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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes DC schools are so bad it is almost mind bending.

During the 2022-2023 school year, ONE THIRD of all ninth graders in Washington DC skipped more than 30 percent of the ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR. 60 PERCENT of all students missed at least 10 percent of all school days.

Chronic absenteeism became a major problem during the absurdly long school closures here during the pandemic (thanks WTU!) and, if anything, seems to be getting worse.

The norm of kids going to school each day isn't the norm anymore.


https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/dc-fiscal-future-in-education/#:~:text=By%20fiscal%20year%202024%2C%20the,9%20percent%20during%20this%20period.

Besides above, what middle or high school do you know where 90% or greater of the kids are not on grade level such as math. It’s just unbelievable and astounding that this is acceptable, continues every year, and the schools continue to function and be opened with the status quo.

What on earth are you talking about. Poolsville, Whitman, and McLean are three examples of high schools where less than 90% of students score proficient on their state’s math proficiency exam. You are calling for the total shut down of all public high schools everywhere.

Also? This really is one of those things that, in OP’s phrase, “some other person should sue DCPS for.” The average SAT score for white kids in DCPS is higher than the average SAT score for white kids nationally. Judging by white kids only, DCPS is an excellent school system. Whether you know it or not, what you’re mad about is the racial achievement gap. And the people on the winning side of that gap can’t exactly sue about it.

So you’re saying we shouldn’t care about how horribly DCPS does with black kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Unequal access to immersion programs due to it primarily being based on an address.

Yes

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC Spanish classes consist of watching videos with minimal teacher instruction. Perhaps not a legal issue per se but still unsettling to hear since Sept this year.

Screen time in class is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:Our DC Spanish classes consist of watching videos with minimal teacher instruction. Perhaps not a legal issue per se but still unsettling to hear since Sept this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools are extremely well funded here and yet even the very best schools are only just fine (and the bad schools are so bad they look more like jobs programs for their employees than places for kids to learn).

Schools are decently funded, not well. Just because we spend a lot per pupil does not mean we are well funded. Salaries in general are higher here, this every teacher, social worker, music teacher, etc. costs more.

If you want better schools you should look at how the countries getting results teach. Students actually have LESS hours of direct instruction and both students AND teachers spend more time collaborating with peers. However here in US for some reason more is ‘better’ and teaching has also become babysitting. If your child is disruptive in other countries it’s not as acceptable as it is here.

We don’t need to look abroad. You can look just about anywhere else in this country. Our students are outscored on proficiency tests by kids in Mississippi. DC schools are uniquely bad.

You are comparing an entire state to one city. I bet if you just looked at city-to-city comparisons only you will get a different picture.

I am not trying to say DC schools are fine...they aren't...but let's at least do apples-to-apples comparisons.

You think poorly funded schools in the middle of nowhere Mississippi have some unfair advantage over DC schools?

You can see how bad DC is here, per the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/24/us/math-reading-scores-pandemic.html

Again, you provided state wide results…there are of course many well-funded suburban schools in every state including Mississippi, with high test scores.

The only fair comparison is urban school district vs urban school district.

To repeat…I don’t think DC schools are good but you can’t use just a city school district compared to an entire state for a true comparison.

I mean, you can use any metric you like sweetie. The answer is still the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools are extremely well funded here and yet even the very best schools are only just fine (and the bad schools are so bad they look more like jobs programs for their employees than places for kids to learn).

Schools are decently funded, not well. Just because we spend a lot per pupil does not mean we are well funded. Salaries in general are higher here, this every teacher, social worker, music teacher, etc. costs more.

If you want better schools you should look at how the countries getting results teach. Students actually have LESS hours of direct instruction and both students AND teachers spend more time collaborating with peers. However here in US for some reason more is ‘better’ and teaching has also become babysitting. If your child is disruptive in other countries it’s not as acceptable as it is here.

We don’t need to look abroad. You can look just about anywhere else in this country. Our students are outscored on proficiency tests by kids in Mississippi. DC schools are uniquely bad.

You are comparing an entire state to one city. I bet if you just looked at city-to-city comparisons only you will get a different picture.

I am not trying to say DC schools are fine...they aren't...but let's at least do apples-to-apples comparisons.

You think poorly funded schools in the middle of nowhere Mississippi have some unfair advantage over DC schools?

You can see how bad DC is here, per the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/24/us/math-reading-scores-pandemic.html

Again, you provided state wide results…there are of course many well-funded suburban schools in every state including Mississippi, with high test scores.

The only fair comparison is urban school district vs urban school district.

To repeat…I don’t think DC schools are good but you can’t use just a city school district compared to an entire state for a true comparison.

I mean, you can use any metric you like sweetie. The answer is still the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools are extremely well funded here and yet even the very best schools are only just fine (and the bad schools are so bad they look more like jobs programs for their employees than places for kids to learn).

Schools are decently funded, not well. Just because we spend a lot per pupil does not mean we are well funded. Salaries in general are higher here, this every teacher, social worker, music teacher, etc. costs more.

If you want better schools you should look at how the countries getting results teach. Students actually have LESS hours of direct instruction and both students AND teachers spend more time collaborating with peers. However here in US for some reason more is ‘better’ and teaching has also become babysitting. If your child is disruptive in other countries it’s not as acceptable as it is here.

We don’t need to look abroad. You can look just about anywhere else in this country. Our students are outscored on proficiency tests by kids in Mississippi. DC schools are uniquely bad.

You are comparing an entire state to one city. I bet if you just looked at city-to-city comparisons only you will get a different picture.

I am not trying to say DC schools are fine...they aren't...but let's at least do apples-to-apples comparisons.

You think poorly funded schools in the middle of nowhere Mississippi have some unfair advantage over DC schools?

You can see how bad DC is here, per the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/24/us/math-reading-scores-pandemic.html

Again, you provided state wide results…there are of course many well-funded suburban schools in every state including Mississippi, with high test scores.

The only fair comparison is urban school district vs urban school district.

To repeat…I don’t think DC schools are good but you can’t use just a city school district compared to an entire state for a true comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes DC schools are so bad it is almost mind bending.

During the 2022-2023 school year, ONE THIRD of all ninth graders in Washington DC skipped more than 30 percent of the ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR. 60 PERCENT of all students missed at least 10 percent of all school days.

Chronic absenteeism became a major problem during the absurdly long school closures here during the pandemic (thanks WTU!) and, if anything, seems to be getting worse.

The norm of kids going to school each day isn't the norm anymore.


https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/dc-fiscal-future-in-education/#:~:text=By%20fiscal%20year%202024%2C%20the,9%20percent%20during%20this%20period.

Besides above, what middle or high school do you know where 90% or greater of the kids are not on grade level such as math. It’s just unbelievable and astounding that this is acceptable, continues every year, and the schools continue to function and be opened with the status quo.

What on earth are you talking about. Poolsville, Whitman, and McLean are three examples of high schools where less than 90% of students score proficient on their state’s math proficiency exam. You are calling for the total shut down of all public high schools everywhere.

Also? This really is one of those things that, in OP’s phrase, “some other person should sue DCPS for.” The average SAT score for white kids in DCPS is higher than the average SAT score for white kids nationally. Judging by white kids only, DCPS is an excellent school system. Whether you know it or not, what you’re mad about is the racial achievement gap. And the people on the winning side of that gap can’t exactly sue about it.

90% of the kids at Whitman and McClean are not on grade level? May need to reread what PP wrote.

Yes, less than 90% of students at Whitman and McLean scored proficient in math on their respective state assessments, according to the numbers published in the US News high school rankings.

Oh, you want the other way. Regardless, the solution to this statistical problem is racial integration. And DCUM is not exactly the place to find plaintiffs willing to sue DCPS to establish court-ordered racial integration policies just to ensure that all schools reach some statistical benchmark.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes DC schools are so bad it is almost mind bending.

During the 2022-2023 school year, ONE THIRD of all ninth graders in Washington DC skipped more than 30 percent of the ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR. 60 PERCENT of all students missed at least 10 percent of all school days.

Chronic absenteeism became a major problem during the absurdly long school closures here during the pandemic (thanks WTU!) and, if anything, seems to be getting worse.

The norm of kids going to school each day isn't the norm anymore.


https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/dc-fiscal-future-in-education/#:~:text=By%20fiscal%20year%202024%2C%20the,9%20percent%20during%20this%20period.

Besides above, what middle or high school do you know where 90% or greater of the kids are not on grade level such as math. It’s just unbelievable and astounding that this is acceptable, continues every year, and the schools continue to function and be opened with the status quo.

What on earth are you talking about. Poolsville, Whitman, and McLean are three examples of high schools where less than 90% of students score proficient on their state’s math proficiency exam. You are calling for the total shut down of all public high schools everywhere.

Also? This really is one of those things that, in OP’s phrase, “some other person should sue DCPS for.” The average SAT score for white kids in DCPS is higher than the average SAT score for white kids nationally. Judging by white kids only, DCPS is an excellent school system. Whether you know it or not, what you’re mad about is the racial achievement gap. And the people on the winning side of that gap can’t exactly sue about it.

So you’re saying we shouldn’t care about how horribly DCPS does with black kids?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes DC schools are so bad it is almost mind bending.

During the 2022-2023 school year, ONE THIRD of all ninth graders in Washington DC skipped more than 30 percent of the ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR. 60 PERCENT of all students missed at least 10 percent of all school days.

Chronic absenteeism became a major problem during the absurdly long school closures here during the pandemic (thanks WTU!) and, if anything, seems to be getting worse.

The norm of kids going to school each day isn't the norm anymore.


https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/dc-fiscal-future-in-education/#:~:text=By%20fiscal%20year%202024%2C%20the,9%20percent%20during%20this%20period.

Besides above, what middle or high school do you know where 90% or greater of the kids are not on grade level such as math. It’s just unbelievable and astounding that this is acceptable, continues every year, and the schools continue to function and be opened with the status quo.

What on earth are you talking about. Poolsville, Whitman, and McLean are three examples of high schools where less than 90% of students score proficient on their state’s math proficiency exam. You are calling for the total shut down of all public high schools everywhere.

Also? This really is one of those things that, in OP’s phrase, “some other person should sue DCPS for.” The average SAT score for white kids in DCPS is higher than the average SAT score for white kids nationally. Judging by white kids only, DCPS is an excellent school system. Whether you know it or not, what you’re mad about is the racial achievement gap. And the people on the winning side of that gap can’t exactly sue about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools are extremely well funded here and yet even the very best schools are only just fine (and the bad schools are so bad they look more like jobs programs for their employees than places for kids to learn).

Schools are decently funded, not well. Just because we spend a lot per pupil does not mean we are well funded. Salaries in general are higher here, this every teacher, social worker, music teacher, etc. costs more.

If you want better schools you should look at how the countries getting results teach. Students actually have LESS hours of direct instruction and both students AND teachers spend more time collaborating with peers. However here in US for some reason more is ‘better’ and teaching has also become babysitting. If your child is disruptive in other countries it’s not as acceptable as it is here.

We don’t need to look abroad. You can look just about anywhere else in this country. Our students are outscored on proficiency tests by kids in Mississippi. DC schools are uniquely bad.

You are comparing an entire state to one city. I bet if you just looked at city-to-city comparisons only you will get a different picture.

I am not trying to say DC schools are fine...they aren't...but let's at least do apples-to-apples comparisons.

You think poorly funded schools in the middle of nowhere Mississippi have some unfair advantage over DC schools?

You can see how bad DC is here, per the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/24/us/math-reading-scores-pandemic.html

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes DC schools are so bad it is almost mind bending.

During the 2022-2023 school year, ONE THIRD of all ninth graders in Washington DC skipped more than 30 percent of the ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR. 60 PERCENT of all students missed at least 10 percent of all school days.

Chronic absenteeism became a major problem during the absurdly long school closures here during the pandemic (thanks WTU!) and, if anything, seems to be getting worse.

The norm of kids going to school each day isn't the norm anymore.


https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/dc-fiscal-future-in-education/#:~:text=By%20fiscal%20year%202024%2C%20the,9%20percent%20during%20this%20period.

Besides above, what middle or high school do you know where 90% or greater of the kids are not on grade level such as math. It’s just unbelievable and astounding that this is acceptable, continues every year, and the schools continue to function and be opened with the status quo.

What on earth are you talking about. Poolsville, Whitman, and McLean are three examples of high schools where less than 90% of students score proficient on their state’s math proficiency exam. You are calling for the total shut down of all public high schools everywhere.

Also? This really is one of those things that, in OP’s phrase, “some other person should sue DCPS for.” The average SAT score for white kids in DCPS is higher than the average SAT score for white kids nationally. Judging by white kids only, DCPS is an excellent school system. Whether you know it or not, what you’re mad about is the racial achievement gap. And the people on the winning side of that gap can’t exactly sue about it.

90% of the kids at Whitman and McClean are not on grade level? May need to reread what PP wrote.

Yes, less than 90% of students at Whitman and McLean scored proficient in math on their respective state assessments, according to the numbers published in the US News high school rankings.