Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:11
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Strange take. It’s not normal to call your dil a sad sack, even if she were one. Whether op is insecure or not doesn’t change the fact it was a nasty comment to make.
It was not a nice comment, I agree. If she's concerned with her sons financial health (which is debatable if its even her business) she should have asked in a different way.
Actually it isn’t debatable. It is NOT her business.
If she's funding part of it it could certainly be.
What gave you the impression the mil is funding anything? Do you depend on your in laws financially?!
I'm the OP. We don't depend on them at all. They have a troubled son who has been in and out of expensive rehabs and has drained a lot of their money, actually.
Wow, and you don't think they might be concerned when they see their other son dropping from 2 incomes to 1 as a potential issue? Do you always have this much contempt for your partners parents?
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:10
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DH makes enough money for me not to work right now. I quit a job that I hated last year and haven't looked for a new one. My kids are in school all day now. I'm enjoying for the first time in 20 years a chance to just decompress.
Over the weekend, my ILs came over to babysit. My MIL, half-jokingly, asked me when I was going to stop "sitting around like a sadsack." I don't know if she thinks I'm depressed and that's why I don't work or what, but it was really offensive and caught me off guard in the moment. As background - she is a retired lawyer and so is her husband. She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
I sat with it for a few days and then emailed her to say that I was hurt by her remarks and that I'm enjoying some much-needed time off.
She hasn't responded yet but I'm still fuming. My DH said he understood my feelings but that working and ambition is very important to his mother, she worked hard to get where she was and that's where she was coming from.
My MIL is not on this forum I don't think (she's way too busy for that) so here I am venting about it...
We don't know why she said that or what she meant or what she is worried about.
I hope you two go out for coffee or tea and discuss it.
She might be a good professional sounding board, on the previous toxic workplace and have ideas for next job or employer. If she's not then keep things high level, mentioned the high turnover at previous place and that you're regrouping for 6+ mos. BFD. Happens all the time in the tech industry, all genders. (and I do mean all).
Is your spouse OK with being primary income person? stable job or volatile bonuses?
OP doesn’t have to explain herself.
Of course not. But she's the one who came on here and expected everyone to jump on the MILs are horrible bandwagon. (I am not a MIL, and my DH's mother died before we met, so never had a MIL, so no horse in this race.) So people are pushing back.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:09
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Hi! I'm the OP and feel good about my choice, but not great about someone calling me a sadsack. It was inappropriate and has nothing to do with how I feel about not working.
Do you? Why did you get so defensive then? Why did you stew over it and send an email much later? Why are you still "fuming"?
If you felt secure this would be water off a ducks back. Sorry but your reaction and the way you phrase your OP say otherwise.
Don’t listen to these fools, OP. DCUM is not known to attract those with social acumen (or human emotions).
I wouldn’t have written in the email. Instead I would have given some flippant reply about stringing along my unemployment until DH’s inheritance comes through, so she’d better keep working and saving because I have champagne taste, or something along those lines.
At least some of us can read. MIL is retired.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:07
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Hi! I'm the OP and feel good about my choice, but not great about someone calling me a sadsack. It was inappropriate and has nothing to do with how I feel about not working.
What you aren't answering is how does DH feel about it? Only then can we determine where this is coming from. I mean, to me this screams DH is talking to his mom about it.
He encouraged it and is delighted. I was never home before and always stressed. He barely speaks to his mother.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:07
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Strange take. It’s not normal to call your dil a sad sack, even if she were one. Whether op is insecure or not doesn’t change the fact it was a nasty comment to make.
It was not a nice comment, I agree. If she's concerned with her sons financial health (which is debatable if its even her business) she should have asked in a different way.
Actually it isn’t debatable. It is NOT her business.
If she's funding part of it it could certainly be.
What gave you the impression the mil is funding anything? Do you depend on your in laws financially?!
PP on the previous page asked about 529s, retirement etc.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:05
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DH makes enough money for me not to work right now. I quit a job that I hated last year and haven't looked for a new one. My kids are in school all day now. I'm enjoying for the first time in 20 years a chance to just decompress.
Over the weekend, my ILs came over to babysit. My MIL, half-jokingly, asked me when I was going to stop "sitting around like a sadsack." I don't know if she thinks I'm depressed and that's why I don't work or what, but it was really offensive and caught me off guard in the moment. As background - she is a retired lawyer and so is her husband. She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
I sat with it for a few days and then emailed her to say that I was hurt by her remarks and that I'm enjoying some much-needed time off.
She hasn't responded yet but I'm still fuming. My DH said he understood my feelings but that working and ambition is very important to his mother, she worked hard to get where she was and that's where she was coming from.
My MIL is not on this forum I don't think (she's way too busy for that) so here I am venting about it...
We don't know why she said that or what she meant or what she is worried about.
I hope you two go out for coffee or tea and discuss it.
She might be a good professional sounding board, on the previous toxic workplace and have ideas for next job or employer. If she's not then keep things high level, mentioned the high turnover at previous place and that you're regrouping for 6+ mos. BFD. Happens all the time in the tech industry, all genders. (and I do mean all).
Is your spouse OK with being primary income person? stable job or volatile bonuses?
OP doesn’t have to explain herself.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:05
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Hi! I'm the OP and feel good about my choice, but not great about someone calling me a sadsack. It was inappropriate and has nothing to do with how I feel about not working.
What you aren't answering is how does DH feel about it? Only then can we determine where this is coming from. I mean, to me this screams DH is talking to his mom about it.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:03
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Hi! I'm the OP and feel good about my choice, but not great about someone calling me a sadsack. It was inappropriate and has nothing to do with how I feel about not working.
Do you? Why did you get so defensive then? Why did you stew over it and send an email much later? Why are you still "fuming"?
If you felt secure this would be water off a ducks back. Sorry but your reaction and the way you phrase your OP say otherwise.
I got defensive because I was called a sadsack and it was inappropriate. I would tell my kids not to call other people names. It's impolite.
It's normal to get defensive when someone so clearly attacks you and your character. Which is exactly what your MIL did.
In 2 years she'll be writing in wondering why her DIL has been so "frosty" to her the last few years and why she isn't given more respect. It's always the same with older women like this. They want to be able to punch everyone else down emotionally while suffering no repercussions because we should "respect our elders".
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:03
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
NEVER give someone like that satisfaction by sending such an email.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:03
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Hi! I'm the OP and feel good about my choice, but not great about someone calling me a sadsack. It was inappropriate and has nothing to do with how I feel about not working.
Do you? Why did you get so defensive then? Why did you stew over it and send an email much later? Why are you still "fuming"?
If you felt secure this would be water off a ducks back. Sorry but your reaction and the way you phrase your OP say otherwise.
I got defensive because I was called a sadsack and it was inappropriate. I would tell my kids not to call other people names. It's impolite.
So if she said your hair looked brassy and when are you going to get it fixed you'd stew over it and then send a nasty email?
Doubt it.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:03
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
As a person who SAHMed for years, I discourage young women to do that. Not unsolicited advice but when asked for input. Times have changed. Marriages and career both are unreliable and you need to stay independent and on track.
However, your MIL's input was uncalled for. It's none of her business. She can have opinions but you don't need to receive them. You did nothing wrong by expressing your opinion of her opinion. It's better than resenting her for that and to remind her of respecting your autonomy and boundaries. Now forget it and make your decisions based on how you want to live your life, not how your MIL wants you to live.
However, your MIL's input was uncalled for. It's none of her business. She can have opinions but you don't need to receive them. You did nothing wrong by expressing your opinion of her opinion. It's better than resenting her for that and to remind her of respecting your autonomy and boundaries. Now forget it and make your decisions based on how you want to live your life, not how your MIL wants you to live.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:02
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Hi! I'm the OP and feel good about my choice, but not great about someone calling me a sadsack. It was inappropriate and has nothing to do with how I feel about not working.
Do you? Why did you get so defensive then? Why did you stew over it and send an email much later? Why are you still "fuming"?
If you felt secure this would be water off a ducks back. Sorry but your reaction and the way you phrase your OP say otherwise.
Don’t listen to these fools, OP. DCUM is not known to attract those with social acumen (or human emotions).
I wouldn’t have written in the email. Instead I would have given some flippant reply about stringing along my unemployment until DH’s inheritance comes through, so she’d better keep working and saving because I have champagne taste, or something along those lines.
OP stated MIL is retired.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:01
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Strange take. It’s not normal to call your dil a sad sack, even if she were one. Whether op is insecure or not doesn’t change the fact it was a nasty comment to make.
It was not a nice comment, I agree. If she's concerned with her sons financial health (which is debatable if its even her business) she should have asked in a different way.
Actually it isn’t debatable. It is NOT her business.
If she's funding part of it it could certainly be.
What gave you the impression the mil is funding anything? Do you depend on your in laws financially?!
I'm the OP. We don't depend on them at all. They have a troubled son who has been in and out of expensive rehabs and has drained a lot of their money, actually.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:01
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Strange take. It’s not normal to call your dil a sad sack, even if she were one. Whether op is insecure or not doesn’t change the fact it was a nasty comment to make.
It was not a nice comment, I agree. If she's concerned with her sons financial health (which is debatable if its even her business) she should have asked in a different way.
Actually it isn’t debatable. It is NOT her business.
If she's funding part of it it could certainly be.
NP. Wow, reach much? Show me where in the OP that MIL funds any part of their life. Should we assume that because that is your knee-jerk response that Mommy and Daddy or MIL/FIL subsidize your life? Some of us are grown, independent adults who pay for our own houses, vehicles, schools, etc. Just so you know.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:01
Subject: My mother-in-law called me a "sadsack"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all this, I wonder what DH's opinion is. It doesn't sound like OP is ever going back to work, and taking time to decompress is just a way of saying she's done. Has DH actually discussed this with his mom and she's being the bad guy for him? Where does their retirement savings stand? 529s? And God forbid if the ILs helped fund 529s or anything else for them if now DIL is not working.
Is it any of MIL's business? No. But there is basically some information missing here.
I agree. Lol @ OP calling it "Decompressing" and not working "right now". She can't even own her situation and tries to minimize it.
Also to point out: She worked all the time and values that in a person so I imagine my choosing not to work is foreign and lazy for her to comprehend.
This is really it. She just cant comprehend it.
I think you're reading a lot into this situation. She can't even "own" her situation! Why does anyone need to? LIVE AND LET LIVE BAYBEEEEEEE
She literally stewed about this and then sent a nasty email to MIL LOL
Shes very insecure about it. Women who are happy with their choices dont do that. Dont feel the need to do that. Shes lying to herself and an anon forum even in her OP. It's really sad, because she has a great situation IMO.
Strange take. It’s not normal to call your dil a sad sack, even if she were one. Whether op is insecure or not doesn’t change the fact it was a nasty comment to make.
OP's MIL has contempt for her and feels comfortable expressing that openly and directly.
OP wants MIL to be someone who cares about her and her feelings. MIL is not and never will be that person.
$ is a separate issue. It is an extremely derogatory way to describe how you see a close family member and to state it in front of others, to your face, says a LOT about MIL.
I would limit time with the kids, they don't need that kind of role model or to be teed up to be excoriated if they don't meet her approval.