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Anonymous wrote:People go to Latin because they are zoned for schools where 70-80% of kids test below grade level and they can't afford your $2M home or $5k rent in upper NW where you look down your nose on them for going to Latin.

I mean yes, it's an excellent choice for many families who are not in bounds for Deal, Oyster or Hardy, don't have a feeder to DCI, and don't think their kids would do well at BASIS.

When making our lottery list we talked to lots of families that might have gone to DCI but chose Latin just to see if it was worth our applying (and talked to DCI parents too). It's wild but it turns out different families felt their kids had different needs. Some kids excel with chrome books and actively reaching out for help when struggling and organization. Other kids don't. Some kids like small community and some hate it.

All these posters sound sour and it's so unclear why.

Well Basis would fit the bill above like Latin but many families don’t choose Basis because their kid is not high performing and can’t handle it like mentioned above.

The average kids who need hand holding go to Latin. Nothing wrong with being an average kid but that’s why it’s not surprising Latin is ranked so low.

Not wanting Basis means a kid is average and needs hand holding?

Don't have a kid at any of these schools, but FFS

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Anonymous wrote:People go to Latin because they are zoned for schools where 70-80% of kids test below grade level and they can't afford your $2M home or $5k rent in upper NW where you look down your nose on them for going to Latin.

I mean yes, it's an excellent choice for many families who are not in bounds for Deal, Oyster or Hardy, don't have a feeder to DCI, and don't think their kids would do well at BASIS.

When making our lottery list we talked to lots of families that might have gone to DCI but chose Latin just to see if it was worth our applying (and talked to DCI parents too). It's wild but it turns out different families felt their kids had different needs. Some kids excel with chrome books and actively reaching out for help when struggling and organization. Other kids don't. Some kids like small community and some hate it.

All these posters sound sour and it's so unclear why.

Also, Latin(s) aren’t awesomely convenient to the Hill naturally, but there are buses to both campuses. DCI is ridiculously inconvenient and there is no solution. Kids commute 1.5 hours each way to DCI from the Hill! No offense meant to DCI, but no thank you!

No need to think about DCI because the hill crowd is now shut out out DCI unless you go to a feeder and not your Hill elementary.

It’s correct that for the hill crowd with average kid that Latin is the only option.

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Anonymous wrote:People go to Latin because they are zoned for schools where 70-80% of kids test below grade level and they can't afford your $2M home or $5k rent in upper NW where you look down your nose on them for going to Latin.

I mean yes, it's an excellent choice for many families who are not in bounds for Deal, Oyster or Hardy, don't have a feeder to DCI, and don't think their kids would do well at BASIS.

When making our lottery list we talked to lots of families that might have gone to DCI but chose Latin just to see if it was worth our applying (and talked to DCI parents too). It's wild but it turns out different families felt their kids had different needs. Some kids excel with chrome books and actively reaching out for help when struggling and organization. Other kids don't. Some kids like small community and some hate it.

All these posters sound sour and it's so unclear why.

Also, Latin(s) aren’t awesomely convenient to the Hill naturally, but there are buses to both campuses. DCI is ridiculously inconvenient and there is no solution. Kids commute 1.5 hours each way to DCI from the Hill! No offense meant to DCI, but no thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:People go to Latin because they are zoned for schools where 70-80% of kids test below grade level and they can't afford your $2M home or $5k rent in upper NW where you look down your nose on them for going to Latin.

I mean yes, it's an excellent choice for many families who are not in bounds for Deal, Oyster or Hardy, don't have a feeder to DCI, and don't think their kids would do well at BASIS.

When making our lottery list we talked to lots of families that might have gone to DCI but chose Latin just to see if it was worth our applying (and talked to DCI parents too). It's wild but it turns out different families felt their kids had different needs. Some kids excel with chrome books and actively reaching out for help when struggling and organization. Other kids don't. Some kids like small community and some hate it.

All these posters sound sour and it's so unclear why.

Well Basis would fit the bill above like Latin but many families don’t choose Basis because their kid is not high performing and can’t handle it like mentioned above.

The average kids who need hand holding go to Latin. Nothing wrong with being an average kid but that’s why it’s not surprising Latin is ranked so low.

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Anonymous wrote:People go to Latin because they are zoned for schools where 70-80% of kids test below grade level and they can't afford your $2M home or $5k rent in upper NW where you look down your nose on them for going to Latin.

I mean yes, it's an excellent choice for many families who are not in bounds for Deal, Oyster or Hardy, don't have a feeder to DCI, and don't think their kids would do well at BASIS.

When making our lottery list we talked to lots of families that might have gone to DCI but chose Latin just to see if it was worth our applying (and talked to DCI parents too). It's wild but it turns out different families felt their kids had different needs. Some kids excel with chrome books and actively reaching out for help when struggling and organization. Other kids don't. Some kids like small community and some hate it.

All these posters sound sour and it's so unclear why.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People go to Latin because they are zoned for schools where 70-80% of kids test below grade level and they can't afford your $2M home or $5k rent in upper NW where you look down your nose on them for going to Latin.

I mean yes, it's an excellent choice for many families who are not in bounds for Deal, Oyster or Hardy, don't have a feeder to DCI, and don't think their kids would do well at BASIS.

Latin is the default for people with no other good options.

This. All the other schools mentioned above are much better. The people looking at Latin are shut out of these schools due to boundary or feeder and their kids are not high performing for Basis.

Anonymous wrote:Eastern seems to prove my point about living on the Hill.

So you think "Hill" people choose Latin over Eastern, which has a (checks notes) 0 percent pass rate for math on PARCC because.... it's just what their neighbors do?

OK.

Anonymous wrote:Eastern seems to prove my point about living on the Hill.

The Hill includes expensive close in real estate and less expensive real estate - i.e. people who cannot afford in bounds for Deal or Hardy. People in outer Hill East, Kingman Park. Do you count someone who lives at 17th and E SE or NE as some rich person living on the Hill (?) comparable to someone who can live in bounds for Deal?

Get your head out of your *ss.

Search Redfin by middle school boundary and get back to us on the cost of living in bounds for Hardy or Deal vs. Eliot Hine.

Eastern seems to prove my point about living on the Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:That's not true - people go to Latin because their neighbors did and they live on the Hill.

Let's look at the data for Latin attendees by boundary middle school:

MacFarland Middle School 51
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 42
Deal Middle School 41
Eliot-Hine Middle School 29
Jefferson Middle School Academy 27
Brookland Middle School 26
Ida B. Wells Middle School 23
Cardozo Education Campus 15
Columbia Heights Education Campus 6-8 (CHEC) 10
McKinley Middle School 10

... and boundary highschool

Eastern High School 101
Roosevelt High School 81
Dunbar High School 50
Wilson High School 49
Coolidge High School 41
Anacostia High School 16
Woodson High School 12
Ballou High School 11

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Anonymous wrote:People go to Latin because they are zoned for schools where 70-80% of kids test below grade level and they can't afford your $2M home or $5k rent in upper NW where you look down your nose on them for going to Latin.

I mean yes, it's an excellent choice for many families who are not in bounds for Deal, Oyster or Hardy, don't have a feeder to DCI, and don't think their kids would do well at BASIS.

Latin is the default for people with no other good options.

Anonymous wrote:That's not true - people go to Latin because their neighbors did and they live on the Hill.

Let's look at the data for Latin attendees by boundary middle school:

MacFarland Middle School 51
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 42
Deal Middle School 41
Eliot-Hine Middle School 29
Jefferson Middle School Academy 27
Brookland Middle School 26
Ida B. Wells Middle School 23
Cardozo Education Campus 15
Columbia Heights Education Campus 6-8 (CHEC) 10
McKinley Middle School 10

Anonymous wrote:That's not true - people go to Latin because their neighbors did and they live on the Hill.

Where:

Stuart Hobson has 16% of kids at grade level for math and 41% for ELA
Eliot Hine has 16% of kids at grade level for math and 33% for ELA
Eastern has 0% of kids at grade level for math and 21% for ELA

... and while close in on the Hill might be comparable, real estate cost wise, to NW, once you get past the first 10-12 blocks east of the Capitol, prices keep dropping, on out to Hill East and Kingman Park, where homes sell for a fraction of the price of a home in NW.

So I stand by my point.

That's not true - people go to Latin because their neighbors did and they live on the Hill.

Anonymous wrote:People go to Latin because they are zoned for schools where 70-80% of kids test below grade level and they can't afford your $2M home or $5k rent in upper NW where you look down your nose on them for going to Latin.

I mean yes, it's an excellent choice for many families who are not in bounds for Deal, Oyster or Hardy, don't have a feeder to DCI, and don't think their kids would do well at BASIS.