and I wouldn’t want that either.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 17:05     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.


I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.


You don’t seem very bright. No one signs up for teaching thinking it’s a 40-hour week. I’d absolutely take a $20K raise and would deserve it. If you don’t want to do this work, move on.


I don't know. I don't know how many 18 year olds starting to study in a field really think a lot about the hours their field will require. If not thinking about that 30+ years ago makes me stupid, then so be it. I certainly didn't bargain for 55-60 hour work weeks, though. I'd take a 4 day work week now over a 20K raise, but really, I'm just staying until my youngest graduates college and then I'm out. Even doubling my pay isn't enough to make me stay.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 16:06     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.


I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.


You don’t seem very bright. No one signs up for teaching thinking it’s a 40-hour week. I’d absolutely take a $20K raise and would deserve it. If you don’t want to do this work, move on.


Wow. You went for my intellect without even knowing me, my reasons for teaching, or my success in this field.

I simply said I would prefer more reasonable hours over more pay, and for this I’m stupid? Seriously?

I do the work. I do it each weeknight. I do it all day every Saturday (seriously… 10 hours). I often work Sundays. How DARE I suggest that fewer hours would be nice. Wow.

Reread your post and realize how silly and eye-rolling it is.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 15:55     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:i would love if we went to a four day school week with kids and then one day to handle administrative/meetings/planning/cts/etc

mon
tues

wed off

thurs
fri



Let us working slobs talk to our bosses and see how they feel about this schedule, hold on. Yes, as expected, that is a big NO!
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 15:53     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.


I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.


You don’t seem very bright. No one signs up for teaching thinking it’s a 40-hour week. I’d absolutely take a $20K raise and would deserve it. If you don’t want to do this work, move on.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 15:49     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
i would love if we went to a four day school week with kids and then one day to handle administrative/meetings/planning/cts/etc

mon
tues

wed off

thurs
fri

Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 14:00     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.


I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 13:57     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.


Also, selfishly, I’m thinking how many more kids I will have in my class or how many new teaches I will have to guide through the curriculum or how much harder it will be to get sub days next year because we will all be that much more stressed. We will miss the people who are leaving as well as dealing with the effects of understaffed schools and that doesn’t have to do budgets. It will cause more and more people to leave though as we get more stressed.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 13:15     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.


i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2024 10:02     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.