Anonymous wrote:Good lord it is because of changing demographics. PERIOD. I’m a 5’4” Jewish woman and I clearly remember being by far the shortest girl in my Midwestern high school filled with mostly ethnic German, Slavic and Scandinavian descent kids. My friends all toward over me at 5’7” at a minimum. As soon as I moved to the East Coast for college, where my classmates were also Jewish, Asian, Italian and Irish, boom I was average height. Yes there are tall Jews and Italians and quite a few Irish and even Asians, but on a whole they are shorter than Norwegians and Serbians. Add in indigenous people from El Salvador and the average American height it going to get shorter.

This isn’t rocket science and there is no need for conspiracy theories on this one.

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not it, OP. Whites of Scandinavian descent are tall. Hispanic whites are short.

Changing heights are due to changing demographics.

Hello, perhaps you missed this in OP's post:

Around 1980, even native-born White men and women started getting shorter. (We’re looking specifically at Whites because they have the most robust data.)

The definition of "white" in this country has always been a moving target.

So wapo now defines Central americans and Asians as white?

Some of them are.

Grasping at any logic to blame POC

Lots of people from Central and South America are Caucasian.

White South Americans loathe to come to the us as immigrants

White Central Americans are rare and while they aren’t as reticent to come to the us as South Americans, the numbers are minuscule

I’m from Central American and white. White is a race not an ethnicity.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree it's obviously due to changing demographics. People from difference backgrounds are different heights.

Read the article! They addressed it.

I'm still skeptical. We've had massive demographic changes in the US since 1980 and plenty of white people are white Latinos or have some mixed race heritage but still look very white. Very hard to separate the demographic changes from everything else.

I suspect there's fiddling with data or ignoring unwanted data to make the narrative fit. WaPo does this all the time.

+1 WaPo is a very biased news source. Demographics have changed. That said, it's not clear whether there are other issues such as food additives and pesticides, vaccine side effects, etc. also affecting height.

microplastics. Everywhere. Even found in newborn's poop. It's crazy and recent study there are way more (very alarming numbers of microplastics) in two well-known bottled water companies. They definitely cause harm in the body and interfere with hormones. Packaged food and fast food also have a very high number.

This is scary. DD got the covid vaccines and it changed her period. We had no idea that was even a possible side effect. I've had other permanent side effects from medications. It's alarming how little we know about long-term side effects from things we put into our bodies. The FDA is under a lot of pressure to approve medications. It's a big business with lawyers pushing hard so they can make their billions.

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not it, OP. Whites of Scandinavian descent are tall. Hispanic whites are short.

Changing heights are due to changing demographics.

Hello, perhaps you missed this in OP's post:

Around 1980, even native-born White men and women started getting shorter. (We’re looking specifically at Whites because they have the most robust data.)

The definition of "white" in this country has always been a moving target.

So wapo now defines Central americans and Asians as white?

Some of them are.

Grasping at any logic to blame POC

Lots of people from Central and South America are Caucasian.

White South Americans loathe to come to the us as immigrants

White Central Americans are rare and while they aren’t as reticent to come to the us as South Americans, the numbers are minuscule

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Anonymous wrote:Agree it's obviously due to changing demographics. People from difference backgrounds are different heights.

Read the article! They addressed it.

I'm still skeptical. We've had massive demographic changes in the US since 1980 and plenty of white people are white Latinos or have some mixed race heritage but still look very white. Very hard to separate the demographic changes from everything else.

I suspect there's fiddling with data or ignoring unwanted data to make the narrative fit. WaPo does this all the time.

+1 WaPo is a very biased news source. Demographics have changed. That said, it's not clear whether there are other issues such as food additives and pesticides, vaccine side effects, etc. also affecting height.

microplastics. Everywhere. Even found in newborn's poop. It's crazy and recent study there are way more (very alarming numbers of microplastics) in two well-known bottled water companies. They definitely cause harm in the body and interfere with hormones. Packaged food and fast food also have a very high number.

Anonymous wrote:My DS towers over both of us. He sleeps 10+ hours a night, sometimes more. In early elementary he slept about 12 hours a night and was late to give up naps.

He’s been a solid sleeper since early infancy.

I think so many young people are sleep deprived, screens, activities, studying etc., so they aren’t getting enough sleep and because they are spending so much time indoors they aren’t getting enough exercise. Little sleep and little exercise in childhood makes for smaller adults.

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not it, OP. Whites of Scandinavian descent are tall. Hispanic whites are short.

Changing heights are due to changing demographics.

Yup.

- former Scandinavian Texan

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Anonymous wrote:Agree it's obviously due to changing demographics. People from difference backgrounds are different heights.

Read the article! They addressed it.

I'm still skeptical. We've had massive demographic changes in the US since 1980 and plenty of white people are white Latinos or have some mixed race heritage but still look very white. Very hard to separate the demographic changes from everything else.

I suspect there's fiddling with data or ignoring unwanted data to make the narrative fit. WaPo does this all the time.

+1 WaPo is a very biased news source. Demographics have changed. That said, it's not clear whether there are other issues such as food additives and pesticides, vaccine side effects, etc. also affecting height.

Anonymous wrote:No, that's not it, OP. Whites of Scandinavian descent are tall. Hispanic whites are short.

Changing heights are due to changing demographics.

Anonymous wrote:It's hard to believe there could really have been a huge change in the quality of food around 1980. I'm more inclined to believe an environmental chemical factor we haven't identified yet.

Anonymous wrote:All latino kids I know are a lot taller than their parents. They are off of the corn diet which gives them nothing but full stomach. Their kids may end up being shorter or the same height they are because of the empty calories yet again.
US already may have hit their max height and it's downhill from there.
Europe is going downhill soon too because fast food is overtaken cooking at home. Not at schools yet luckily.