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Anonymous wrote:This is such a common problem in many leagues. Our league is desperate for volunteer coaches because they keep leaving after a season or two. Why would they do that?

Because parents use them for free babysitting.

And can’t be bothered to get off their lazy duff and get away from their phone.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm confident the team is happy. As far as I can remember all of the kids returned last year and I expect they will this year too.
Someone on here can't stand Valor, but my experience is that most people at the club are happy.

It’s the crazy person who is obsessed with the filming incident at an rec all star tournament. They seem determined to badmouth CYA and Valor even though they’ve only had interactions with one CYA girls team.

I don’t doubt there is some of the usual BS and unhappy families in both CYA and Valor, but the way this poster keeps bringing up this one incident is disturbing. It makes me think they were probably giving off a creepy vibe and the parents didn’t want that around their daughters.

This whole thing is getting out of hand. It's clearly a war between two parties on DCUM. The filmers and the CYA girls team coach. They should just get lawyers and settle this in court instead of clogging up soccer message boards.

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I don't think the coach has posted. Its just one crazy CYA parent with a real axe to grind.

Naw, I've seen messages from both of you. You're both idiots. Go away.

Seriously, CYA parent, no one cares.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm confident the team is happy. As far as I can remember all of the kids returned last year and I expect they will this year too.
Someone on here can't stand Valor, but my experience is that most people at the club are happy.

It’s the crazy person who is obsessed with the filming incident at an rec all star tournament. They seem determined to badmouth CYA and Valor even though they’ve only had interactions with one CYA girls team.

I don’t doubt there is some of the usual BS and unhappy families in both CYA and Valor, but the way this poster keeps bringing up this one incident is disturbing. It makes me think they were probably giving off a creepy vibe and the parents didn’t want that around their daughters.

This whole thing is getting out of hand. It's clearly a war between two parties on DCUM. The filmers and the CYA girls team coach. They should just get lawyers and settle this in court instead of clogging up soccer message boards.

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I don't think the coach has posted. Its just one crazy CYA parent with a real axe to grind.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm confident the team is happy. As far as I can remember all of the kids returned last year and I expect they will this year too.
Someone on here can't stand Valor, but my experience is that most people at the club are happy.

That is interesting because one of the biggest complaints was that its impossible to make what parents think are the correct level team without leaving Valor, and you are confirming that by saying the whole team is returning two years in a row. I doubt its a low level team.

There are 30 pages dissing Valor, you think that is just one disgruntled parent?

It’s not exactly rocket science to understand why someone who feels their child wasn’t placed on the correct team would be unhappy, and someone who feels their child is on the correct team would be happy. There’s probably even people who know their kid isn’t that good but the kid is happy to be playing club soccer and they don’t mind paying the money. Assuming anything on DCUM is even close to a representative sample is not very smart.

Multiple parents have posted that their kid didn't make "X team" at Valor but then went to tryouts across town for a team that plays at equal or higher levels to "X" team and they made that team.

That's fairly typical though, one team might have slots or need CB's or a 9 and even though your DD is an good goalie, they aren't good enough to push out the current goalie on the team while a mediocre CB gets the offer since there's a spot.

The real reason is they don't want to move down paying customers because they will take their money elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm confident the team is happy. As far as I can remember all of the kids returned last year and I expect they will this year too.
Someone on here can't stand Valor, but my experience is that most people at the club are happy.

It’s the crazy person who is obsessed with the filming incident at an rec all star tournament. They seem determined to badmouth CYA and Valor even though they’ve only had interactions with one CYA girls team.

I don’t doubt there is some of the usual BS and unhappy families in both CYA and Valor, but the way this poster keeps bringing up this one incident is disturbing. It makes me think they were probably giving off a creepy vibe and the parents didn’t want that around their daughters.

This whole thing is getting out of hand. It's clearly a war between two parties on DCUM. The filmers and the CYA girls team coach. They should just get lawyers and settle this in court instead of clogging up soccer message boards.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm confident the team is happy. As far as I can remember all of the kids returned last year and I expect they will this year too.
Someone on here can't stand Valor, but my experience is that most people at the club are happy.

That is interesting because one of the biggest complaints was that its impossible to make what parents think are the correct level team without leaving Valor, and you are confirming that by saying the whole team is returning two years in a row. I doubt its a low level team.

There are 30 pages dissing Valor, you think that is just one disgruntled parent?

It’s not exactly rocket science to understand why someone who feels their child wasn’t placed on the correct team would be unhappy, and someone who feels their child is on the correct team would be happy. There’s probably even people who know their kid isn’t that good but the kid is happy to be playing club soccer and they don’t mind paying the money. Assuming anything on DCUM is even close to a representative sample is not very smart.

Multiple parents have posted that their kid didn't make "X team" at Valor but then went to tryouts across town for a team that plays at equal or higher levels to "X" team and they made that team.

That's fairly typical though, one team might have slots or need CB's or a 9 and even though your DD is an good goalie, they aren't good enough to push out the current goalie on the team while a mediocre CB gets the offer since there's a spot.

Kids can also have off days at tryouts, or things can click and they get better quickly. Development isn’t linear. And if a kid is incorrectly placed, in order to move them you have a kick a kid currently on that team out of their spot. Coaches are reluctant to do that midseason because then they have to deal with parents of that other kid being upset. My child got moved up to a top team midseason at a different club. Another kid from the top team got moved down. Once my child was on the higher team, I could see that they probably should have been moved there a lot sooner. My child was a starter and got a ton of playing time right off the bat. When the coach of the old team let us know about the move, he made it sound like he’d been pushing the higher team coach to make the move for a while. I imagine it’s even harder to jump multiple levels if initially placed on a third or fourth team. Team placement should be very fluid at the early age groups, and this should be communicated to parents so they have realistic expectations. But we all know how parents get with these things.

Our rec soccer org is run by volunteers, but there are also paid employees and I personally think that is the worst of both worlds. The paid employees make decisions based on making as much money as possible (really high fees, enormous rosters, crowded practice fields, keep registering kids without having enough coaches etc) then find a bunch of volunteers to deal with the mess.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm confident the team is happy. As far as I can remember all of the kids returned last year and I expect they will this year too.
Someone on here can't stand Valor, but my experience is that most people at the club are happy.

That is interesting because one of the biggest complaints was that its impossible to make what parents think are the correct level team without leaving Valor, and you are confirming that by saying the whole team is returning two years in a row. I doubt its a low level team.

There are 30 pages dissing Valor, you think that is just one disgruntled parent?

It’s not exactly rocket science to understand why someone who feels their child wasn’t placed on the correct team would be unhappy, and someone who feels their child is on the correct team would be happy. There’s probably even people who know their kid isn’t that good but the kid is happy to be playing club soccer and they don’t mind paying the money. Assuming anything on DCUM is even close to a representative sample is not very smart.

Multiple parents have posted that their kid didn't make "X team" at Valor but then went to tryouts across town for a team that plays at equal or higher levels to "X" team and they made that team.

That's fairly typical though, one team might have slots or need CB's or a 9 and even though your DD is an good goalie, they aren't good enough to push out the current goalie on the team while a mediocre CB gets the offer since there's a spot.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm confident the team is happy. As far as I can remember all of the kids returned last year and I expect they will this year too.
Someone on here can't stand Valor, but my experience is that most people at the club are happy.

That is interesting because one of the biggest complaints was that its impossible to make what parents think are the correct level team without leaving Valor, and you are confirming that by saying the whole team is returning two years in a row. I doubt its a low level team.

There are 30 pages dissing Valor, you think that is just one disgruntled parent?

It’s not exactly rocket science to understand why someone who feels their child wasn’t placed on the correct team would be unhappy, and someone who feels their child is on the correct team would be happy. There’s probably even people who know their kid isn’t that good but the kid is happy to be playing club soccer and they don’t mind paying the money. Assuming anything on DCUM is even close to a representative sample is not very smart.

Multiple parents have posted that their kid didn't make "X team" at Valor but then went to tryouts across town for a team that plays at equal or higher levels to "X" team and they made that team.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm confident the team is happy. As far as I can remember all of the kids returned last year and I expect they will this year too.
Someone on here can't stand Valor, but my experience is that most people at the club are happy.

That is interesting because one of the biggest complaints was that its impossible to make what parents think are the correct level team without leaving Valor, and you are confirming that by saying the whole team is returning two years in a row. I doubt its a low level team.

There are 30 pages dissing Valor, you think that is just one disgruntled parent?

It’s not exactly rocket science to understand why someone who feels their child wasn’t placed on the correct team would be unhappy, and someone who feels their child is on the correct team would be happy. There’s probably even people who know their kid isn’t that good but the kid is happy to be playing club soccer and they don’t mind paying the money. Assuming anything on DCUM is even close to a representative sample is not very smart.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is such a common problem in many leagues. Our league is desperate for volunteer coaches because they keep leaving after a season or two. Why would they do that?

I work in the athletics industry and leagues always need parent volunteers.

Thank you for this deep dive into the Athletics Industry. Wow, what insight.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm confident the team is happy. As far as I can remember all of the kids returned last year and I expect they will this year too.
Someone on here can't stand Valor, but my experience is that most people at the club are happy.

That is interesting because one of the biggest complaints was that its impossible to make what parents think are the correct level team without leaving Valor, and you are confirming that by saying the whole team is returning two years in a row. I doubt its a low level team.

There are 30 pages dissing Valor, you think that is just one disgruntled parent?

Anonymous wrote:This is such a common problem in many leagues. Our league is desperate for volunteer coaches because they keep leaving after a season or two. Why would they do that?

I work in the athletics industry and leagues always need parent volunteers.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm confident the team is happy. As far as I can remember all of the kids returned last year and I expect they will this year too.
Someone on here can't stand Valor, but my experience is that most people at the club are happy.

It’s the crazy person who is obsessed with the filming incident at an rec all star tournament. They seem determined to badmouth CYA and Valor even though they’ve only had interactions with one CYA girls team.

I don’t doubt there is some of the usual BS and unhappy families in both CYA and Valor, but the way this poster keeps bringing up this one incident is disturbing. It makes me think they were probably giving off a creepy vibe and the parents didn’t want that around their daughters.