Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.
That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.
The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.
The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.
As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.
If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.
I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto
Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.
2016 was the last time any Republican won all of Michigan or Pennsylvania but keep ignoring actual election results.
Since the overturn of RvW, all elections have had record turnout of young child-bearing age voters and women. The under-35 demographic and women have overwhelmingly voted against abortion restrictions in deep-red Kansas, very red Ohio, and have re-elected Democratic governor, Andy Beshear in Kentucky, and turned both houses of the Virginia legislature Democratic. Each of these states, abortion was a major voting issue and in each case, abortion rights have prevailed.
So you really think that the same is not going to happen in purple states like Michigan (where voters support abortion rights 54-42) and Pennsylvania (where voters support abortion rights 51-44)? As with the other states, young voters and suburban women will be coming out and will vote overwhelmingly Democratic.
Additionally Texas has become much more competitive. In 2016, Trump beat clinton 52.23% - 43.24% (+8.99%). In 2020, Trump beat Biden 52.06% - 46.48% (+5.58%). 6 of the 7 fastest growing areas in the state of Texas are the cities that historically vote blue (Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Ft Worth, El Paso). Between the growing Democratic demographics in the blue areas, and if, Texas follows other states where young voters, women and suburban households come out in record numbers and vote significantly blue, Texas becomes a very competitive state in 2024, especially with the draconian policies that Abbott, Patrick and Paxton have been pushing. I would not be surprised to see Texas vote blue in 2024.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?
The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.
At what point does the fetus attain equal status as the mother?
Easy, once it can live outside her body with minimal medical assistance.
Exactly, like in the old days. I would even say almost no medical assistance, you have a preemie and the preemie dies like "God intended." It's interesting the conservative anti women forced birthers don't ever mention this ever.
I'm convinced it's going to take their wives, sisters and girlfriends dying or losing their fertility for conservatives to have a light bulb moment.
More than likely they will just blame the pregnant/dead / infertile woman and the men will move on and start the cycle all over again with another woman, just like they did in the "good old days."
Nah. It ain’t gonna happen. Those wives, daughters, girlfriends and sisters are flying into Illinois, California, New Mexico and Virginia to obtain their life saving abortions.
Dp- someone’s not going to have the time for that. Someone is going to die, but here’s the thing.
I still think it won’t matter. I don’t think dead women are a problem for them.
There is a deep rot in evangelicalism. There is a deep rot within religious extremism.
They won’t be swayed or convinced.
But that’s ok, because we outnumber them. And we have to fight them and beat them back to the fringes where they belong.
I would guess several women already have died from this. You know what the right wing crazies are like; I would guess they are keeping their family tragedy quiet so as not to expose themselves to right wing harassment and terrorism.
Probably several poor and POC women have already died, but those will not make national headlines and certainly won't make news inside Texas.
Not dead but the White, Male, Republican prosecutor refused to drop charges and now Brittney Watt's case continues. We all know if she were white this wouldn't be happening. Can any Ohio prosecutors weigh in if the case could have been dropped?
https://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-news/2024/01/grand-jury-report-shows-miscarriage-case-continued/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?
The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.
At what point does the fetus attain equal status as the mother?
Easy, once it can live outside her body with minimal medical assistance.
Exactly, like in the old days. I would even say almost no medical assistance, you have a preemie and the preemie dies like "God intended." It's interesting the conservative anti women forced birthers don't ever mention this ever.
I'm convinced it's going to take their wives, sisters and girlfriends dying or losing their fertility for conservatives to have a light bulb moment.
More than likely they will just blame the pregnant/dead / infertile woman and the men will move on and start the cycle all over again with another woman, just like they did in the "good old days."
Nah. It ain’t gonna happen. Those wives, daughters, girlfriends and sisters are flying into Illinois, California, New Mexico and Virginia to obtain their life saving abortions.
Dp- someone’s not going to have the time for that. Someone is going to die, but here’s the thing.
I still think it won’t matter. I don’t think dead women are a problem for them.
There is a deep rot in evangelicalism. There is a deep rot within religious extremism.
They won’t be swayed or convinced.
But that’s ok, because we outnumber them. And we have to fight them and beat them back to the fringes where they belong.
I would guess several women already have died from this. You know what the right wing crazies are like; I would guess they are keeping their family tragedy quiet so as not to expose themselves to right wing harassment and terrorism.
Probably several poor and POC women have already died, but those will not make national headlines and certainly won't make news inside Texas.
Not dead but the White, Male, Republican prosecutor refused to drop charges and now Brittney Watt's case continues. We all know if she were white this wouldn't be happening. Can any Ohio prosecutors weigh in if the case could have been dropped?
https://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-news/2024/01/grand-jury-report-shows-miscarriage-case-continued/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?
The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.
At what point does the fetus attain equal status as the mother?
Easy, once it can live outside her body with minimal medical assistance.
Exactly, like in the old days. I would even say almost no medical assistance, you have a preemie and the preemie dies like "God intended." It's interesting the conservative anti women forced birthers don't ever mention this ever.
I'm convinced it's going to take their wives, sisters and girlfriends dying or losing their fertility for conservatives to have a light bulb moment.
More than likely they will just blame the pregnant/dead / infertile woman and the men will move on and start the cycle all over again with another woman, just like they did in the "good old days."
Nah. It ain’t gonna happen. Those wives, daughters, girlfriends and sisters are flying into Illinois, California, New Mexico and Virginia to obtain their life saving abortions.
Dp- someone’s not going to have the time for that. Someone is going to die, but here’s the thing.
I still think it won’t matter. I don’t think dead women are a problem for them.
There is a deep rot in evangelicalism. There is a deep rot within religious extremism.
They won’t be swayed or convinced.
But that’s ok, because we outnumber them. And we have to fight them and beat them back to the fringes where they belong.
I would guess several women already have died from this. You know what the right wing crazies are like; I would guess they are keeping their family tragedy quiet so as not to expose themselves to right wing harassment and terrorism.
Probably several poor and POC women have already died, but those will not make national headlines and certainly won't make news inside Texas.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.
That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.
The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.
The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.
As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.
If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.
I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto
Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.
2016 was the last time any Republican won all of Michigan or Pennsylvania but keep ignoring actual election results.
Please reread before commenting. Nobody said “won all”.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.
That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.
The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.
The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.
As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.
If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.
I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto
Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.
2016 was the last time any Republican won all of Michigan or Pennsylvania but keep ignoring actual election results.
Since the overturn of RvW, all elections have had record turnout of young child-bearing age voters and women. The under-35 demographic and women have overwhelmingly voted against abortion restrictions in deep-red Kansas, very red Ohio, and have re-elected Democratic governor, Andy Beshear in Kentucky, and turned both houses of the Virginia legislature Democratic. Each of these states, abortion was a major voting issue and in each case, abortion rights have prevailed.
So you really think that the same is not going to happen in purple states like Michigan (where voters support abortion rights 54-42) and Pennsylvania (where voters support abortion rights 51-44)? As with the other states, young voters and suburban women will be coming out and will vote overwhelmingly Democratic.
Additionally Texas has become much more competitive. In 2016, Trump beat clinton 52.23% - 43.24% (+8.99%). In 2020, Trump beat Biden 52.06% - 46.48% (+5.58%). 6 of the 7 fastest growing areas in the state of Texas are the cities that historically vote blue (Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Ft Worth, El Paso). Between the growing Democratic demographics in the blue areas, and if, Texas follows other states where young voters, women and suburban households come out in record numbers and vote significantly blue, Texas becomes a very competitive state in 2024, especially with the draconian policies that Abbott, Patrick and Paxton have been pushing. I would not be surprised to see Texas vote blue in 2024.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?
The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.
At what point does the fetus attain equal status as the mother?
Easy, once it can live outside her body with minimal medical assistance.
Exactly, like in the old days. I would even say almost no medical assistance, you have a preemie and the preemie dies like "God intended." It's interesting the conservative anti women forced birthers don't ever mention this ever.
I'm convinced it's going to take their wives, sisters and girlfriends dying or losing their fertility for conservatives to have a light bulb moment.
More than likely they will just blame the pregnant/dead / infertile woman and the men will move on and start the cycle all over again with another woman, just like they did in the "good old days."
Nah. It ain’t gonna happen. Those wives, daughters, girlfriends and sisters are flying into Illinois, California, New Mexico and Virginia to obtain their life saving abortions.
Dp- someone’s not going to have the time for that. Someone is going to die, but here’s the thing.
I still think it won’t matter. I don’t think dead women are a problem for them.
There is a deep rot in evangelicalism. There is a deep rot within religious extremism.
They won’t be swayed or convinced.
But that’s ok, because we outnumber them. And we have to fight them and beat them back to the fringes where they belong.
I would guess several women already have died from this. You know what the right wing crazies are like; I would guess they are keeping their family tragedy quiet so as not to expose themselves to right wing harassment and terrorism.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.
That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.
The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.
The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.
As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.
If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.
I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto
Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.
2016 was the last time any Republican won all of Michigan or Pennsylvania but keep ignoring actual election results.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?
The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.
At what point does the fetus attain equal status as the mother?
Easy, once it can live outside her body with minimal medical assistance.
Exactly, like in the old days. I would even say almost no medical assistance, you have a preemie and the preemie dies like "God intended." It's interesting the conservative anti women forced birthers don't ever mention this ever.
I'm convinced it's going to take their wives, sisters and girlfriends dying or losing their fertility for conservatives to have a light bulb moment.
More than likely they will just blame the pregnant/dead / infertile woman and the men will move on and start the cycle all over again with another woman, just like they did in the "good old days."
Nah. It ain’t gonna happen. Those wives, daughters, girlfriends and sisters are flying into Illinois, California, New Mexico and Virginia to obtain their life saving abortions.
Dp- someone’s not going to have the time for that. Someone is going to die, but here’s the thing.
I still think it won’t matter. I don’t think dead women are a problem for them.
There is a deep rot in evangelicalism. There is a deep rot within religious extremism.
They won’t be swayed or convinced.
But that’s ok, because we outnumber them. And we have to fight them and beat them back to the fringes where they belong.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.
That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.
The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.
The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.
As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.
If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.
I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto
Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.
2016 was the last time any Republican won all of Michigan or Pennsylvania but keep ignoring actual election results.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?
The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.
At what point does the fetus attain equal status as the mother?
Easy, once it can live outside her body with minimal medical assistance.
Exactly, like in the old days. I would even say almost no medical assistance, you have a preemie and the preemie dies like "God intended." It's interesting the conservative anti women forced birthers don't ever mention this ever.
I'm convinced it's going to take their wives, sisters and girlfriends dying or losing their fertility for conservatives to have a light bulb moment.
More than likely they will just blame the pregnant/dead / infertile woman and the men will move on and start the cycle all over again with another woman, just like they did in the "good old days."
Nah. It ain’t gonna happen. Those wives, daughters, girlfriends and sisters are flying into Illinois, California, New Mexico and Virginia to obtain their life saving abortions.
Dp- someone’s not going to have the time for that. Someone is going to die, but here’s the thing.
I still think it won’t matter. I don’t think dead women are a problem for them.
There is a deep rot in evangelicalism. There is a deep rot within religious extremism.
They won’t be swayed or convinced.
But that’s ok, because we outnumber them. And we have to fight them and beat them back to the fringes where they belong.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.
That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.
The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.
The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.
As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.
If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.
I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto
Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?
The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.
At what point does the fetus attain equal status as the mother?
Easy, once it can live outside her body with minimal medical assistance.
Exactly, like in the old days. I would even say almost no medical assistance, you have a preemie and the preemie dies like "God intended." It's interesting the conservative anti women forced birthers don't ever mention this ever.
I'm convinced it's going to take their wives, sisters and girlfriends dying or losing their fertility for conservatives to have a light bulb moment.
More than likely they will just blame the pregnant/dead / infertile woman and the men will move on and start the cycle all over again with another woman, just like they did in the "good old days."
Nah. It ain’t gonna happen. Those wives, daughters, girlfriends and sisters are flying into Illinois, California, New Mexico and Virginia to obtain their life saving abortions.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?
The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.
At what point does the fetus attain equal status as the mother?
Easy, once it can live outside her body with minimal medical assistance.
Exactly, like in the old days. I would even say almost no medical assistance, you have a preemie and the preemie dies like "God intended." It's interesting the conservative anti women forced birthers don't ever mention this ever.
I'm convinced it's going to take their wives, sisters and girlfriends dying or losing their fertility for conservatives to have a light bulb moment.
More than likely they will just blame the pregnant/dead / infertile woman and the men will move on and start the cycle all over again with another woman, just like they did in the "good old days."