Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 14:54     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Npr went from being a thoughtful, intelligent platform that was great for learning about nuanced topics to a whiny woke mouthpiece for obscure grievance politics. I'm totally sick of it and have moved on to podcasts.


+1 Amen


+2. Can you imagine Car Talk being green-lit today?

Yes
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 14:46     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Consider this viewpoint from a man who worked at NPR for 25 years:

https://www.allsides.com/news/2024-04-09-0723/media-bias-i-ve-been-npr-25-years-here-s-how-we-lost-america-s-trust

Do you agree with Uri Berliner’s view? Or is he wrong?


I don't think he's 100% wrong or 100% right here. I have issues with using the Hunter Biden laptop story as evidence of bias. He links to an opinion piece from The Hill as a source demonstrating NPR's bias and leaves out the entire reason news outlets beyond the NY Post didn't carry the story: It was an October surprise from the most dishonest President in history's team and the news outlets weren't provided the opportunity to examine the hard drive. And then he links to the Washington Post story and analysis of the hard drive (after they were provided access to it from a named Republican activist (sourcing!). And that story was far from a silver bullet - they could only actually authenticate less than 2% of the emails. I realize that's a long explanation, but context matters.

I think he's partially right on "wokeness," but it also comes across as just being aggrieved with changes. I don't know if he went to a very different unconscious bias training than I went to, but I found that very eye-opening. The rest is over the top.

Anyway, I think he brings up important and relevant points. I think he could have made his point without pulling in sources with their own bias.


Fact: Hunter Biden's laptop was real.

Fact: government officials aka "50 intelligence agents" pretended that it had all the hallmarks of Russian interference.

Fact: FBI officials led "hypothetical" training for media using a hypothetical laptop as Russian interference and telling media not to report on it in the name of misinformation.

Fact: this gave NPR and others the excuse to censor discussions about the laptop and it's contents, which have largely turned out to be true and few now deny Hunter B was playing some sort of cash for influence scheme, even if it was little more than bucks to have dinner with daddy.

Fact: this betrayed the notion of a responsible media and journalism and gave weight to what most people now accept, mainstream media is little more than the Democratic Party's mouthpiece. And, unfortunately, a substantial wing of high level government bureaucracy.

That is largely why people are voting for Orange Turnip.



Much of the content on the laptop was Hunter Biden's - but was all of it really his?

In their examinations, Green and Williams found evidence that people other than Hunter Biden had accessed the drive and written files to it, both before and after the initial stories in the New York Post and long after the laptop itself had been turned over to the FBI.

Maxey had alerted The Washington Post to this issue in advance, saying that others had accessed the data to examine its contents and make copies of files. But the lack of what experts call a “clean chain of custody” undermined Green’s and Williams’s ability to determine the authenticity of most of the drive’s contents.

“The drive is a mess,” Green said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/

Regardless, the laptop is irrelevant to Joe Biden. The story at this point should be why is Russia so eager to defeat Biden and why does the GOP continue to push Russian talking points.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 14:36     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am Republican and used to enjoy NPR. Since Covid it has become unlistenable.


Wow you just put on social media you are an idiot traitor to the US that likes Putin over the US.

No one is a Republican that party is gone period nadda nonexistent. What is left is Christian Nationalism crap and Putins puppets.




But in 2012 when Republican Mitt Romney answered that Russia was potentially our biggest geopolitical foe—Obama poked fun at this answer, quipping that the 80s called and want their foreign policy back.
Obama was quite chummy with Vlad.
So was Obama also a puppet? Or is he the puppeteer?
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 14:29     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Haven’t read the thread but the answer from
DCUM will be a resounding NO because the viewpoint bias aligns strongly with this site.

Why would the lefties on DCUM lose trust in an organization that, in its steady creep farther and farther left, basically serves to reinforce their own opinions while simultaneously classifying themselves as an unbiased news source? That’s the ultimate in confirmation bias.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 14:23     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Consider this viewpoint from a man who worked at NPR for 25 years:

https://www.allsides.com/news/2024-04-09-0723/media-bias-i-ve-been-npr-25-years-here-s-how-we-lost-america-s-trust

Do you agree with Uri Berliner’s view? Or is he wrong?


I don't think he's 100% wrong or 100% right here. I have issues with using the Hunter Biden laptop story as evidence of bias. He links to an opinion piece from The Hill as a source demonstrating NPR's bias and leaves out the entire reason news outlets beyond the NY Post didn't carry the story: It was an October surprise from the most dishonest President in history's team and the news outlets weren't provided the opportunity to examine the hard drive. And then he links to the Washington Post story and analysis of the hard drive (after they were provided access to it from a named Republican activist (sourcing!). And that story was far from a silver bullet - they could only actually authenticate less than 2% of the emails. I realize that's a long explanation, but context matters.

I think he's partially right on "wokeness," but it also comes across as just being aggrieved with changes. I don't know if he went to a very different unconscious bias training than I went to, but I found that very eye-opening. The rest is over the top.

Anyway, I think he brings up important and relevant points. I think he could have made his point without pulling in sources with their own bias.


Fact: Hunter Biden's laptop was real.

Fact: government officials aka "50 intelligence agents" pretended that it had all the hallmarks of Russian interference.

Fact: FBI officials led "hypothetical" training for media using a hypothetical laptop as Russian interference and telling media not to report on it in the name of misinformation.

Fact: this gave NPR and others the excuse to censor discussions about the laptop and it's contents, which have largely turned out to be true and few now deny Hunter B was playing some sort of cash for influence scheme, even if it was little more than bucks to have dinner with daddy.

Fact: this betrayed the notion of a responsible media and journalism and gave weight to what most people now accept, mainstream media is little more than the Democratic Party's mouthpiece. And, unfortunately, a substantial wing of high level government bureaucracy.

That is largely why people are voting for Orange Turnip.

Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 14:00     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people regardless of their political standing and preferred outlet feel the same the across the board


Nope.

I don’t find some of these posts credible. Some were made by people who clearly don’t listen.


1+. Agree. A gaggle of “I’m a card carrying Democrat but…” trolls.


Yup. Same recycled thread every few months. Yawn.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 13:29     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people regardless of their political standing and preferred outlet feel the same the across the board


Nope.

I don’t find some of these posts credible. Some were made by people who clearly don’t listen.


1+. Agree. A gaggle of “I’m a card carrying Democrat but…” trolls.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 13:22     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:I think people regardless of their political standing and preferred outlet feel the same the across the board


Nope.

I don’t find some of these posts credible. Some were made by people who clearly don’t listen.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 12:47     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Like virginity, once credibility is lost it's impossible to recover.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 12:37     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

I think people regardless of their political standing and preferred outlet feel the same the across the board
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 12:25     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:Npr went from being a thoughtful, intelligent platform that was great for learning about nuanced topics to a whiny woke mouthpiece for obscure grievance politics. I'm totally sick of it and have moved on to podcasts.



I completely agree with this. and I'm a liberal person who tends to align with people like Bernie Sanders/Marianne Williamson, and 15 years ago I listened to NPR non stop throughout the day. Now I find it embarrasing and limited to a dangerous degress. But I feel the same away about a lot of "progressive" circles in DC -- its become impossible to have a nuanced conversation.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 12:22     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:I still like NPR but they definitely don't love it as much as I did. Some programs are still interesting like WWDTM and others often feel like waste of time e.g Radio Lab.


Pete Sagal is so unbelievably annoying I can't believe WWDTM hasn't been canceled.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 12:17     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty conservative and a Trump voter. I used to listen to it in the car during carpool so I could get a wide variety of news. After Trump was elected, they spiraled into straight partisan opinion instead of balanced, fact-based human interest stories. I guess they thought it was their mandate, but I can't go along for the ride.


They routinely offer RWNJ viewpoints. Annoyingly so.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 12:16     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Totally twee reporting. I don’t love it, but I’m not good at finding new outlets and just a creature of habit. I listen to it in my car until I can’t stand it anymore.


But it's always been overly twee. Which is why I was never a heavy listener. Basically I only listened to Morning Edition, and I still listen to Morning Edition (and the occasional Fresh Air if they have an author of interest). Seems the same to me!

(Also the Hunter laptop story was and still is complete bullsh!t.)


+1

Anonymous
Post 04/10/2024 12:12     Subject: Has NPR lost America’s trust?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Npr went from being a thoughtful, intelligent platform that was great for learning about nuanced topics to a whiny woke mouthpiece for obscure grievance politics. I'm totally sick of it and have moved on to podcasts.


+1 Amen


+2. Can you imagine Car Talk being green-lit today?