Anonymous
06/14/2026 14:39
Subject: Re:where are 3.7-3.8 kids getting into this year from Big3 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious - what is the likely minimum GPA for NCS cum laude then? They only count two years of GPA for that but still most admitted to cum laude would be the top 20 percent of class I guess.
NCS only counts two years for cum laude?
No for cum laude they only count sophomore, junior and first semester of senior year. For the flag it's 2 years (only junior and senior year)
It's so weird how they do it. Every year there are multiple girls who aren't cum laude who have higher overall GPAs than those who are.
Is cum laude top 10 or 20 percent of class? At Holton (and other schools that I know), the top ten percent are inducted in spring of junior year (based on GPA from freshman, sophomore and 2/3 of junior year). The remaining top 20 are announced at the end of senior year, based on all four years (minus the last trimester of senior year).
It's the top 20% of the class from 10th and 11th grade only so it's not actually the top20% of GPAs in the grade since 9th grade isn't counted. Therefore there are girls with quite higher overall GPA (some of the Ivy girls, etc) who aren't cum laude. And it doesn't count rigor so you have girls who never take APs or calculus at all who are in whereas the BC + multivariable girls are often not.
And then valedictorian(s) (flag day) is calculated differently too (only 11th and 12th grade) so these girls can be a surprise as well.
Maybe a spin-off, but do these high-rigor girls still have good outcomes even if not cum laude or top 20%?
Define good outcome.
3.7-3.8 range with high rigor to a top 30 university or top 10 SLAC.
not at NCS outside of Chicago and Michigan
Anonymous
06/14/2026 14:37
Subject: Re:where are 3.7-3.8 kids getting into this year from Big3 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious - what is the likely minimum GPA for NCS cum laude then? They only count two years of GPA for that but still most admitted to cum laude would be the top 20 percent of class I guess.
NCS only counts two years for cum laude?
No for cum laude they only count sophomore, junior and first semester of senior year. For the flag it's 2 years (only junior and senior year)
It's so weird how they do it. Every year there are multiple girls who aren't cum laude who have higher overall GPAs than those who are.
Is cum laude top 10 or 20 percent of class? At Holton (and other schools that I know), the top ten percent are inducted in spring of junior year (based on GPA from freshman, sophomore and 2/3 of junior year). The remaining top 20 are announced at the end of senior year, based on all four years (minus the last trimester of senior year).
It's the top 20% of the class from 10th and 11th grade only so it's not actually the top20% of GPAs in the grade since 9th grade isn't counted. Therefore there are girls with quite higher overall GPA (some of the Ivy girls, etc) who aren't cum laude. And it doesn't count rigor so you have girls who never take APs or calculus at all who are in whereas the BC + multivariable girls are often not.
And then valedictorian(s) (flag day) is calculated differently too (only 11th and 12th grade) so these girls can be a surprise as well.
Maybe a spin-off, but do these high-rigor girls still have good outcomes even if not cum laude or top 20%?
Define good outcome.
3.7-3.8 range with high rigor to a top 30 university or top 10 SLAC.
Anonymous
06/14/2026 13:29
Subject: Re:where are 3.7-3.8 kids getting into this year from Big3 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious - what is the likely minimum GPA for NCS cum laude then? They only count two years of GPA for that but still most admitted to cum laude would be the top 20 percent of class I guess.
NCS only counts two years for cum laude?
No for cum laude they only count sophomore, junior and first semester of senior year. For the flag it's 2 years (only junior and senior year)
It's so weird how they do it. Every year there are multiple girls who aren't cum laude who have higher overall GPAs than those who are.
Is cum laude top 10 or 20 percent of class? At Holton (and other schools that I know), the top ten percent are inducted in spring of junior year (based on GPA from freshman, sophomore and 2/3 of junior year). The remaining top 20 are announced at the end of senior year, based on all four years (minus the last trimester of senior year).
It's the top 20% of the class from 10th and 11th grade only so it's not actually the top20% of GPAs in the grade since 9th grade isn't counted. Therefore there are girls with quite higher overall GPA (some of the Ivy girls, etc) who aren't cum laude. And it doesn't count rigor so you have girls who never take APs or calculus at all who are in whereas the BC + multivariable girls are often not.
And then valedictorian(s) (flag day) is calculated differently too (only 11th and 12th grade) so these girls can be a surprise as well.
Maybe a spin-off, but do these high-rigor girls still have good outcomes even if not cum laude or top 20%?
No, they can and do get shut out of top30 schools. Not sure if schools ranked 30-50 are defined as "good outcomes."
Do not take high rigor if you can't do well.
Anonymous
06/14/2026 13:28
Subject: Re:where are 3.7-3.8 kids getting into this year from Big3 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious - what is the likely minimum GPA for NCS cum laude then? They only count two years of GPA for that but still most admitted to cum laude would be the top 20 percent of class I guess.
NCS only counts two years for cum laude?
No for cum laude they only count sophomore, junior and first semester of senior year. For the flag it's 2 years (only junior and senior year)
It's so weird how they do it. Every year there are multiple girls who aren't cum laude who have higher overall GPAs than those who are.
Is cum laude top 10 or 20 percent of class? At Holton (and other schools that I know), the top ten percent are inducted in spring of junior year (based on GPA from freshman, sophomore and 2/3 of junior year). The remaining top 20 are announced at the end of senior year, based on all four years (minus the last trimester of senior year).
It's the top 20% of the class from 10th and 11th grade only so it's not actually the top20% of GPAs in the grade since 9th grade isn't counted. Therefore there are girls with quite higher overall GPA (some of the Ivy girls, etc) who aren't cum laude. And it doesn't count rigor so you have girls who never take APs or calculus at all who are in whereas the BC + multivariable girls are often not.
And then valedictorian(s) (flag day) is calculated differently too (only 11th and 12th grade) so these girls can be a surprise as well.
That’s interesting. At Holton, the GPA for cum laude is based on weighted GPA, which takes into account the rigor of the classes. As a result, most of the top 10 girls are the ones who take Multivariable calculus in senior year.
This makes far more sense. I don't know why NCS does things the weird way they do. It sends up recognizing both girls who take very weak classes and girls who don't have the highest GPAs as "cum laude." STA does not do it this way---as is typical their way is more logical.
The only good thing is that NCS does not designate anyone as cum laude until after college admissions are out (no early admits) so this screwy system does not harm any girl's college application.
Anonymous
06/14/2026 09:59
Subject: Re:where are 3.7-3.8 kids getting into this year from Big3 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious - what is the likely minimum GPA for NCS cum laude then? They only count two years of GPA for that but still most admitted to cum laude would be the top 20 percent of class I guess.
NCS only counts two years for cum laude?
No for cum laude they only count sophomore, junior and first semester of senior year. For the flag it's 2 years (only junior and senior year)
It's so weird how they do it. Every year there are multiple girls who aren't cum laude who have higher overall GPAs than those who are.
Is cum laude top 10 or 20 percent of class? At Holton (and other schools that I know), the top ten percent are inducted in spring of junior year (based on GPA from freshman, sophomore and 2/3 of junior year). The remaining top 20 are announced at the end of senior year, based on all four years (minus the last trimester of senior year).
It's the top 20% of the class from 10th and 11th grade only so it's not actually the top20% of GPAs in the grade since 9th grade isn't counted. Therefore there are girls with quite higher overall GPA (some of the Ivy girls, etc) who aren't cum laude. And it doesn't count rigor so you have girls who never take APs or calculus at all who are in whereas the BC + multivariable girls are often not.
And then valedictorian(s) (flag day) is calculated differently too (only 11th and 12th grade) so these girls can be a surprise as well.
That’s interesting. At Holton, the GPA for cum laude is based on weighted GPA, which takes into account the rigor of the classes. As a result, most of the top 10 girls are the ones who take Multivariable calculus in senior year.
Anonymous
06/14/2026 09:58
Subject: Re:where are 3.7-3.8 kids getting into this year from Big3 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious - what is the likely minimum GPA for NCS cum laude then? They only count two years of GPA for that but still most admitted to cum laude would be the top 20 percent of class I guess.
NCS only counts two years for cum laude?
No for cum laude they only count sophomore, junior and first semester of senior year. For the flag it's 2 years (only junior and senior year)
It's so weird how they do it. Every year there are multiple girls who aren't cum laude who have higher overall GPAs than those who are.
Is cum laude top 10 or 20 percent of class? At Holton (and other schools that I know), the top ten percent are inducted in spring of junior year (based on GPA from freshman, sophomore and 2/3 of junior year). The remaining top 20 are announced at the end of senior year, based on all four years (minus the last trimester of senior year).
It's the top 20% of the class from 10th and 11th grade only so it's not actually the top20% of GPAs in the grade since 9th grade isn't counted. Therefore there are girls with quite higher overall GPA (some of the Ivy girls, etc) who aren't cum laude. And it doesn't count rigor so you have girls who never take APs or calculus at all who are in whereas the BC + multivariable girls are often not.
And then valedictorian(s) (flag day) is calculated differently too (only 11th and 12th grade) so these girls can be a surprise as well.
Maybe a spin-off, but do these high-rigor girls still have good outcomes even if not cum laude or top 20%?
Define good outcome.
Anonymous
06/14/2026 09:49
Subject: Re:where are 3.7-3.8 kids getting into this year from Big3 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious - what is the likely minimum GPA for NCS cum laude then? They only count two years of GPA for that but still most admitted to cum laude would be the top 20 percent of class I guess.
NCS only counts two years for cum laude?
No for cum laude they only count sophomore, junior and first semester of senior year. For the flag it's 2 years (only junior and senior year)
It's so weird how they do it. Every year there are multiple girls who aren't cum laude who have higher overall GPAs than those who are.
Is cum laude top 10 or 20 percent of class? At Holton (and other schools that I know), the top ten percent are inducted in spring of junior year (based on GPA from freshman, sophomore and 2/3 of junior year). The remaining top 20 are announced at the end of senior year, based on all four years (minus the last trimester of senior year).
It's the top 20% of the class from 10th and 11th grade only so it's not actually the top20% of GPAs in the grade since 9th grade isn't counted. Therefore there are girls with quite higher overall GPA (some of the Ivy girls, etc) who aren't cum laude. And it doesn't count rigor so you have girls who never take APs or calculus at all who are in whereas the BC + multivariable girls are often not.
And then valedictorian(s) (flag day) is calculated differently too (only 11th and 12th grade) so these girls can be a surprise as well.
Maybe a spin-off, but do these high-rigor girls still have good outcomes even if not cum laude or top 20%?
Anonymous
06/14/2026 09:31
Subject: Re:where are 3.7-3.8 kids getting into this year from Big3 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious - what is the likely minimum GPA for NCS cum laude then? They only count two years of GPA for that but still most admitted to cum laude would be the top 20 percent of class I guess.
NCS only counts two years for cum laude?
No for cum laude they only count sophomore, junior and first semester of senior year. For the flag it's 2 years (only junior and senior year)
It's so weird how they do it. Every year there are multiple girls who aren't cum laude who have higher overall GPAs than those who are.
Is cum laude top 10 or 20 percent of class? At Holton (and other schools that I know), the top ten percent are inducted in spring of junior year (based on GPA from freshman, sophomore and 2/3 of junior year). The remaining top 20 are announced at the end of senior year, based on all four years (minus the last trimester of senior year).
It's the top 20% of the class from 10th and 11th grade only so it's not actually the top20% of GPAs in the grade since 9th grade isn't counted. Therefore there are girls with quite higher overall GPA (some of the Ivy girls, etc) who aren't cum laude. And it doesn't count rigor so you have girls who never take APs or calculus at all who are in whereas the BC + multivariable girls are often not.
And then valedictorian(s) (flag day) is calculated differently too (only 11th and 12th grade) so these girls can be a surprise as well.
Anonymous
06/14/2026 07:10
Subject: Re:where are 3.7-3.8 kids getting into this year from Big3 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious - what is the likely minimum GPA for NCS cum laude then? They only count two years of GPA for that but still most admitted to cum laude would be the top 20 percent of class I guess.
NCS only counts two years for cum laude?
No for cum laude they only count sophomore, junior and first semester of senior year. For the flag it's 2 years (only junior and senior year)
It's so weird how they do it. Every year there are multiple girls who aren't cum laude who have higher overall GPAs than those who are.
Is cum laude top 10 or 20 percent of class? At Holton (and other schools that I know), the top ten percent are inducted in spring of junior year (based on GPA from freshman, sophomore and 2/3 of junior year). The remaining top 20 are announced at the end of senior year, based on all four years (minus the last trimester of senior year).
Anonymous
06/13/2026 16:58
Subject: Re:where are 3.7-3.8 kids getting into this year from Big3 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious - what is the likely minimum GPA for NCS cum laude then? They only count two years of GPA for that but still most admitted to cum laude would be the top 20 percent of class I guess.
NCS only counts two years for cum laude?
No for cum laude they only count sophomore, junior and first semester of senior year. For the flag it's 2 years (only junior and senior year)
It's so weird how they do it. Every year there are multiple girls who aren't cum laude who have higher overall GPAs than those who are.