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Anonymous wrote:Michigan and Wisconsin have great history programs and you get the cross-disipline academic benefits as well as the big school/fun sports rah rah spirit benefits.

These are both great programs, but humanities and social science departments at R1 schools of this size generally focus their attention on their graduate students. As PP mentioned, you're better off at a smaller school and working closely with profs rather than with PhD students.

It depends on the kid. My husband was a history major at Mich. He had some world renowned profs that he got to know pretty well. 5 years later they wrote his recos for law school apps. Me? Never spoke to a prof there unless absolutely necessary.

Exactly correct. If the student is proactive, top rated departments are definitely an asset.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/history-rankings

Michigan #2 in history, right behind Berkeley.

The best for undergraduate will have significant research and writing projects, with faculty guidance. I would not rely on a graduate school ranking to give you insight into that.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. No idea on plan. Maybe law school, foreign service, sales, who knows.

He is a super charismatic kid. The type that makes connections where ever he goes. I have two other kids who are not like this. I'm not particularly worried about the history kid landing on his feet without a precise career path lined up.

So not after a PhD in history. Would discourage a smart, charismatic, friendly, straight, academically gifted, non-athletic recruit, history major boy from going to a small liberal arts school in the middle of nowhere. Will likely have a hard time finding a significant cohort. Also, very limited classes.

Better to go to a larger school.

+1

Most of the Ivies are very good at history - Yale, Penn, Harvard, Princeton, Brown, Columbia. All difficult admits for anyone, but the declared interest in history will help. Every History department in the country is starving for undergrad history majors.

Other schools to consider are Michigan, Vanderbilt, Rice is surprisingly good at history, Duke, Chicago, Notre Dame, Wisconsin.

More classes in different topics. Larger departments, There are so few tenure track history professorships available that just about everybody is going to be very good. And being part of a larger school makes it easier for a social kid to find their people.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No idea on plan. Maybe law school, foreign service, sales, who knows.

He is a super charismatic kid. The type that makes connections where ever he goes. I have two other kids who are not like this. I'm not particularly worried about the history kid landing on his feet without a precise career path lined up.

Anonymous wrote:Princeton Review has a good list:
https://www.princetonreview.com/college-search/?majors=54.0101

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Anonymous wrote:OK we are talking about a history major. Just. Stop. He can go anywhere you are obsessing.

Go to the best school you get into

Anonymous wrote:OK we are talking about a history major. Just. Stop. He can go anywhere you are obsessing.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No idea on plan. Maybe law school, foreign service, sales, who knows.

He is a super charismatic kid. The type that makes connections where ever he goes. I have two other kids who are not like this. I'm not particularly worried about the history kid landing on his feet without a precise career path lined up.

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Anonymous wrote:All SLACs are good for this generally, in that you are taught almost exclusively by tenure track professors. This is especially true at SLACs with a consortium, so you have other SLACs to choose from and possibly even graduate courses as a senior: the Claremont Colleges, the Five Colleges, and the tri-co consortium come to mind.

As for larger schools, the top Ph.D. History programs don’t typically provide the best undergraduate experience. Best bet is probably mid-size schools with lots of resources and smaller classes.

THIS^^^. Go to a smaller school with a good history dept where your kid will be in smaller courses and able to engage with the professors. whether they are headed to law school or any other PHD program, they will benefit from this and with recommendations. It will be easier to engage with profs and be more involved in research, etc at a smaller school.

This is a horrible idea. Once Republcans take over these schools will be worthless.

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Anonymous wrote:All SLACs are good for this generally, in that you are taught almost exclusively by tenure track professors. This is especially true at SLACs with a consortium, so you have other SLACs to choose from and possibly even graduate courses as a senior: the Claremont Colleges, the Five Colleges, and the tri-co consortium come to mind.

As for larger schools, the top Ph.D. History programs don’t typically provide the best undergraduate experience. Best bet is probably mid-size schools with lots of resources and smaller classes.

THIS^^^. Go to a smaller school with a good history dept where your kid will be in smaller courses and able to engage with the professors. whether they are headed to law school or any other PHD program, they will benefit from this and with recommendations. It will be easier to engage with profs and be more involved in research, etc at a smaller school.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No idea on plan. Maybe law school, foreign service, sales, who knows.

He is a super charismatic kid. The type that makes connections where ever he goes. I have two other kids who are not like this. I'm not particularly worried about the history kid landing on his feet without a precise career path lined up.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No idea on plan. Maybe law school, foreign service, sales, who knows.

He is a super charismatic kid. The type that makes connections where ever he goes. I have two other kids who are not like this. I'm not particularly worried about the history kid landing on his feet without a precise career path lined up.