Most of them. I know you want this "URM stole my kid's spot" to hold, but it just doesn't. Most of this kids I know or have seen getting into multiple Ivies are not URM.

Agreed with this fully. I was white and from a wealthy suburban high school and got accepted to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, CalTech, and MIT. I think there's a bias that URMs are the only ones who sweep the Ivies because they end up in the news for it when they do.

If someone from an extremely disadvantaged situation sweeps the ivies, there's a news clip or newspaper article about it. When someone with lots of advantages in life(like myself) does it, it's not really newsworthy - it happens all the time and shouldn't be too unexpected. You just don't hear about it.

Less than 1% of Princeton early action applicants got in this year from NoVA.

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Anonymous wrote:I know a white kid -- not legacy, athlete or donor -- who got in test optional, but with a good GPA. I can only image the kid's essay was a masterpiece.

This is a problem as essay could be written by paid consultants. We should rely on measures that are done by the students only.

There are ways to know if essays are written by consultants or AI.

Family and friends work in admissions at Ivy and equivalent

I also have friends and family that work in admissions at Ivies. Maybe you can tell if an essay is written by AI, but definitely not if it's written by a consultant or some other paid essay writer.

I know a student this year who got in for STEM, top of the class, good test scores, major awards, not legacy.

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Anonymous wrote:I know a white kid -- not legacy, athlete or donor -- who got in test optional, but with a good GPA. I can only image the kid's essay was a masterpiece.

This is a problem as essay could be written by paid consultants. We should rely on measures that are done by the students only.

There are ways to know if essays are written by consultants or AI.

Family and friends work in admissions at Ivy and equivalent

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Anonymous wrote:If you want the key to getting into Princeton it is multifactorial:

1. Be URM
2. Be Legacy
3. Live in an area few Princeton students come from. In other words, move to West Virginia or Montana.
4. Ge a recruited athlete.

A white unhooked kid from the DC area needs to be top 10% of class with near perfect ACT/SAT scores (35 ACT minimum) and mind blowing ECs.

I personally know two URM (black) kids with above 1550 SAT and perfect grades who were admitted to EVERY Ivy EXCEPT Princeton last year. URM doesn't help as much as many of you think. I promise.

How are these two statements even compatible? Just because they didn't get 100% Ivy admission? How many non-URM kids do you hear about running the table (or almost) in Ivy League schools?

And to be clear - these URM students you reference are clearly great students....so don't take my comment to mean they are not deserving. But without URM, chances are they are not getting anywhere close to 100% acceptances at Ivy.

Most of them. I know you want this "URM stole my kid's spot" to hold, but it just doesn't. Most of this kids I know or have seen getting into multiple Ivies are not URM.