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Anonymous wrote:Richmond is private, not public.

But there are lots more....VCU, CNU, ODU, Radford, VMI, UMW. Not sure what more OP needs.

Some are very selective, some not selective at all and some in between.

+1. VA has some of the better state schools around. What the OP wants, I suspect is more schools at the UVA/W&M/VaTech "ranking". They could not imagine sending their kid to GMU, JMU, VCU, ODU, Radford, Mary Washington, etc.

MD has UMD and then it drops to UMBC (266) and then Towson (459)

UVA is 55 and VaTEch is 106 (These are college simply rankings, so you merge all LA, SLAC, regional universities into one ranking). JMU is 258, GMU is 244, VCU 455.

It's a no brainer---VA has much better options for in state than MD.

Don't knowo what you are looking at but UVA is T24 for USNWR now

Other states have XXX State Univ. and Univ. of XXX.

Most states have a flagship and a land grant. In VA, this is VT and UVA. W&M, VCU, JMU and GMU are pretty good bonus schools and better than most states' "directional" schools. They are all in the national USNWR rankings.

My "subpar" kid (4.0W and 34 ACT) only applied to JMU instate (other VA schools made no sense for his major) and chose it over UMD, which offered a nice scholarship. The other subpar kid went to an OOS land grant. It cost about as much as W&M in-state. If she had wanted to go in state, only VT had her major. Not EVERYONE wants to be an engineer.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is welcome to their opinion, of course. But then, there is also reality. Since engineering was mentioned, see the programs available at VCU, ODU, and VMI. And there are some targeted engineering programs at some of Virginia’s HBCUs, Norfolk State University and Virginia State University. And at small privates like Randolph-Macon.

OP here.

Y’all may disagree all you want but I have seen more and more Virginia kids heading to the OOS public schools like UMCP, Pitt, UDel, etc.

Am I the only one seeing this trend? Have you all not seen the threads comparing JMU and OOS public such as “JMU vs Pitt”?

A[b]ctually, you haven't' because OOS has become obscenely expensive.

+1. UCLA is now 76K OOS. UVA is 37K. Families don't go OOS unless they have to. you are trolling

F[b]amilies don't go OOS unless they can.

Fixed that for you.

Troll.

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At 78K a year? no way. DCs didn't appl anywhere OOS. All in-state. Thank heavens.

I don't think you are aware that Berkeley is now $78,732 a year for OOS. Berkeley doesn't even break it down anymore - they simply state there is a surcharge of $32,574 for OOS on top of the in-=state of $46,168. https://financialaid.berkeley.edu/how-aid-works/student-budgets-cost-of-attendance/. For that reason we didn't apply anywhere OOS. I actually don't know anyone who applied OOS. Everyone finds a home in the 30 odd public schools in Virginia. UVA is $37K. Our DDD went to GMU. It was slightly more.

Anonymous wrote:UVA is very clear about the curriculum that you should take. They like to see rigor across all core subjects and not having any AP English when most applicants take both AP lang and AP lit is a mistake.

Yes, we got it Dr. Demento.

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Anonymous wrote:Richmond is private, not public.

But there are lots more....VCU, CNU, ODU, Radford, VMI, UMW. Not sure what more OP needs.

Some are very selective, some not selective at all and some in between.

+1. VA has some of the better state schools around. What the OP wants, I suspect is more schools at the UVA/W&M/VaTech "ranking". They could not imagine sending their kid to GMU, JMU, VCU, ODU, Radford, Mary Washington, etc.

MD has UMD and then it drops to UMBC (266) and then Towson (459)

UVA is 55 and VaTEch is 106 (These are college simply rankings, so you merge all LA, SLAC, regional universities into one ranking). JMU is 258, GMU is 244, VCU 455.

It's a no brainer---VA has much better options for in state than MD.

If you cannot get in, that’s not an option. UVa, W&M and VT are not options for many many Virginia kids.

Being better than MD doesn’t mean much.

Virginia parent here, who is just starting to learn about it all. This thread gives me hope, thank you!!!

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Anonymous wrote:OP is welcome to their opinion, of course. But then, there is also reality. Since engineering was mentioned, see the programs available at VCU, ODU, and VMI. And there are some targeted engineering programs at some of Virginia’s HBCUs, Norfolk State University and Virginia State University. And at small privates like Randolph-Macon.

OP here.

Y’all may disagree all you want but I have seen more and more Virginia kids heading to the OOS public schools like UMCP, Pitt, UDel, etc.

Am I the only one seeing this trend? Have you all not seen the threads comparing JMU and OOS public such as “JMU vs Pitt”?

A[b]ctually, you haven't' because OOS has become obscenely expensive.

+1. UCLA is now 76K OOS. UVA is 37K. Families don't go OOS unless they have to. you are trolling

Families don't go OOS unless they can.

Fixed that for you.

Troll.

At 78K a year? no way. DCs didn't appl anywhere OOS. All in-state. Thank heavens.

Anonymous wrote:VA parents with subpar kids REALLY need to stop complaining about UVA admissions. If they doubled the size of the school or limited OOS enrollment so your kids could get in it wouldn’t be the same school AT ALL. There are plenty of other perfectly fine in state options. Leave the elite to the elite.

I want to request that this post goes directly to the DCUM HOF posts! Her post of "Leave the elite to the elite" is awesome. WOW!

UVA is very clear about the curriculum that you should take. They like to see rigor across all core subjects and not having any AP English when most applicants take both AP lang and AP lit is a mistake.

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Anonymous wrote:VA parents with subpar kids REALLY need to stop complaining about UVA admissions. If they doubled the size of the school or limited OOS enrollment so your kids could get in it wouldn’t be the same school AT ALL. There are plenty of other perfectly fine in state options. Leave the elite to the elite.

100%. My 3.96/4.52, 1560, NMSF would have been a huge drag on the institution.

Are you saying that your kid with those stats did not get in? What kind of extracurriculars did they have? Were they just an egg head and nothing else?

Engineering waitlist last year. Varsity athlete, leadership in 2 clubs (founded one), CS related internship with a small non profit, self taught musician, PT retail employment. Did NOT take AP English?? He's doing fine. Family a tad bitter.

Didn’t take AP English? Yea that was a mistake.

That’s definitely a mistake for UVA. Even for engineering they like to see AP English.

Yes, and this is why you have to take the posters who claim that their perfect child did not get into UVA with a grain of salt. Dig a little deeper and there’s always a major deficiency in their applications.

PP, I warned him in 10th grade when he was registering for classes this would likely be an issue. Theres no digging. I offered the information and fully anticipated all you Karens would start piling on.

“major deficiency” lol!

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Anonymous wrote:OP is welcome to their opinion, of course. But then, there is also reality. Since engineering was mentioned, see the programs available at VCU, ODU, and VMI. And there are some targeted engineering programs at some of Virginia’s HBCUs, Norfolk State University and Virginia State University. And at small privates like Randolph-Macon.

OP here.

Y’all may disagree all you want but I have seen more and more Virginia kids heading to the OOS public schools like UMCP, Pitt, UDel, etc.

Am I the only one seeing this trend? Have you all not seen the threads comparing JMU and OOS public such as “JMU vs Pitt”?

A[b]ctually, you haven't' because OOS has become obscenely expensive.

+1. UCLA is now 76K OOS. UVA is 37K. Families don't go OOS unless they have to. you are trolling

Families don't go OOS unless they can.

Fixed that for you.

Troll.

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Anonymous wrote:VA parents with subpar kids REALLY need to stop complaining about UVA admissions. If they doubled the size of the school or limited OOS enrollment so your kids could get in it wouldn’t be the same school AT ALL. There are plenty of other perfectly fine in state options. Leave the elite to the elite.

100%. My 3.96/4.52, 1560, NMSF would have been a huge drag on the institution.

Are you saying that your kid with those stats did not get in? What kind of extracurriculars did they have? Were they just an egg head and nothing else?

Engineering waitlist last year. Varsity athlete, leadership in 2 clubs (founded one), CS related internship with a small non profit, self taught musician, PT retail employment. Did NOT take AP English?? He's doing fine. Family a tad bitter.

Didn’t take AP English? Yea that was a mistake.

That’s definitely a mistake for UVA. Even for engineering they like to see AP English.

Yes, and this is why you have to take the posters who claim that their perfect child did not get into UVA with a grain of salt. Dig a little deeper and there’s always a major deficiency in their applications.

PP, I warned him in 10th grade when he was registering for classes this would likely be an issue. Theres no digging. I offered the information and fully anticipated all you Karens would start piling on.

Anonymous wrote:Richmond is private, not public.

But there are lots more....VCU, CNU, ODU, Radford, VMI, UMW. Not sure what more OP needs.

Some are very selective, some not selective at all and some in between.

+1. VA has some of the better state schools around. What the OP wants, I suspect is more schools at the UVA/W&M/VaTech "ranking". They could not imagine sending their kid to GMU, JMU, VCU, ODU, Radford, Mary Washington, etc.

MD has UMD and then it drops to UMBC (266) and then Towson (459)

UVA is 55 and VaTEch is 106 (These are college simply rankings, so you merge all LA, SLAC, regional universities into one ranking). JMU is 258, GMU is 244, VCU 455.

It's a no brainer---VA has much better options for in state than MD.

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Anonymous wrote:VA parents with subpar kids REALLY need to stop complaining about UVA admissions. If they doubled the size of the school or limited OOS enrollment so your kids could get in it wouldn’t be the same school AT ALL. There are plenty of other perfectly fine in state options. Leave the elite to the elite.

100%. My 3.96/4.52, 1560, NMSF would have been a huge drag on the institution.

Are you saying that your kid with those stats did not get in? What kind of extracurriculars did they have? Were they just an egg head and nothing else?

Engineering waitlist last year. Varsity athlete, leadership in 2 clubs (founded one), CS related internship with a small non profit, self taught musician, PT retail employment. Did NOT take AP English?? He's doing fine. Family a tad bitter.

Didn’t take AP English? Yea that was a mistake.

That’s definitely a mistake for UVA. Even for engineering they like to see AP English.

Yes, and this is why you have to take the posters who claim that their perfect child did not get into UVA with a grain of salt. Dig a little deeper and there’s always a major deficiency in their applications.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is welcome to their opinion, of course. But then, there is also reality. Since engineering was mentioned, see the programs available at VCU, ODU, and VMI. And there are some targeted engineering programs at some of Virginia’s HBCUs, Norfolk State University and Virginia State University. And at small privates like Randolph-Macon.

OP here.

Y’all may disagree all you want but I have seen more and more Virginia kids heading to the OOS public schools like UMCP, Pitt, UDel, etc.

Am I the only one seeing this trend? Have you all not seen the threads comparing JMU and OOS public such as “JMU vs Pitt”?

A[b]ctually, you haven't' because OOS has become obscenely expensive.

+1. UCLA is now 76K OOS. UVA is 37K. Families don't go OOS unless they have to. you are trolling