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Anonymous wrote:They aren’t just paying me for busy work. They are also paying me to be available to solve problems that come up. To have access to my expertise.

Perhaps you should be paid only for when your expertise is actually used.

This thread frustrates me because it’s showing how severely imbalanced careers are. I’m a teacher who is highly skilled and highly credentialed. My employer needs my skills 55-60 hours a week, sometimes more. I solve problems that come up 15-20 times a day. And my work is extremely important.

This imbalance is driving so many people out of teaching. Why should I work so hard for so little when I can get a job sitting around for more pay? (Perhaps I’m overqualified?)

So get another job then. Bottom line - the market doesn’t need to pay teachers a lot because actually quite a lot of people are capable and willing to do it. Because it’s actually not that bad - summers off is HUGE and no, you’re not actually working all summer - so get over yourself.

… written by a person who knows nothing about teaching. No, plenty of people AREN’T capable and willing to do it. That’s why we are experiencing a major shortage. And no, it IS “actually that bad.” Unlike the many people posting about their easy jobs that pay tons of $$, teachers work without breaks in stressful, unsustainable conditions. Many people can’t last, demonstrating how hard the job actually is. And I didn’t even mention summer, so what was up with that weird comment?

And I’m happy to “get over myself” and quit like everybody else. Question is, what happens then?

The schools will either pay more or lower the teacher standards more and the public schools will get even worse than they have over the decades, which will happen regardless. People who care will send their kids to private and life will go on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t just paying me for busy work. They are also paying me to be available to solve problems that come up. To have access to my expertise.

Perhaps you should be paid only for when your expertise is actually used.

This thread frustrates me because it’s showing how severely imbalanced careers are. I’m a teacher who is highly skilled and highly credentialed. My employer needs my skills 55-60 hours a week, sometimes more. I solve problems that come up 15-20 times a day. And my work is extremely important.

This imbalance is driving so many people out of teaching. Why should I work so hard for so little when I can get a job sitting around for more pay? (Perhaps I’m overqualified?)

So get another job then. Bottom line - the market doesn’t need to pay teachers a lot because actually quite a lot of people are capable and willing to do it. Because it’s actually not that bad - summers off is HUGE and no, you’re not actually working all summer - so get over yourself.

… written by a person who knows nothing about teaching. No, plenty of people AREN’T capable and willing to do it. That’s why we are experiencing a major shortage. And no, it IS “actually that bad.” Unlike the many people posting about their easy jobs that pay tons of $$, teachers work without breaks in stressful, unsustainable conditions. Many people can’t last, demonstrating how hard the job actually is. And I didn’t even mention summer, so what was up with that weird comment?

And I’m happy to “get over myself” and quit like everybody else. Question is, what happens then?

The unemployment rate is super low and there are “major shortages” in tons of industries. Only teachers think this is some divine sign of their own unique martyrdom.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t just paying me for busy work. They are also paying me to be available to solve problems that come up. To have access to my expertise.

Perhaps you should be paid only for when your expertise is actually used.

This thread frustrates me because it’s showing how severely imbalanced careers are. I’m a teacher who is highly skilled and highly credentialed. My employer needs my skills 55-60 hours a week, sometimes more. I solve problems that come up 15-20 times a day. And my work is extremely important.

This imbalance is driving so many people out of teaching. Why should I work so hard for so little when I can get a job sitting around for more pay? (Perhaps I’m overqualified?)

So get another job then. Bottom line - the market doesn’t need to pay teachers a lot because actually quite a lot of people are capable and willing to do it. Because it’s actually not that bad - summers off is HUGE and no, you’re not actually working all summer - so get over yourself.

… written by a person who knows nothing about teaching. No, plenty of people AREN’T capable and willing to do it. That’s why we are experiencing a major shortage. And no, it IS “actually that bad.” Unlike the many people posting about their easy jobs that pay tons of $$, teachers work without breaks in stressful, unsustainable conditions. Many people can’t last, demonstrating how hard the job actually is. And I didn’t even mention summer, so what was up with that weird comment?

And I’m happy to “get over myself” and quit like everybody else. Question is, what happens then?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t just paying me for busy work. They are also paying me to be available to solve problems that come up. To have access to my expertise.

Perhaps you should be paid only for when your expertise is actually used.

This thread frustrates me because it’s showing how severely imbalanced careers are. I’m a teacher who is highly skilled and highly credentialed. My employer needs my skills 55-60 hours a week, sometimes more. I solve problems that come up 15-20 times a day. And my work is extremely important.

This imbalance is driving so many people out of teaching. Why should I work so hard for so little when I can get a job sitting around for more pay? (Perhaps I’m overqualified?)

So get another job then. Bottom line - the market doesn’t need to pay teachers a lot because actually quite a lot of people are capable and willing to do it. Because it’s actually not that bad - summers off is HUGE and no, you’re not actually working all summer - so get over yourself.

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t just paying me for busy work. They are also paying me to be available to solve problems that come up. To have access to my expertise.

Perhaps you should be paid only for when your expertise is actually used.

This thread frustrates me because it’s showing how severely imbalanced careers are. I’m a teacher who is highly skilled and highly credentialed. My employer needs my skills 55-60 hours a week, sometimes more. I solve problems that come up 15-20 times a day. And my work is extremely important.

This imbalance is driving so many people out of teaching. Why should I work so hard for so little when I can get a job sitting around for more pay? (Perhaps I’m overqualified?)

I too have occasional intense projects but outside of those, overall it’s about 20 hrs/week for $240K. Not complaining.

They aren’t just paying me for busy work. They are also paying me to be available to solve problems that come up. To have access to my expertise.

Anonymous wrote:Guys, consolidate your work to 4 days and come sub on the 5th. Please!

—teacher who had to cover a colleague’s classes again today because no one picked up the job

+1 from a SPED teacher. I have an eye infection because a student scratched me in the eye the other day. I'm so tired.

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Anonymous wrote:I also get paid about 180k as a fed and when I’m not in litigation, it’s honestly really chill. I get paid to think, talk things out with my team to reach a sound strategy with documents and data, and no true deliverables in the traditional sense. we have deadlines but as a team we keep each other accountable with short term turnarounds to keep things moving. 40 hours is plenty, some weeks I don’t work that much. I love the flexibility too

Now, I pay for it when we get to litigation. Then WLB goes out the window and I become relatively underpaid for that amount of effort

I was a PP, and this is my job too. Soooo much better than private practice.

I billed out at 1500/hr at my old firm. I am paid probably around 210,000 with salary+benefits as a fed. I earn that much in the market after 140 hours. Which is only about an hour of work a day. I work more than that (though certainly not overworked).

Thats how I justify that I'm not just a huge rip-off to the taxpayer. Its actually a deal! You would pay more for my time if you contracted it out.

Also, to the teachers, I think you should all be paid 200k+. Hard job, and probably the most important job in our society. We should reward it and incentivize doing it.

Your work as a fed is not worth 1500/hr

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Anonymous wrote:Today a second grader called me a btch and threw things at me.

You know I don’t make $180. Never will.

I’m so stupid.

I am so sorry, I strongly believe that starting salary for teachers in our area should be 80k and it should go up to 200k. You guys play a hugely important role in the community and somehow are not compensated accordingly. I am the HR pp, while my work is important but no way it has the same kind of impact as teachers.

I don’t want people to go into teaching for money because it attracts the wrong kind of people. But I do think teachers should get massive tax breaks and homestead exemptions and mortgage assistance.

You do realize that this exactly the same as giving them more money, only you tell them how to spend part of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Today a second grader called me a btch and threw things at me.

You know I don’t make $180. Never will.

I’m so stupid.

I am so sorry, I strongly believe that starting salary for teachers in our area should be 80k and it should go up to 200k. You guys play a hugely important role in the community and somehow are not compensated accordingly. I am the HR pp, while my work is important but no way it has the same kind of impact as teachers.

I don’t want people to go into teaching for money because it attracts the wrong kind of people. But I do think teachers should get massive tax breaks and homestead exemptions and mortgage assistance.

Also, kids who physically assault teachers should be suspended and repeat offenders should be removed to high risk youth schools.

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. Need to find one of these easy lazy jobs. I am exhausted from managing middle schoolers all day

You guys should get combat pay. Seriously. It’s worse than high school.

Anonymous wrote:Guys, consolidate your work to 4 days and come sub on the 5th. Please!

—teacher who had to cover a colleague’s classes again today because no one picked up the job

I love this suggestion! To everyone on this thread: we could really use you! I worked 11 hours today and I think I sat down for about 40 minutes total. Forgot to eat lunch. I had to cover a class and take an extra duty because we are so short staffed.

Yes, please sub! Help us out!

Anonymous wrote:Ugh... I am a fed and have been working 60 hour weeks. I need to get out of the role of actually doing the work and into management. I listen to my DH and he spends all day on the phone BSing. Does no real work whatsoever.

Only broey men and REALLY hot women can do this.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Glad I'm not the only one. At 180k. I can get my work done in about 2-3 hours most days

I am so glad OP started this thread, I make 160k in middle management, work no more than 10-15 hours a week. I WFH 4 days and it all sounds great on paper but I am bored out of my mind. Just for context, I don’t have any pending deliverables, can finish my work really quickly because I am good at it

My kids are 14 and 16, this job provides a great work life balance so I am scared to change jobs. Once again, boredom is my biggest challenge, maybe I should go into office 2-3 days and that will alleviate this feeling of not being productive.

What the what? Are they monitoring you while you are on your computer? Tracking mouse clicks so you HAVE to fake work for 40 hours?


If you really have tons of idle time, learn a new skill like programming or setting up your own AI or build an app; maybe you could even automate some of your business and be even more idle. Read a book, master go, watch the criterion collection on your phone.

I worked as an intern at an office job pre-internet, stuck in basically a closet all summer long ignored by the staff. I mastered Microsoft Hearts and taught my self access programming and build a database for their documentation in my off time.

You have the entire worlds knowledge in your pocket, how can you be bored??