Anonymous
02/14/2024 21:28
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:'Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
The government should set the price of the burger. The solutions are staring you in the face.
Havana Urban Moms and Dads
At the very least they should stop paying farmers to not farm.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 21:24
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
You guys sound like FDRs detractors, when he was creating New Deal laws.
Most successful, society improving legislation ever. The sky didn’t fall down, it wasn’t economically disastrous.
However rich people did pay higher taxes and couldn’t get as obscenely rich as they had been.
Most successful, society improving legislation ever. The sky didn’t fall down, it wasn’t economically disastrous.
However rich people did pay higher taxes and couldn’t get as obscenely rich as they had been.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 19:25
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
Its not that simple though. Raising wages would reduce dependance on transfer payments. So in theory you would have a reduced tax burden/increase in quality of life as well. No one is living financially independent on $7 an hour, and probably not even at $15. Take a look at federal/state/local budgets some day to see how expensive that $7 wage really is.
Minimum wage in Montgomery County is $16.70. Fast food hamburgers are not $20. I don't know why we should peg minimum wage to a cheap fast food hamburger in the first place, but I doubt that a $26/hour minimum wage in 2030 (Ashwani Jain's actual idea) would lead to the horrific outcome of a $20 fast food hamburger.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 19:17
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
Its not that simple though. Raising wages would reduce dependance on transfer payments. So in theory you would have a reduced tax burden/increase in quality of life as well. No one is living financially independent on $7 an hour, and probably not even at $15. Take a look at federal/state/local budgets some day to see how expensive that $7 wage really is.
There is no way MoCo will reduce taxes, even in theory. Please.
Raises go up, so do prices of goods and services. MoCo tax is 3.25%. Even if they were to cut it by 1% (no way they will have 0 tax), that still won't induce middle or lower income people to go out and buy a fast food burger for $20.
You people live in lalaland.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 17:36
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
The government should set the price of the burger. The solutions are staring you in the face.
+100%. The government should be setting prices for all good and services and controlling and setting distribution systems and quotas. We’ve seen what happens when we leave things up to “the market” - shortages, empty shelves, price spikes, gouging - so it’s long last time the government controlled this. It’s a no-brainer.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 15:34
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
The government should set the price of the burger. The solutions are staring you in the face.
Yeah, the Romans tried price controls. Prices got so out of hand they had to start diluting the amount of silver in their currency, which caused even worse problems with currency devaluation and inflation. Many historians would actually blame Rome's awful economic and monetary policies for prices controls and increases in money supply for bringing down the mighty Roman empire. It's like Democrats never learn from glaring examples in history.
No one has tried real price control.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 15:20
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:You cannot afford a SFH on $55k. The minimum wage needs to be higher.
You can, just not in MoCo, or by yourself.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 15:19
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
Its not that simple though. Raising wages would reduce dependance on transfer payments. So in theory you would have a reduced tax burden/increase in quality of life as well. No one is living financially independent on $7 an hour, and probably not even at $15. Take a look at federal/state/local budgets some day to see how expensive that $7 wage really is.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 14:55
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
'Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
The government should set the price of the burger. The solutions are staring you in the face.
Havana Urban Moms and Dads
Anonymous
02/14/2024 14:40
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
The government should set the price of the burger. The solutions are staring you in the face.
Yeah, the Romans tried price controls. Prices got so out of hand they had to start diluting the amount of silver in their currency, which caused even worse problems with currency devaluation and inflation. Many historians would actually blame Rome's awful economic and monetary policies for prices controls and increases in money supply for bringing down the mighty Roman empire. It's like Democrats never learn from glaring examples in history.
I guess it's true what they say about some men thinking about the Roman Empire daily.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 14:39
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
The government should set the price of the burger. The solutions are staring you in the face.
Yeah, the Romans tried price controls. Prices got so out of hand they had to start diluting the amount of silver in their currency, which caused even worse problems with currency devaluation and inflation. Many historians would actually blame Rome's awful economic and monetary policies for prices controls and increases in money supply for bringing down the mighty Roman empire. It's like Democrats never learn from glaring examples in history.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 13:05
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
The government should set the price of the burger. The solutions are staring you in the face.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 12:44
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand who you think is going to staff your Targets, Starbucks, Panera, DSW, etc. if they can't earn enough money to live anywhere near their workplace.
Your kids don't work minimum wage jobs. So who do you think will?
Yet people keep working there, so......
Because we aren't employing them as doctors.
If they want to become doctors, they would need to go to school.
I grew up lower income. Worked crap PT low wage jobs while I went to college. My kid actually does work at Target, for a bit higher than minimum wage, while they go to school PT.
I'm not against living wages, but think things through, if you raise the minimum wage to $26/hr, how much do you think the goods and services would cost the consumer? Do you think the consumer would continue to be patrons at such a store/restaurant?
So, a $7 burger now becomes $20. People aren't go to pay for that so the restaurant closes. Now the burger flipper is out of a job.
Honestly, some of you people need to learn basic econ 101.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 12:41
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Whoa. Look out for skyrocketing inflation.
California is having real problems since they raised the fast food worker wages.
California is having real problems since they raised the fast food worker wages.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 11:44
Subject: MoCo $26/hr min wage
Anonymous wrote:That whole reddit thread was weird, like the guy got a list of far left positions and hadn’t thought about any of them.
I was surprised he didn’t have more questions about the $26 an hour idea.