Anonymous
11/20/2023 14:04
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Worried you will lose your job?
What?
What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?
My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.
Some of you are kind of crazy.
Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?
And you think you get to command the NYT editorial board to resign? Move on. It is 2023. The kids who were hurt the most are the ones who have crazy parents.
Why don't you just sit this conversation out if you aren't interested? What harm is it to you if people want to learn where we went wrong and how do to better in the future?
Let it go. Let it go. Some of you have lost your minds. Go for a walk or something.
You are obsessed with shutting this down. What are you so worried about? Go for a walk yourself if this doesn't interest you.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 14:04
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Worried you will lose your job?
What?
What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?
My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.
Some of you are kind of crazy.
Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?
As a general rule, those guilty of something prefer to avoid accountability.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 14:03
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Worried you will lose your job?
What?
What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?
My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.
Some of you are kind of crazy.
Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?
And you think you get to command the NYT editorial board to resign? Move on. It is 2023. The kids who were hurt the most are the ones who have crazy parents.
Why don't you just sit this conversation out if you aren't interested? What harm is it to you if people want to learn where we went wrong and how do to better in the future?
Let it go. Let it go. Some of you have lost your minds. Go for a walk or something.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 14:02
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Worried you will lose your job?
What?
What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?
My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.
Some of you are kind of crazy.
Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?
And you think you get to command the NYT editorial board to resign? Move on. It is 2023. The kids who were hurt the most are the ones who have crazy parents.
Why don't you just sit this conversation out if you aren't interested? What harm is it to you if people want to learn where we went wrong and how do to better in the future?
Anonymous
11/20/2023 14:00
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Worried you will lose your job?
What?
What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?
My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.
Some of you are kind of crazy.
Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?
And you think you get to command the NYT editorial board to resign? Move on. It is 2023. The kids who were hurt the most are the ones who have crazy parents.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 13:58
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Worried you will lose your job?
What?
What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?
My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.
Some of you are kind of crazy.
Mine too, but I had to move from a batshit crazy place to get that. Had we stayed put the kids would have been out until late spring 2021. That's messed up. There was no reason for that whatsoever. There were some terrible decisions and we should hold people accountable for that. Why not?
Anonymous
11/20/2023 13:56
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Worried you will lose your job?
What?
What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?
My kids go to Catholic school, so they were back in person school in fall 2020.
Some of you are kind of crazy.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 13:53
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
+1
Sadly, the pandemic triggered/exacerbated mental health issues for many people.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 13:52
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Worried you will lose your job?
What?
What is your interest in trying to shut down any discussion about where things went wrong? You are awfully defensive and paranoid that we might have to admit mistakes were made. Why is that?
Anonymous
11/20/2023 13:50
Subject: NYT and school closures
[twitter]
What?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Worried you will lose your job?
What?
Anonymous
11/20/2023 13:46
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Worried you will lose your job?
Anonymous
11/20/2023 13:37
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, another “I was ok with experimenting on teachers” thread. Yes, the closures affected learning. That’s because we had a pandemic that killed millions of people. If you were advocating putting teachers back into the classroom prior to widespread vaccine availability and peak deaths (Jan 2021 in Virginia), I consider you absolute scum.
My school district (DCPS) did not full reopen until August 2021, a full 8 months after teachers receive priority access to vaccines. Yes, some schools opened for some kids (not mine, to be clear) where teachers essentially volunteered to come back. But many schools, including ours, were closed from March 2020 until August 2021.
And don't forget all the school personnel who refused to get vaccinated even when vaccines were widely available, but also refused to return to work.
Which school didn’t have kids in the buildings by March 2021?
Full time? Prince William county schools. In March 2021 high school students were allowed to come in 2 days a week. Most didn't bother. My kids were typically the only ones in their classroom besides the teacher. They were literally the only ones on their bus.
Kids were back in classrooms at almost all schools by March 2021.
Not full-time, and not all kids. Do people not know this?
OK. Like I said, at almost all schools most kids who wanted to be back in the classroom were back in classroom by March 2021.
You can look at the numbers at the link below. I live in Maryland and don't consider hybrid offered to 64% of students in March of 2021 to be something available to "almost all" students. By May 2021, full-time in-person learning was still unavailable for 80% of Maryland students, and 36% weren't even offered hybrid instruction. You can see similar numbers for DC and Virginia.
https://ies.ed.gov/schoolsurvey/mss-dashboard/
Anonymous
11/20/2023 13:37
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Ha ha. Some of you are really pieces of work.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 13:35
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Ok. To some of us this was obvious from the get-go. Now go apologize to Ron DeSantis.
+ a billion.
Plus, let's demand some accountability. Time for NYT Editorial Board to resign. All of them.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 13:34
Subject: NYT and school closures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop being hypocrites. None of you give two shits about the impact that school closures had on society or education in general. All you care about is how much it inconvenienced you.
I care about how it "inconvenienced" me but I also care about the many kids in DC who literally cannot read as a result of school closures. I also care about the link between school closures and an uptick in juvenile crime, a huge problem we all just pretend is unexplainable. Hmm, why are so many teens in DC committing crimes now? Could it be that they were essentially abandoned by the public school system for 16 months and many of them never came back or came back with massive truancy and behavioral problems that it's now harder to address because there is ZERO trust between schools and kids at this point?
No it can't be that. What could it be??
They can't read because their parents didn't play a big enough role in their education. I agree that schools should not have been closed for as long as they were, but the massive deficits and subsequent issues with crime and misconduct give credibility to something teachers have been saying for years - a lot of people rely on the school system to raise their children. Schools are not designed to bear the brunt of society's failings, yet that's exactly what we expect them to do.
They can’t read because teachers are poorly trained and schools got inexplicably deceived by the “whole language” method. And now schools are doubling down on academic failures by getting rid of tools actually vital to learning (graded homework, quizzes, spelling tests, differentiation) in the name of equity. Schools at some point decided that making teachers feel like they are agents of social justice rather than primarily responsible for teaching content.