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Anonymous wrote:UVA has 3 types of instate applicants. Those with legacy connections, high stat NOVA kids looking for a solid safety and first timers and URMs looking to take advantage of emerging woke admissions policies.

No. It’s one of the first choice in-state options for families that don’t want to waste $85k/year on private universities.

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My son was accepted to some higher ranked schools, but as Virginians it is getting very hard to justify paying an additional $50k or so per year for an undergraduate degree.

Anonymous wrote:People say UVA isn’t a safety for anyone but when 50 people plus get in from a FCPS school, it sort of is. I had no doubt my child would get in.

Most likely even more than 50 kids probably had the stats to get accepted but I assume that UVA (or any state school) probably has a limit on how many from each school can be accepted. NOVA tends to have the highest stat kids. So kid #60 from a NOVA school could have probably been admitted if they lived in another county in Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA was not our backup, but we did pick William and Mary over UVA.

Same. Liked the smaller size

No, no. Didn’t you get the memo? The only possible explanation for picking WM over UVA is that your kid must be “quirky.” 😀

That is so on point with dcum!

As a VT grad, I was sort of flabbergasted by the number of guys in full on khakis, vests, polos for just partying at the clubs on a random college night to the bars when we recently visited. I mean my kids wear that to their private school for dress code, but not typically what they hang out in when not in school or a night out with friends. Do all the schools dress like this or is this still a UVA thing? My son is an athlete, but gets turned off by an overly 'bro' culture so not sure the fit is there.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA was not our backup, but we did pick William and Mary over UVA.

Same. Liked the smaller size

No, no. Didn’t you get the memo? The only possible explanation for picking WM over UVA is that your kid must be “quirky.” 😀

That is so on point with dcum!

Anonymous wrote:Race can be used via your essays and how your race has played a role in your life. You just do not have the box checking so colleges that choose can increase diversity through essays.

+1 Bingo.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA was not our backup, but we did pick William and Mary over UVA.

Same. Liked the smaller size

No, no. Didn’t you get the memo? The only possible explanation for picking WM over UVA is that your kid must be “quirky.” 😀

Anonymous wrote:I thought in the past the state schools had a limit of 25% OOS - but maybe that was in the 90s. In terms of admitting OOS, VA does seem a bit on the generous side. Some states like Florida limit OOS to 10% for all the Florida public schools combined.

In Virginia, all 3 of the schools I mentioned earlier (VT, UVa, W&M) have had roughly 1/3rd OOS — since at least the early 1980s, probably back into the late 1970s. This is part of an agreement / understanding with the Commonwealth dating back at least to the early 1980s or late 1970s. The 1/3rd limit is approximate, not precise, because not all offers of admission result in matriculations. There are particular years where the OOS was a bit above or a bit below 1/3rd.

I have no information about other states.

Separately, I forget the precise year, but certainly this century UVa did have a year where it accidentally was visibly over-enrolled. The Rector & Board of Visitors were not amused. The smaller undergraduate schools (e.g., Architecture, Engineering, Nursing) were not greatly affected by the over-enrollment, but Arts & Sciences scrambled to add additional sections of required 1st semester courses [English 101 equivalent and such like]. They ran out of 1st year housing and were putting the unlucky “overflow” 1st year students in any bed they could find. Since then, UVa Admissions has been more conservative about its initial admissions offers and has used the set of 10 wait pools fairly regularly. As various PPs have already noted, other colleges (e.g., VT) have had similar over-enrollment situations from time to time.

People say UVA isn’t a safety for anyone but when 50 people plus get in from a FCPS school, it sort of is. I had no doubt my child would get in.

Anonymous wrote:UVA has 3 types of instate applicants. Those with legacy connections, high stat NOVA kids looking for a solid safety and first timers and URMs looking to take advantage of emerging woke admissions policies.

UVa is not a safety for anyone any longer. Now, UVa admisssions are a lottery, just like so many other places.

Anonymous wrote:UVA has 3 types of instate applicants. Those with legacy connections, high stat NOVA kids looking for a solid safety and first timers and URMs looking to take advantage of emerging woke admissions policies.

No. It’s one of the first choice in-state options for families that don’t want to waste $85k/year on private universities.

Anonymous wrote:Race can be used via your essays and how your race has played a role in your life. You just do not have the box checking so colleges that choose can increase diversity through essays.

BUT using race as a factor in admissions is illegal.

Anonymous wrote:Race can be used via your essays and how your race has played a role in your life. You just do not have the box checking so colleges that choose can increase diversity through essays.

When the SP decision came out, I remember people saying that that is one way to get around being able to consider race. Still, I feel like less schools are going to consider race unless a racial quota is directly tied to receiving school funding. In general, these race based policies seem to have caused more damage than good (at least in the current day environment). Either deserving non-minority kids are getting rejected or deserving under-represented minority kids are looked at as though they only got in because of the race based policies. Both situations are NOT ok. Many schools seem to be conscious of not taking race into their admissions decisions after the SP decision.

Ummmmm....Okaayy

Race can be used via your essays and how your race has played a role in your life. You just do not have the box checking so colleges that choose can increase diversity through essays.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has 3 types of instate applicants. Those with legacy connections, high stat NOVA kids looking for a solid safety and first timers and URMs looking to take advantage of emerging woke admissions policies.

Are you okay today? Do you need some deep breaths and a long bath? Because “high stats” NOVA kids do not consider UVA a safety. Legacy has been banned in VA publics. The Supreme Court has weighed in on using race, so there goes your notion about URM. As for first gen, what’s particularly “woke about that”. That benefits the white kid from Appalachia just as much as the inner city black kid.

So basically every point was completely misguided

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