Anonymous
11/14/2023 19:42
Subject: Re:Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is DC -they are at every school.
FFS Lake woebegone again. You realize that kids in the DMV are not inherently smarter than kids elsewhere?
The high concentration of wealthy, credentialed people around here suggests that they are.
Since when did your bank account measure your intelligence?
dp.. then don't look at income. Look at how many educated people there are around here.
Several counties in the DC area listed.'
https://247wallst.com/special-report/2021/09/03/most-educated-counties-in-the-united-states/
Anonymous
11/14/2023 19:27
Subject: Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is the assumption that a STEM career is the only/most desirable path?
Look at the starting and mid career pay for those with just undergrads, and compare it to other undergrads
I didn’t major in a STEM field and will have $285,000 in stock vest tomorrow. That’s after tax. My income is $1.4 million this year.
But sure.
That's nice. Your job must not involve data analysis.
Hilarious.This tool seems to think that $1.4 million is an income to boast about.
It’s more than you make. And don’t lie and say it isn’t.
Anonymous
11/14/2023 19:23
Subject: Re:Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is DC -they are at every school.
FFS Lake woebegone again. You realize that kids in the DMV are not inherently smarter than kids elsewhere?
The high concentration of wealthy, credentialed people around here suggests that they are.
Since when did your bank account measure your intelligence?
Anonymous
11/14/2023 19:23
Subject: Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is the assumption that a STEM career is the only/most desirable path?
Look at the starting and mid career pay for those with just undergrads, and compare it to other undergrads
I didn’t major in a STEM field and will have $285,000 in stock vest tomorrow. That’s after tax. My income is $1.4 million this year.
But sure.
That's nice. Your job must not involve data analysis.
Hilarious.This tool seems to think that $1.4 million is an income to boast about.
Anonymous
11/14/2023 15:46
Subject: Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can students be better served in public schools when their class sizes are significantly larger (even the classes in the magnet programs)?
For highly gifted, public magnets are a better fit - more advanced curriculum and larger peer group.
Public if they can test into the attentive programs.
One kid wanted to remain with MS cohort stayed with zone school (WJ APEX program) felt challenged and had college success.
Sibling, 99th percentile Mensa kid, did Blair and loving thriving as a junior in STEM in college.
Anonymous
11/14/2023 15:37
Subject: Re:Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is DC -they are at every school.
FFS Lake woebegone again. You realize that kids in the DMV are not inherently smarter than kids elsewhere?
The high concentration of wealthy, credentialed people around here suggests that they are.
There are plenty of stupid people who make good money. And plenty of smart people who don’t.
.. but what do you think the averages look like for different groups? I know statistical reasoning is cognitively difficult, but it's not like this hasn't been a well studied field.
Anonymous
11/14/2023 15:35
Subject: Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Demographics being what they are, the *average* student at the fancier privates -- and some of the non-fancy privates -- is going to be 90th percentile. IQ is highly heritable, and parents that care enough about education to spend private school tuition dollars and have the dollars to spend are going to typically provide a more enriched environment, so the boost comes in both directions.
For what it's worth, I have two 99th percentile kids that are doing very well at a no-name Classical Christian school; the public magnet programs for which they would otherwise have qualified have smoked the techno-crack, and those kids are 2E enough that the environment would have severely impacted their learning.
For what it's worth, I have two 99th percentile kids that are doing very well at a no-name Classical Christian school; the public magnet programs for which they would otherwise have qualified have smoked the techno-crack, and those kids are 2E enough that the environment would have severely impacted their learning.
Anonymous
11/14/2023 15:07
Subject: Re:Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is DC -they are at every school.
FFS Lake woebegone again. You realize that kids in the DMV are not inherently smarter than kids elsewhere?
The high concentration of wealthy, credentialed people around here suggests that they are.
There are plenty of stupid people who make good money. And plenty of smart people who don’t.
Anonymous
11/14/2023 15:06
Subject: Re:Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is DC -they are at every school.
FFS Lake woebegone again. You realize that kids in the DMV are not inherently smarter than kids elsewhere?
The high concentration of wealthy, credentialed people around here suggests that they are.
Anonymous
11/14/2023 15:04
Subject: Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can students be better served in public schools when their class sizes are significantly larger (even the classes in the magnet programs)?
Easily
For one math and science are 100 percent taught at higher levels in public there is no private in the DMV that compares
Mix in religious privates and the teachings not anywhere near the best education
We’ve already been through this. The magnet programs and the top private schools are equivalent when it comes to math and science.
No, they are not. The magnets run circles around the top privates when it comes to math and science
When we ask for evidence, are you going to show us those competitions again?
It was shown to you many many times. All the STEM competitions be it AMC8, AMC10, AMC12, Mathcounts, Science bowl, Math Olympiads, Science Olympiads, Intel/Regeneron Science etc.. they are all dominated by public schools. Private schools barely registered in the radar except for the Harker school in California.
I’m sure it’s irrelevant that only 10% of students in this country go to private schools to begin with.
And of those, only 24% went to nonsectarian schools. So the population of students who go to secular schools—which include the vast majority of top private schools that might compete in these competitions—is all of roughly 2% of the country‘s students.
So representation at these competitions is not the persuasive data point you think it is.
Most private schools don't enter. It's not a thing.
Yep. And it has nothing to do with the quality of their programs. PP needs a new argument.
The good, top ones do enter these competitions. They just cannot compete with the good publics.
Repeating it over and over doesn’t make it true. Can you give us actual examples? A list of competitions doesn’t count.
Anonymous
11/14/2023 14:34
Subject: Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can students be better served in public schools when their class sizes are significantly larger (even the classes in the magnet programs)?
Easily
For one math and science are 100 percent taught at higher levels in public there is no private in the DMV that compares
Mix in religious privates and the teachings not anywhere near the best education
We’ve already been through this. The magnet programs and the top private schools are equivalent when it comes to math and science.
No, they are not. The magnets run circles around the top privates when it comes to math and science
When we ask for evidence, are you going to show us those competitions again?
It was shown to you many many times. All the STEM competitions be it AMC8, AMC10, AMC12, Mathcounts, Science bowl, Math Olympiads, Science Olympiads, Intel/Regeneron Science etc.. they are all dominated by public schools. Private schools barely registered in the radar except for the Harker school in California.
I’m sure it’s irrelevant that only 10% of students in this country go to private schools to begin with.
And of those, only 24% went to nonsectarian schools. So the population of students who go to secular schools—which include the vast majority of top private schools that might compete in these competitions—is all of roughly 2% of the country‘s students.
So representation at these competitions is not the persuasive data point you think it is.
Most private schools don't enter. It's not a thing.
Yep. And it has nothing to do with the quality of their programs. PP needs a new argument.
The good, top ones do enter these competitions. They just cannot compete with the good publics.
Competition is sooo... proletariat... yawn and pass
LMAO let the publics fight for that plastic trophy
Anonymous
11/14/2023 14:33
Subject: Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can students be better served in public schools when their class sizes are significantly larger (even the classes in the magnet programs)?
Easily
For one math and science are 100 percent taught at higher levels in public there is no private in the DMV that compares
Mix in religious privates and the teachings not anywhere near the best education
We’ve already been through this. The magnet programs and the top private schools are equivalent when it comes to math and science.
No, they are not. The magnets run circles around the top privates when it comes to math and science
When we ask for evidence, are you going to show us those competitions again?
It was shown to you many many times. All the STEM competitions be it AMC8, AMC10, AMC12, Mathcounts, Science bowl, Math Olympiads, Science Olympiads, Intel/Regeneron Science etc.. they are all dominated by public schools. Private schools barely registered in the radar except for the Harker school in California.
I’m sure it’s irrelevant that only 10% of students in this country go to private schools to begin with.
And of those, only 24% went to nonsectarian schools. So the population of students who go to secular schools—which include the vast majority of top private schools that might compete in these competitions—is all of roughly 2% of the country‘s students.
So representation at these competitions is not the persuasive data point you think it is.
Most private schools don't enter. It's not a thing.
Yep. And it has nothing to do with the quality of their programs. PP needs a new argument.
The good, top ones do enter these competitions. They just cannot compete with the good publics.
Competition is sooo... proletariat... yawn and pass
Anonymous
11/14/2023 14:31
Subject: Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can students be better served in public schools when their class sizes are significantly larger (even the classes in the magnet programs)?
Easily
For one math and science are 100 percent taught at higher levels in public there is no private in the DMV that compares
Mix in religious privates and the teachings not anywhere near the best education
We’ve already been through this. The magnet programs and the top private schools are equivalent when it comes to math and science.
No, they are not. The magnets run circles around the top privates when it comes to math and science
When we ask for evidence, are you going to show us those competitions again?
Private schools do not concern themselves with competition, thats for the proleteriat class
It was shown to you many many times. All the STEM competitions be it AMC8, AMC10, AMC12, Mathcounts, Science bowl, Math Olympiads, Science Olympiads, Intel/Regeneron Science etc.. they are all dominated by public schools. Private schools barely registered in the radar except for the Harker school in California.
I’m sure it’s irrelevant that only 10% of students in this country go to private schools to begin with.
And of those, only 24% went to nonsectarian schools. So the population of students who go to secular schools—which include the vast majority of top private schools that might compete in these competitions—is all of roughly 2% of the country‘s students.
So representation at these competitions is not the persuasive data point you think it is.
Most private schools don't enter. It's not a thing.
Yep. And it has nothing to do with the quality of their programs. PP needs a new argument.
Anonymous
11/14/2023 14:30
Subject: Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can students be better served in public schools when their class sizes are significantly larger (even the classes in the magnet programs)?
Easily
For one math and science are 100 percent taught at higher levels in public there is no private in the DMV that compares
Mix in religious privates and the teachings not anywhere near the best education
We’ve already been through this. The magnet programs and the top private schools are equivalent when it comes to math and science.
No, they are not. The magnets run circles around the top privates when it comes to math and science
When we ask for evidence, are you going to show us those competitions again?
It was shown to you many many times. All the STEM competitions be it AMC8, AMC10, AMC12, Mathcounts, Science bowl, Math Olympiads, Science Olympiads, Intel/Regeneron Science etc.. they are all dominated by public schools. Private schools barely registered in the radar except for the Harker school in California.
I’m sure it’s irrelevant that only 10% of students in this country go to private schools to begin with.
And of those, only 24% went to nonsectarian schools. So the population of students who go to secular schools—which include the vast majority of top private schools that might compete in these competitions—is all of roughly 2% of the country‘s students.
So representation at these competitions is not the persuasive data point you think it is.
Most private schools don't enter. It's not a thing.
Yep. And it has nothing to do with the quality of their programs. PP needs a new argument.
The good, top ones do enter these competitions. They just cannot compete with the good publics.
Anonymous
11/14/2023 14:27
Subject: Which private high schools have significant cohorts of gifted kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can students be better served in public schools when their class sizes are significantly larger (even the classes in the magnet programs)?
Easily
For one math and science are 100 percent taught at higher levels in public there is no private in the DMV that compares
Mix in religious privates and the teachings not anywhere near the best education
We’ve already been through this. The magnet programs and the top private schools are equivalent when it comes to math and science.
No, they are not. The magnets run circles around the top privates when it comes to math and science
When we ask for evidence, are you going to show us those competitions again?
It was shown to you many many times. All the STEM competitions be it AMC8, AMC10, AMC12, Mathcounts, Science bowl, Math Olympiads, Science Olympiads, Intel/Regeneron Science etc.. they are all dominated by public schools. Private schools barely registered in the radar except for the Harker school in California.
I’m sure it’s irrelevant that only 10% of students in this country go to private schools to begin with.
And of those, only 24% went to nonsectarian schools. So the population of students who go to secular schools—which include the vast majority of top private schools that might compete in these competitions—is all of roughly 2% of the country‘s students.
So representation at these competitions is not the persuasive data point you think it is.
Most private schools don't enter. It's not a thing.
The top ones do.
Just like most public schools don't enter.