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Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hollywood-divide-over-israel-melissa-barrera-1235804452/

So Melissa Barrera was fired from the Scream franchise for:

“Spyglass’ stance is unequivocally clear: We have zero tolerance for antisemitism or the incitement of hate in any form, including false references to genocide, ethnic cleansing, Holocaust distortion or anything that flagrantly crosses the line into hate speech,” a Spyglass spokesperson tells Variety.

Do you think her posts qualify as hate speech or antisemitism?

I do not. It can certainly be argued that Israel's actions meet the definition of genocide and ethnic cleansing, although you may disagree with that opinion.

These terms are being weaponized, cruelly, against Jews who were the subjects of ethnic cleansing and genocide - the systematic eradication of 5 million of them in WWII and prior (ethnic cleansing and systematic killing of Jews goes way back, unfortunately). I’m grateful that people are being called out for this.

Jews were not the only people in which ethic cleansing and genocide has been committed against. Unfortunately, the Jewish people do not have an exclusive use of that word.What happened to Jews during WWII was horrific, but the European Roma people also experienced genocide during WW2, yet people rarely mention them.

Jews were the overwhelming number of victims of the Holocaust. It doesn’t negate the deaths of gays, Roma people, and others who were murdered. But to pretend that Jews were not the primary targets to the tune of 5 million people, isn’t factual.

But there’s a real desire to neutralize the Holocaust in order to justify antisemitism and anti- Israeli sentiment.

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Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hollywood-divide-over-israel-melissa-barrera-1235804452/

So Melissa Barrera was fired from the Scream franchise for:

“Spyglass’ stance is unequivocally clear: We have zero tolerance for antisemitism or the incitement of hate in any form, including false references to genocide, ethnic cleansing, Holocaust distortion or anything that flagrantly crosses the line into hate speech,” a Spyglass spokesperson tells Variety.

Do you think her posts qualify as hate speech or antisemitism?

I do not. It can certainly be argued that Israel's actions meet the definition of genocide and ethnic cleansing, although you may disagree with that opinion.

These terms are being weaponized, cruelly, against Jews who were the subjects of ethnic cleansing and genocide - the systematic eradication of 5 million of them in WWII and prior (ethnic cleansing and systematic killing of Jews goes way back, unfortunately). I’m grateful that people are being called out for this.

Jews were not the only people in which ethic cleansing and genocide has been committed against. Unfortunately, the Jewish people do not have an exclusive use of that word.What happened to Jews during WWII was horrific, but the European Roma people also experienced genocide during WW2, yet people rarely mention them.

Jews were the overwhelming number of victims of the Holocaust. It doesn’t negate the deaths of gays, Roma people, and others who were murdered. But to pretend that Jews were not the primary targets to the tune of 5 million people, isn’t factual.

But there’s a real desire to neutralize the Holocaust in order to justify antisemitism and anti- Israeli sentiment.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hollywood-divide-over-israel-melissa-barrera-1235804452/

So Melissa Barrera was fired from the Scream franchise for:

“Spyglass’ stance is unequivocally clear: We have zero tolerance for antisemitism or the incitement of hate in any form, including false references to genocide, ethnic cleansing, Holocaust distortion or anything that flagrantly crosses the line into hate speech,” a Spyglass spokesperson tells Variety.

Do you think her posts qualify as hate speech or antisemitism?

I do not. It can certainly be argued that Israel's actions meet the definition of genocide and ethnic cleansing, although you may disagree with that opinion.

These terms are being weaponized, cruelly, against Jews who were the subjects of ethnic cleansing and genocide - the systematic eradication of 5 million of them in WWII and prior (ethnic cleansing and systematic killing of Jews goes way back, unfortunately). I’m grateful that people are being called out for this.

Jews were not the only people in which ethic cleansing and genocide has been committed against. Unfortunately, the Jewish people do not have an exclusive use of that word.What happened to Jews during WWII was horrific, but the European Roma people also experienced genocide during WW2, yet people rarely mention them.

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Anonymous wrote:Susan Sarandon is a vicious anti semite and must be condemned by all righteous people.

This is not helped by the failure of some of our heroes - like President Obama- to denounce the October killings in a forthright manner.

Anti-semitism has been growing in the shadows and now it’s appeared like black mold on our college campuses, our city streets and our social media.

Anyone, like this individual, wandering around with a worldview that characterizes Susan Sarandon as a “vicious anti semite” based on her recents comments is part of a movement that everyone else should be forcefully arraying against.

This worldview is a symptom of derangement. It’s only a diseased mind that could possibly view her actions and words through that kind of lens. Who cares whether she’s A list or C list. She said nothing wrong.

Righteous people? Condemnation … for having compassion? Just bizarre.

Involuntary mental health treatment or “neutralization”. Anything short of that doesn’t go far enough, and allows this sickness to fester.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hollywood-divide-over-israel-melissa-barrera-1235804452/

So Melissa Barrera was fired from the Scream franchise for:

“Spyglass’ stance is unequivocally clear: We have zero tolerance for antisemitism or the incitement of hate in any form, including false references to genocide, ethnic cleansing, Holocaust distortion or anything that flagrantly crosses the line into hate speech,” a Spyglass spokesperson tells Variety.

Do you think her posts qualify as hate speech or antisemitism?

I do not. It can certainly be argued that Israel's actions meet the definition of genocide and ethnic cleansing, although you may disagree with that opinion.

These terms are being weaponized, cruelly, against Jews who were the subjects of ethnic cleansing and genocide - the systematic eradication of 5 million of them in WWII and prior (ethnic cleansing and systematic killing of Jews goes way back, unfortunately). I’m grateful that people are being called out for this.

No doubt that the Jewish people have been victims of genocide.

That does not preclude Israel from committing a genocide. Many people view what is happening in Gaza as genocide and ethnic cleansing, meeting the definitions of both.

It is not your view, I understand. But it is not antisemitism to view it as genocide.

It is antisemitism and the term genocide is hyperbole.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hollywood-divide-over-israel-melissa-barrera-1235804452/

So Melissa Barrera was fired from the Scream franchise for:

“Spyglass’ stance is unequivocally clear: We have zero tolerance for antisemitism or the incitement of hate in any form, including false references to genocide, ethnic cleansing, Holocaust distortion or anything that flagrantly crosses the line into hate speech,” a Spyglass spokesperson tells Variety.

Do you think her posts qualify as hate speech or antisemitism?

I do not. It can certainly be argued that Israel's actions meet the definition of genocide and ethnic cleansing, although you may disagree with that opinion.

These terms are being weaponized, cruelly, against Jews who were the subjects of ethnic cleansing and genocide - the systematic eradication of 5 million of them in WWII and prior (ethnic cleansing and systematic killing of Jews goes way back, unfortunately). I’m grateful that people are being called out for this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hollywood-divide-over-israel-melissa-barrera-1235804452/

So Melissa Barrera was fired from the Scream franchise for:

“Spyglass’ stance is unequivocally clear: We have zero tolerance for antisemitism or the incitement of hate in any form, including false references to genocide, ethnic cleansing, Holocaust distortion or anything that flagrantly crosses the line into hate speech,” a Spyglass spokesperson tells Variety.

Do you think her posts qualify as hate speech or antisemitism?

I do not. It can certainly be argued that Israel's actions meet the definition of genocide and ethnic cleansing, although you may disagree with that opinion.

What did she post?

Some have had enough. Spyglass quietly dropped Melissa Barrera as the star of the next “Scream” film, sources say, due to her social media posts that referred to Israel as a “colonized” land and floated an antisemitic trope that Jews control the media, writing: “Western media only shows the [Israeli] side. Why do they do that, I will let you deduce for yourself.” Barrera did not respond to a request for comment.

Do Jews control the media? Is that an accurate statement or just garden variety antisemitism?

She didn’t say Jews control the media. She said western media only shows one side. That is her opinion, but not antisemitism.

She might as well have said it. Being coy doesn't mean you aren't antisemitic. And the Western media has shown the Palestinian side.

Anonymous wrote:Susan Sarandon is a vicious anti semite and must be condemned by all righteous people.

This is not helped by the failure of some of our heroes - like President Obama- to denounce the October killings in a forthright manner.

Anti-semitism has been growing in the shadows and now it’s appeared like black mold on our college campuses, our city streets and our social media.

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Anonymous wrote:She is awful! She helped Trump win by continuing to deride Hilary Clinton.

You sound more cuckoo than Sarandon if that's possible

Anonymous wrote:Susan Sarandon is a vicious anti semite and must be condemned by all righteous people.

This is not helped by the failure of some of our heroes - like President Obama- to denounce the October killings in a forthright manner.

Anti-semitism has been growing in the shadows and now it’s appeared like black mold on our college campuses, our city streets and our social media.

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Anonymous wrote:And Seldowitz was fired. This is not about whose statement is worse, they don’t work in the same place, Seldowitz was targeting one person, she was speaking from the podium.

Seldowitz was at state for 30 years with this attitude — which is pervasive at state.

State is way more than 2% Jewish

Sarandon doesn’t make policy - seldowitz does

Also, you know who had seldowitz attitudes as well? Sec. Albright

the state department has always been antisemitic. It refused to help Jews during the Holocaust , has always been Arabist

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Anonymous wrote:And Seldowitz was fired. This is not about whose statement is worse, they don’t work in the same place, Seldowitz was targeting one person, she was speaking from the podium.

Seldowitz was at state for 30 years with this attitude — which is pervasive at state.

State is way more than 2% Jewish

Sarandon doesn’t make policy - seldowitz does

Also, you know who had seldowitz attitudes as well? Sec. Albright

And none of it has anything to do with Susan Sarandon. The thread is about her. Try to focus.

The thread started on Seldowitz was locked while this one continues to get its own thread. What Sarandon was standing up for a people who are oppressed by Israel a Jewish state. This is done with the aid of the US government by people like Seldowitz. Yet the pro Israel mob goes Sarandon?
This is why there has been no solution to the Israel problem. The US government in key positions is fill with people who share Seldowitz’s disgusting world view. You know these same people will not tolerate an employee with a different view. I wonder how many people of color, Muslim, etc Seldowitz forced our over the years?

Stu is a former gov employee with no reach at all. Susan was speaking to millions from a podium. Have you heard about Stu before? I certainly haven’t. His views are vile but he is a old man with likely no relevance. Susan (although also old) has an enormous reach and relevance. Seldowitz has not worked in the gov since Obama. I doubt anyone in the state thinks that the Prophet raped his daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And Seldowitz was fired. This is not about whose statement is worse, they don’t work in the same place, Seldowitz was targeting one person, she was speaking from the podium.

Seldowitz was at state for 30 years with this attitude — which is pervasive at state.

State is way more than 2% Jewish

Sarandon doesn’t make policy - seldowitz does

Also, you know who had seldowitz attitudes as well? Sec. Albright

And none of it has anything to do with Susan Sarandon. The thread is about her. Try to focus.

The thread started on Seldowitz was locked while this one continues to get its own thread. What Sarandon was standing up for a people who are oppressed by Israel a Jewish state. This is done with the aid of the US government by people like Seldowitz. Yet the pro Israel mob goes Sarandon?
This is why there has been no solution to the Israel problem. The US government in key positions is fill with people who share Seldowitz’s disgusting world view. You know these same people will not tolerate an employee with a different view. I wonder how many people of color, Muslim, etc Seldowitz forced our over the years?

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Anonymous wrote:And Seldowitz was fired. This is not about whose statement is worse, they don’t work in the same place, Seldowitz was targeting one person, she was speaking from the podium.

Seldowitz was at state for 30 years with this attitude — which is pervasive at state.

State is way more than 2% Jewish

Sarandon doesn’t make policy - seldowitz does

Also, you know who had seldowitz attitudes as well? Sec. Albright