Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can see the max salary of a 10 month teacher is $131k. I’m not sure most teachers are on the PhD scale.
Also, what 3 months don’t teachers work? 😂
The max teacher salary is $146k
https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
Yes, but most jobs you think of as “teacher” are 10 month positions. The $146k is for 12 month positions.
Anonymous wrote:DCPS teachers are not only extremely well paid, they also get pensions, unlike virtually all other city employees (and unlike basically all private sector employees). They can retire with full benefits at 55! It's an amazing deal.
It just sucks that we couldn't reserve high pay for high performing teachers, given how terrible (generally speaking) DC schools are.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We just got our school budget. Our librarian makes $140k. Most teachers make about $130k and they work for 9 months per year and they get a pension.
I am happy for them but people have to stop with pressuring parents to give them gift cards, valentine presents and all the talk about them not being well paid.
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This is not valid in other states. I am just talking about DCPS and probably DC metro and other big cities.
That’s it 🙂
Yup. I have 20 years experience and am in a senior role at my large nonprofit and make $126. We have had some lovely, lovely teachers and assistants when my kids were at a title 1 elementary, and I was generous with the gifts. But I no longer go overboard or give gifts to individual teachers in middle and hs. They are professionals!
Do you get $126 gross pay, or is $126 allocated for your salary, any benefits your company employer pays, subs if you are absent etc . . .?
Because a line item in a budget is not a salary.
If 126k is allocated for a teacher, approximately what is their actual salary (pre-tax)?
Someone posted a chart. When I used to do a budget for a charter school I was told that of every dollar allocated for a position I could offer 60% in salary and the rest would go to training/PD, subs to cover sick leave and professional coverage (e.g. sub for IEP meeting) and benefits.
Someone else here posted that a 27% figure. I wasn’t sure if that person was in education. But anyway, that comes to 75K to 90K. Which is probably about right.
Anonymous wrote:DCPS teachers are not only extremely well paid, they also get pensions, unlike virtually all other city employees (and unlike basically all private sector employees). They can retire with full benefits at 55! It's an amazing deal.
It just sucks that we couldn't reserve high pay for high performing teachers, given how terrible (generally speaking) DC schools are.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Keep your gift cards. Send your kids to school on time, engaged, and excited about learning. Ask the mayor to ensure I don’t have to spend my own money on things like copy paper, Kleenex, and expo markers.
Ensure your students don’t lose their tablets or chargers so that they can actually do work on Canvas. Stop texting and calling your kids during class. Ask the principal to provide and mandate cell phone locker usage so I don’t have to request that phones are put away multiple times during class. Teach your children to be respectful and not cursing like sailors. Stop your kids from skipping class and roaming the halls. Think about the grading policy and how it removes student accountability and the way it sets them up for failure in the future.
I don’t mind my salary because I know teachers in surrounding cities make much less. Here’s a thought, if we are so overpaid, why are there so many teacher vacancies at many schools? Five teachers have left my school since the start of the school year and I know of at least four more (including me) who don’t plan to return.
Yea I don't think your audience is here on dcum. But nice try.
Anonymous wrote:It's really a shame that the post about school funding being cut and schools losing teacher positions has barely registered, but parents have no trouble going on for six pages about how teachers are overpaid.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can see the max salary of a 10 month teacher is $131k. I’m not sure most teachers are on the PhD scale.
Also, what 3 months don’t teachers work? 😂
The max teacher salary is $146k
https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
So most teachers are paid around $80k-ish unless they have at least 15 years experience or a master's degree and then they might earn around $100k?
Factor in the cost of living in the DMV, I would say this amounts to "super well paid"
This is not quite accurate. A significant number of teachers in DC work in Title 1 schools, which results in a pay boost. If you work in a Title 1 school and have 10 years experience, you will be making in the 90-100k range. Add in a masters and you can be making 110-120k. This is a very good salary.
Title 1 schools can vary a ton, though. Some are very well run with good culture and others are not. The student body, by definition, has higher needs than at a non-Title 1 school, but this does not automatically mean the experience is worse for teachers. For many teachers, if you can get a job at a Title 1 with good administration, the experience can be better than a non-Title 1 with bad internal culture or an extremely demanding parent community.
One thing I will say is 100% accurate is that ECE teachers in DCPS are "super well paid" compared to almost anywhere else. This is partly because they are required to be very well-educated -- ECE teachers in DC are required to have a masters degree in early childhood education, and overall the quality of ECE teachers in DCPS is exceedingly high. Since they have to have a masters, they often make more than other teachers in an elementary school despite also having smaller class sizes (generally) and often having teacher's aids as well.
This is compared not to other professions (I think teaching is underpaid as a profession generally, even in DC) but compared to teachers in other places. The fact that you can make 120k in DC as a PK or K teacher is actually really impressive. I think it helps the district attract a very high caliber of ECE teacher.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can see the max salary of a 10 month teacher is $131k. I’m not sure most teachers are on the PhD scale.
Also, what 3 months don’t teachers work? 😂
The max teacher salary is $146k
https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
So most teachers are paid around $80k-ish unless they have at least 15 years experience or a master's degree and then they might earn around $100k?
Factor in the cost of living in the DMV, I would say this amounts to "super well paid"
Anonymous wrote:There are public high schools in DC where less than 5% of kids operate at grade level and in some subject, no kid operates at grade level. The teachers at these schools have only decades of failure to show for their time there. And yet they get paid $120k+ and even get raises. Take a geometry teacher who has worked at a school for a decade during which time not one student was proficient in geometry. She would have made close to a million dollars, w/o teaching any student anything. These teachers have essentially made careers out of stealing money from DC taxpayers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We just got our school budget. Our librarian makes $140k. Most teachers make about $130k and they work for 9 months per year and they get a pension.
I am happy for them but people have to stop with pressuring parents to give them gift cards, valentine presents and all the talk about them not being well paid.
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This is not valid in other states. I am just talking about DCPS and probably DC metro and other big cities.
That’s it 🙂
Yup. I have 20 years experience and am in a senior role at my large nonprofit and make $126. We have had some lovely, lovely teachers and assistants when my kids were at a title 1 elementary, and I was generous with the gifts. But I no longer go overboard or give gifts to individual teachers in middle and hs. They are professionals!
Do you get $126 gross pay, or is $126 allocated for your salary, any benefits your company employer pays, subs if you are absent etc . . .?
Because a line item in a budget is not a salary.
If 126k is allocated for a teacher, approximately what is their actual salary (pre-tax)?
You managed to not see it posted twice.
https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
This does not answer my question.
In the budget, they put the average total cost (which includes all the benefits and add ons). The average teacher salary isn't easy to find but it is listed as $93,823 here https://joindcps.dc.gov/become-a-dc-teacher. The starting salary is $63,373. In the budget, whether a teacher makes $63K or $93K, they are listed at the average "total cost" of about $130K.
For how they calculate the average total cost, see https://dcpsbudget.com/budget-model/average-position-cost/.
I'm not talking about a line in a budget, I'm talking about something like this, that lists salaries by name:
https://dchr.dc.gov/public-employee-salary-information
Those are actual salaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can see the max salary of a 10 month teacher is $131k. I’m not sure most teachers are on the PhD scale.
Also, what 3 months don’t teachers work? 😂
The max teacher salary is $146k
https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
Yes, but most jobs you think of as “teacher” are 10 month positions. The $146k is for 12 month positions.