Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the undeniable, natural order of things.

Do you also think it's the undeniable, natural order of things that white people keep black people as slaves? Or that people born into wealth are just better people than those born into poverty? Because they all come from the same place, which is one group of people needing "inferiors" to serve them.

Tell me you don’t know what patriarchy means without telling me…

Anonymous wrote:It’s the undeniable, natural order of things.

Do you also think it's the undeniable, natural order of things that white people keep black people as slaves? Or that people born into wealth are just better people than those born into poverty? Because they all come from the same place, which is one group of people needing "inferiors" to serve them.

Anonymous wrote:It’s the undeniable, natural order of things.

A lot of women want a man who will leave the cave and kill something and bring it home to the family. It's ingrained and human nature.

It’s the undeniable, natural order of things.

Anonymous wrote:Because not everyone is miserable and many people, including women, benefit from the patriarchy. Many women have no desire to hold leadership positions, climb the corporate ladder and take on a traditionally male role in life. This is difficult for many women in liberal circles to understand.

I grew up in a conservative and relatively affluent area where most women stayed home. I’m not convinced my current life is any better and may actually be worse. I’m resentful I’m expected to have children and also a high earning career. Many of my childhood friends stay home with kids and have never had successful careers. They seem happier and not any worse off financially.

I have friends in Northern Europe where there’s much greater equality between the sexes and these couples seem especially unhappy.

This only works where the man has a job that pays enough to support the family and where the marriage is a good one in which the husband respects the wife's contribution. All rather rare things. It worked for my parents. And it's actually what I wanted for my life (and I am left of liberal), but my life did not work out that way.

The fact is that only the very wealthiest men can afford to support a family now. And for those who can, it has to be a good marriage where the wife doesn't feel like she has to tolerate abuse or some other mistreatment because she can't support herself, and the husband can't treat her like her role isn't valuable.
I've unfortunately witnessed a lot of terrible relationships where the woman SAH. It's wonderful if it works, and if it's what both parties want. But women are vulnerable in these marriages, and if they aren't married to good men, they're in big trouble.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because not everyone is miserable and many people, including women, benefit from the patriarchy. Many women have no desire to hold leadership positions, climb the corporate ladder and take on a traditionally male role in life. This is difficult for many women in liberal circles to understand.

I grew up in a conservative and relatively affluent area where most women stayed home. I’m not convinced my current life is any better and may actually be worse. I’m resentful I’m expected to have children and also a high earning career. Many of my childhood friends stay home with kids and have never had successful careers. They seem happier and not any worse off financially.

I have friends in Northern Europe where there’s much greater equality between the sexes and these couples seem especially unhappy.

Me too!!! (Bolded only)

Boomers lied to GenX. We can't have it all. There's no way! I think I have as close as one could get, but I sacrificed my career potential to get it, although I still have a good career, it's not AS GOOD. I also don't remember as much of my second child's infancy and developmental milestones, because I was too exhausted to enjoy it. My husband does as much as I do with the kids and house. We outsource a great deal and have a good income. We're good but not great at our jobs, good but not great as parents, and I'm a pretty crappy daughter to be honest. I need to vacation because I'm overworked, so I only visit my parents 2x/year - they won't vacation with us and rarely visit us (they feel that's my role), and I have limited time off. I also am so tired I struggle to cultivate friendships outside my immediate circle (kids' schools, work, neighborhood).

Yes! And also the grandparents have turned away from any responsibility. I see many posters asking for society to help 2 income families. Well, traditionally, that was the role of the grandparents (grandfathers too), but now, that is not the norm.

Anonymous wrote:Because women cry at work and react emotionally.

Men react emotionally and throw things/fists, or kill people.

The patriarchy is so alive and well that 55-60% of students at the best colleges and universities are women, and boys and men are dying in droves of despair. Give me a break. Look around; sure, there are old rich men, but young and middle aged men are in deep, deep trouble… and yet we sling around dumb facile buzzwords. Maybe we should step insulting genders as a whole and focus on fixing our broken society.

Christianity

Anonymous wrote:The patriarchy won’t even let women be presidents of universities.

Misogyny is stronger than ever before!

Women shouldn’t have plagiarists as role models.

Anonymous wrote:Everybody believes in evolution. Look around the rest of the mammals. In how many species are females dominant?

Hyenas, elephants, whales and the insect world come to mind.

Because women cry at work and react emotionally.

The patriarchy won’t even let women be presidents of universities.

Misogyny is stronger than ever before!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because some women uphold it. Particularly mothers of sons.

What does this even mean? I don't have sons but are you saying that if I had one and I treated them the same way (raising them to be confidenty, successful, strong, independent) that I would be contributing to the patriarchy instead of just wanting my kid to have a good life?

Yes that is exactly what she is saying.