Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick? Worth noting: student is in-state for Michigan tuition,
Majoring in engineering

Northwestern 100% , as long as you do not need large loans.
Many Engineers change course, especially at Mich. Northwestern is excellent across the board in all areas, Mich is not. Northwestern has national recognition. Mich is not really known outside of sports in some areas of the country, and has the reputation of a sports school not a smart-kid school.

Of all the crap I’ve seen on DCUM-this tops the scales. Michigan is top 10 in EVERYTHING under the sun while also offering a huge dose of fun-the DMV crowd just can’t stand a school that has it all!!

That’s because they’re stuck with public schools that are very good, but don’t have the across the board excellence of Thr University of Michigan.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say my kid is going to UMich and the undergrad math education is very tough. Majors have high math requirements and many students try and take math at community colleges to avoid the first two years of math—through linear algebra.

My kid is busy taking Nova CC classes to beef up on math.

If your kid is weak in math I would be careful about UMich.

Michigan math is unexceptional. Historically, the best math faculty has always been at Wisconsin. Walter Rudin, Stanislaw Ulam, R.H Bing were all members of the faculty.

It’s the Wisconsin booster again talking last century. Let’s see what USNWR has to say about Michigan mathematics:

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/mathematics-rankings

Michigan. #11

Wisconsin #16

Just another discipline where Michigan bests Wisconsin.

More results:

https://edurank.org/math/us/

Michigan #3

Wisconsin #14

I could go on and on, but it won’t change results.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick? Worth noting: student is in-state for Michigan tuition,
Majoring in engineering

Northwestern 100% , as long as you do not need large loans.
Many Engineers change course, especially at Mich. Northwestern is excellent across the board in all areas, Mich is not. Northwestern has national recognition. Mich is not really known outside of sports in some areas of the country, and has the reputation of a sports school not a smart-kid school.

Of all the crap I’ve seen on DCUM-this tops the scales. Michigan is top 10 in EVERYTHING under the sun while also offering a huge dose of fun-the DMV crowd just can’t stand a school that has it all!!

The idea that the engineering instruction at UMichigan is unequivocally better and somehow significantly superior than Northwestern is so misleading. Consider costs, of course, but at this level, the individual pros/cons of each school. Private/public, size of classes, research opportunities, post-grad opportunities and goals, et cetera.

There have got to be a bunch of Michigan parents on this board, it's getting ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:I would say my kid is going to UMich and the undergrad math education is very tough. Majors have high math requirements and many students try and take math at community colleges to avoid the first two years of math—through linear algebra.

My kid is busy taking Nova CC classes to beef up on math.

If your kid is weak in math I would be careful about UMich.

Michigan math is unexceptional. Historically, the best math faculty has always been at Wisconsin. Walter Rudin, Stanislaw Ulam, R.H Bing were all members of the faculty.

Wonder what credentials folks have in making choices to which school is “better”. Both Michigan and Northwestern are great. I chose UCLA over Michigan engineering (both accepted) due to instate cost. Then choose GaTech PhD in engineering vs Michigan phd engineering both accepted fully funded and stipend based on research i was interested. For undergrad go some there that gives you most opportunity for the cost and hopefully good job.

My DC is choosing from various engineering undergrad schools (northwestern, Cornell, gatech, uiuc, uva, etc) but I do prefer private vs big public. If you go solely on rankings you choose GaTech for engineering. My DC has Air Force rotc type 1 scholarship so cost is not an issue.

Most/all schools in the United States are top notch. Can’t go wrong with most of them unless they are for profit privates.

Michigan 100%

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick? Worth noting: student is in-state for Michigan tuition,
Majoring in engineering

Northwestern 100% , as long as you do not need large loans.
Many Engineers change course, especially at Mich. Northwestern is excellent across the board in all areas, Mich is not. Northwestern has national recognition. Mich is not really known outside of sports in some areas of the country, and has the reputation of a sports school not a smart-kid school.

An obvious troll post.

Anonymous wrote:DC is choosing between Northwestern vs Cornell engineering. About 400 enrolled first year engineering at Norhwestern vs 850 enrolled first year engineering at Cornell. I did my undergrad at UCLA in engineering. Classes are enormous and you are essentially a number that pays tuition. Hard to get research opportunities with professors. Most students eventually change major to traditional science or non stem because of the rigor. Going to private might give student opportunity to actually survive and finish the degree with professors help unlike in giant universities.

Michigan is a tier up from UCLA in Engineering. Bad comparison.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is the better school, and their undergrad engineering curriculum is great - whole brain engineering, as they’ve marketed it.

+1.
NW does Engineering like the ivies and Duke and Stanford. Michigan does not.

Correction. Michigan does Engineering like Stanford. NU does Engineering like the Ivies and Duke.

Michigan.

DC is choosing between Northwestern vs Cornell engineering. About 400 enrolled first year engineering at Norhwestern vs 850 enrolled first year engineering at Cornell. I did my undergrad at UCLA in engineering. Classes are enormous and you are essentially a number that pays tuition. Hard to get research opportunities with professors. Most students eventually change major to traditional science or non stem because of the rigor. Going to private might give student opportunity to actually survive and finish the degree with professors help unlike in giant universities.

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is the better school, and their undergrad engineering curriculum is great - whole brain engineering, as they’ve marketed it.

+1.
NW does Engineering like the ivies and Duke and Stanford. Michigan does not.

Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick? Worth noting: student is in-state for Michigan tuition,
Majoring in engineering

Northwestern 100% , as long as you do not need large loans.
Many Engineers change course, especially at Mich. Northwestern is excellent across the board in all areas, Mich is not. Northwestern has national recognition. Mich is not really known outside of sports in some areas of the country, and has the reputation of a sports school not a smart-kid school.

Anonymous wrote:Should also consider the quarter system versus the semester system, if that makes a difference to your kid.

It doesn’t really matter is OP is looking at Engineering. Michigan instate is the clear choice.