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Anonymous wrote:In the last 8 years, Barnard has had the same principal and has been at the same location. During that time, my reputable charter has been through 3-4 building changes, several principals, EDs and other admins. The test scores of the two schools are not that different. And much more favorable for Barnard given that they are working with a greater percent high risk population. In retrospect I’d take the stability of DCPS over my ups and downs at the charter school any day.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1110151.page

Most parents IB for Barnard disagree with you. Barnard has only 30% IB boundary participation rate.

That’s because the MS and HS are problematic so many parents move their kids out in later grades. We loved Barnard and hated to leave, but could not risk MacFarland and certainly not Roosevelt. We lotteried to a WOTP DCPS

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

This mistake is to send your kids to charters in elementary in hopes of a better middle school path. Your kids will be starting middle school with sub-par academics from their charter. You are better off getting a more solid education and experience at DCPS in elementary and then figuring out middle school when you get there through lottery etc. I’m not quite sure why people are discounting McFarland. The scores may reflect the population rather than academics and teaching quality of teachers. Everyone I’ve spoken to thinks well of teachers and principal.

Not a mistake at all. You don’t want be this poster:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1195044.page

Except that poster never says whether her DC is at a DCPS or a charter.

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Anonymous wrote:In the last 8 years, Barnard has had the same principal and has been at the same location. During that time, my reputable charter has been through 3-4 building changes, several principals, EDs and other admins. The test scores of the two schools are not that different. And much more favorable for Barnard given that they are working with a greater percent high risk population. In retrospect I’d take the stability of DCPS over my ups and downs at the charter school any day.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1110151.page

Most parents IB for Barnard disagree with you. Barnard has only 30% IB boundary participation rate.

That’s because the MS and HS are problematic so many parents move their kids out in later grades. We loved Barnard and hated to leave, but could not risk MacFarland and certainly not Roosevelt. We lotteried to a WOTP DCPS

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

This mistake is to send your kids to charters in elementary in hopes of a better middle school path. Your kids will be starting middle school with sub-par academics from their charter. You are better off getting a more solid education and experience at DCPS in elementary and then figuring out middle school when you get there through lottery etc. I’m not quite sure why people are discounting McFarland. The scores may reflect the population rather than academics and teaching quality of teachers. Everyone I’ve spoken to thinks well of teachers and principal.

Not a mistake at all. You don’t want be this poster:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1195044.page

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Anonymous wrote:In the last 8 years, Barnard has had the same principal and has been at the same location. During that time, my reputable charter has been through 3-4 building changes, several principals, EDs and other admins. The test scores of the two schools are not that different. And much more favorable for Barnard given that they are working with a greater percent high risk population. In retrospect I’d take the stability of DCPS over my ups and downs at the charter school any day.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1110151.page

Most parents IB for Barnard disagree with you. Barnard has only 30% IB boundary participation rate.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

This mistake is to send your kids to charters in elementary in hopes of a better middle school path. Your kids will be starting middle school with sub-par academics from their charter. You are better off getting a more solid education and experience at DCPS in elementary and then figuring out middle school when you get there through lottery etc. I’m not quite sure why people are discounting McFarland. The scores may reflect the population rather than academics and teaching quality of teachers. Everyone I’ve spoken to thinks well of teachers and principal.

Anonymous wrote:In the last 8 years, Barnard has had the same principal and has been at the same location. During that time, my reputable charter has been through 3-4 building changes, several principals, EDs and other admins. The test scores of the two schools are not that different. And much more favorable for Barnard given that they are working with a greater percent high risk population. In retrospect I’d take the stability of DCPS over my ups and downs at the charter school any day.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

This mistake is to send your kids to charters in elementary in hopes of a better middle school path. Your kids will be starting middle school with sub-par academics from their charter. You are better off getting a more solid education and experience at DCPS in elementary and then figuring out middle school when you get there through lottery etc. I’m not quite sure why people are discounting McFarland. The scores may reflect the population rather than academics and teaching quality of teachers. Everyone I’ve spoken to thinks well of teachers and principal.

Anonymous wrote:This is also a good point. The last large exodus at our school was at the end of 2022 before mortgage rates increased substantially. I think more families still here are despite the pandemic issues strongly considering staying in the city for middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

To actually answer this question, the IB middle and high schools are McKinley Middle and Dunbar, which are a no go for many people. However, between Latin, Latin Cooper, BASIS, ITS, DCI if you're into that (for the time being), Sojourner Truth if you're into that, and Stuart-Hobson, it's reasonable to think middle school will work out. People with younger kids are hopeful about the new Euclid St middle school, even if living OOB for it. For high school, there are the application schools, Truth if you're into that, a slim shot at Latin and Latin Cooper, and the possibility of MacArthur if you don't mind a long bus ride. So while the situation is definitely not great, it's also not terrible-- I think for preschool and lower elementary age kids, it's very reasonable to stay in the neighborhood for a few years and see what shakes out.

Last year was the first year I've noticed people willing to run the clock at Langley through 4th.

Sorry but you are naive and incorrect. Middle and high school seats at decent schools like are getting more and more competitive every year as more families come up the chain needing seats. More families are being locked out compared to a few years ago.

Forget DCI if you are not in a feeder. Latin and Basis you have a better chance but WL very long.

Truth so many families are looking to get out. SH still does not have the buy in from the best feeder elementary group EOTP (CH schools) and less but in since the pandemic.

Reality is that ECE families today will face even more intense competition in a few years.

If you luck out in the lottery, I would move by 1sr/2nd to good school pyramid

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One result of increased competition as more families stay in DC for upper grades is that more schools will become acceptable over time. The currently “acceptable” schools are not that way because they have much better teachers. If more schools started reflecting the demographics of their inbound populations because families couldn’t lottery out many more schools will start looking better. This is not going to help in neighborhoods where there is very concentrated poverty but there are many schools whose at risk populations are considerably higher than the inbound neighborhood.