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Anonymous wrote:Increase in single parent households over the last 40 years is the leading cause of poverty and discipline issues across any demographic, IMO. And this in turn causes desperate academic outcomes. And the trend is clear across all demos.

I'm a single parent with kids at the Blair Magnet who seem to be doing fine.

You are to be congratulated for being a successful outlier in a group where success is very rare.

It just seems like a weak correlation.

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Anonymous wrote:Increase in single parent households over the last 40 years is the leading cause of poverty and discipline issues across any demographic, IMO. And this in turn causes desperate academic outcomes. And the trend is clear across all demos.

Actually academic performance by race tracks by % of kids born to single mothers.

Asian - 17% out of wedlock births
White; Non Hispanic - 29% out of wedlock births
Hispanic - 52% out of wedlock births
Native American - 65% out of wedlock births
African American - 69% out of wedlock births

Forgot the link: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2017/004.pdf

Anonymous wrote:Increase in single parent households over the last 40 years is the leading cause of poverty and discipline issues across any demographic, IMO. And this in turn causes desperate academic outcomes. And the trend is clear across all demos.

Actually academic performance by race tracks by % of kids born to single mothers.

Asian - 17% out of wedlock births
White; Non Hispanic - 29% out of wedlock births
Hispanic - 52% out of wedlock births
Native American - 65% out of wedlock births
African American - 69% out of wedlock births

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard some references at the high school where I teach that the 50% rule is going away. Anyone heard anything? I’m hoping this is true and will happen

That would be wonderful. I enjoy kicking kids when they already have an F.

Yes, because the goal is failing kids who don't try or learn, so that they have another opportunity to try again. Passing them on with no learning is cruel.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase in single parent households over the last 40 years is the leading cause of poverty and discipline issues across any demographic, IMO. And this in turn causes desperate academic outcomes. And the trend is clear across all demos.

Well, sort of. Single parent families are also on the increase across Europe, but poverty rates are not increasing. The difference is a functioning social safety net. It is very difficult to provide a stable economic base without two parents, but research shows that MC/UMC kids with single parent families have identical outcomes to kids in the same socioeconomic group with two parents in the home. The difference isn't the single parent - it's the money.

Right. Two parents provide money. Not everyone can be a senior business analyst but everyone can work lower skilled jobs and combine income and time to provide a stable environment for their kids. Subsidizing people to a greater degree is only treating the symptom.

It depends on your lens. Northern European countries have decided that "kids have a stable home" is important, so have prioritized ensuring that is possible.

The USA has decided that "incentivizing marriage" is important, so provides a weak safety net meant to force people into marriage through economic coersion.

There's a reason why divorce rates are climbing, and a reason why women institute the vast majority of divorces - as women have gained economic equality, they've emancipated themselves from heteronormative institutions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase in single parent households over the last 40 years is the leading cause of poverty and discipline issues across any demographic, IMO. And this in turn causes desperate academic outcomes. And the trend is clear across all demos.

Well, sort of. Single parent families are also on the increase across Europe, but poverty rates are not increasing. The difference is a functioning social safety net. It is very difficult to provide a stable economic base without two parents, but research shows that MC/UMC kids with single parent families have identical outcomes to kids in the same socioeconomic group with two parents in the home. The difference isn't the single parent - it's the money.

Right. Two parents provide money. Not everyone can be a senior business analyst but everyone can work lower skilled jobs and combine income and time to provide a stable environment for their kids. Subsidizing people to a greater degree is only treating the symptom.

Anonymous wrote:Increase in single parent households over the last 40 years is the leading cause of poverty and discipline issues across any demographic, IMO. And this in turn causes desperate academic outcomes. And the trend is clear across all demos.

Well, sort of. Single parent families are also on the increase across Europe, but poverty rates are not increasing. The difference is a functioning social safety net. It is very difficult to provide a stable economic base without two parents, but research shows that MC/UMC kids with single parent families have identical outcomes to kids in the same socioeconomic group with two parents in the home. The difference isn't the single parent - it's the money.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase in single parent households over the last 40 years is the leading cause of poverty and discipline issues across any demographic, IMO. And this in turn causes desperate academic outcomes. And the trend is clear across all demos.

I'm a single parent with kids at the Blair Magnet who seem to be doing fine.

You are to be congratulated for being a successful outlier in a group where success is very rare.

Anonymous wrote:Increase in single parent households over the last 40 years is the leading cause of poverty and discipline issues across any demographic, IMO. And this in turn causes desperate academic outcomes. And the trend is clear across all demos.

I'm a single parent with kids at the Blair Magnet who seem to be doing fine.

Increase in single parent households over the last 40 years is the leading cause of poverty and discipline issues across any demographic, IMO. And this in turn causes desperate academic outcomes. And the trend is clear across all demos.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we care more about kids staying engaged in school or punishing them?

Not giving them something they haven't earned is not "punishing them." It is a natural consequence of them not meeting the standard.

A high school diploma is earned, not given with no effort. The fact that you can't grasp that is astounding.

When we define 50% as the lowest awarded score then they will have earned that for doing absolutely nothing. See it's not that complicated This is like getting worked up over the SAT starting at something like 400 turning in a black paper. It's just the way some tests work.

+100

Anonymous wrote:Do we care more about kids staying engaged in school or punishing them?

If they aren’t going to do anything, why are they there? Put them in a job training program.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we care more about kids staying engaged in school or punishing them?

Not giving them something they haven't earned is not "punishing them." It is a natural consequence of them not meeting the standard.

A high school diploma is earned, not given with no effort. The fact that you can't grasp that is astounding.

When we define 50% as the lowest awarded score then they will have earned that for doing absolutely nothing. See it's not that complicated This is like getting worked up over the SAT starting at something like 400 turning in a black paper. It's just the way some tests work.

Anonymous wrote:Do we care more about kids staying engaged in school or punishing them?

Not giving them something they haven't earned is not "punishing them." It is a natural consequence of them not meeting the standard.

A high school diploma is earned, not given with no effort. The fact that you can't grasp that is astounding.

Anonymous wrote:Do we care more about kids staying engaged in school or punishing them?

It seems like punishment is all the rage with the right-wingers. They seem to feel 50% is like a free lunch, which is sacrilege. To me, however, it's just a different algorithm that is comparable to using grade points.