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Anonymous wrote:Better idea.. Colleges should require scores. Period. Oh wait, that used to be the case.. wonder when the idiots showed up and changed that.

The dumbing down of America.

As evidenced by your posts.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better idea.. Colleges should require scores. Period. Oh wait, that used to be the case.. wonder when the idiots showed up and changed that.

The dumbing down of America.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better idea.. Colleges should require scores. Period. Oh wait, that used to be the case.. wonder when the idiots showed up and changed that.

The dumbing down of America.

Anonymous wrote:Better idea.. Colleges should require scores. Period. Oh wait, that used to be the case.. wonder when the idiots showed up and changed that.

Anonymous wrote:It is all so the testing companies (and the whole test prep Industry) make more money. I bet they and the wealthy parents would lobby against this.

(Should they only be allowed to take it once? Twice?)

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I think scores should be required, period.

The "doesn't test well" is a myth. My son with special needs didn't test well until we got him diagnosed, taught him organizational skills and half-medicated (he couldn't take the optimal dose of meds due to medical concerns, but a little was better than nothing).

The fact that you have a “special needs” child and the process of getting him help didn’t teach you a damn dose of empathy or understanding for similar or even worse off kids for whom the “solution” isn’t so neat and tidy says a lot about you. The universe tried to teach you a lesson to make you a better person and you failed.

No. You are wrong. The only way we can keep making progress in this world is to push the high-achieving people to the top of the chain, to give them opportunities to change the world.

I am humble enough to recognize that this may not be my family. My kids will find their place in the world, I don't worry about that. But as a species, we need to stay competitive, figure out a way to mitigate climate change, manage massive financial upheavals, travel to other planets, cure diseases, harness AI, etc. If you deliberately prevent the talented from rising, by eliminating the easiest, simplest and most efficient filters at our disposal, then you are NOT helping our species survive.

This isn't about my kid or your kid. It's about a more long-term approach to specie evolution.

I'm absolutely not wrong, you have a very narrow, black/white world view. Elite schools are filled with strong students. If a small percentage of them can't keep up or choose a different path, that doesn't mean the system is doomed. Talent is rising just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I think scores should be required, period.

The "doesn't test well" is a myth. My son with special needs didn't test well until we got him diagnosed, taught him organizational skills and half-medicated (he couldn't take the optimal dose of meds due to medical concerns, but a little was better than nothing).

The fact that you have a “special needs” child and the process of getting him help didn’t teach you a damn dose of empathy or understanding for similar or even worse off kids for whom the “solution” isn’t so neat and tidy says a lot about you. The universe tried to teach you a lesson to make you a better person and you failed.

No. You are wrong. The only way we can keep making progress in this world is to push the high-achieving people to the top of the chain, to give them opportunities to change the world.

I am humble enough to recognize that this may not be my family. My kids will find their place in the world, I don't worry about that. But as a species, we need to stay competitive, figure out a way to mitigate climate change, manage massive financial upheavals, travel to other planets, cure diseases, harness AI, etc. If you deliberately prevent the talented from rising, by eliminating the easiest, simplest and most efficient filters at our disposal, then you are NOT helping our species survive.

This isn't about my kid or your kid. It's about a more long-term approach to specie evolution.

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Anonymous wrote:You should get together with the poster that wants to enforce AP tests. Or are you that poster?🤔

I honestly don't get this mentality. It's as if they feel kids need to be punished for not living up to some artificial standard. Is there a strong correlation between collegiate success beyond a point with SAT scores? How much better does a kid who scores 1560 do than one who achieves 1500?

Now do GPAs.

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Anonymous wrote:You should get together with the poster that wants to enforce AP tests. Or are you that poster?🤔

I honestly don't get this mentality. It's as if they feel kids need to be punished for not living up to some artificial standard. Is there a strong correlation between collegiate success beyond a point with SAT scores? How much better does a kid who scores 1560 do than one who achieves 1500?

Anonymous wrote:You should get together with the poster that wants to enforce AP tests. Or are you that poster?🤔

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I think scores should be required, period.

The "doesn't test well" is a myth. My son with special needs didn't test well until we got him diagnosed, taught him organizational skills and half-medicated (he couldn't take the optimal dose of meds due to medical concerns, but a little was better than nothing).

Are you really trying to say that kids who don’t test well are lazy or something? Take your asinine theory and shove it.

I don’t think they’re lazy. I just don’t think they should be able to rely on litigious parents who use bulldozer tactics to knock down natural barriers that were designed to match capacity with suitable opportunity.

Your fancy wording leaves out equity. Neurodivergent kids can’t always perform the best on a test designed for neurotypical people. Do schools want to benefit from diversity or not?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I think scores should be required, period.

The "doesn't test well" is a myth. My son with special needs didn't test well until we got him diagnosed, taught him organizational skills and half-medicated (he couldn't take the optimal dose of meds due to medical concerns, but a little was better than nothing).

Are you really trying to say that kids who don’t test well are lazy or something? Take your asinine theory and shove it.

I don’t think they’re lazy. I just don’t think they should be able to rely on litigious parents who use bulldozer tactics to knock down natural barriers that were designed to match capacity with suitable opportunity.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I think scores should be required, period.

The "doesn't test well" is a myth. My son with special needs didn't test well until we got him diagnosed, taught him organizational skills and half-medicated (he couldn't take the optimal dose of meds due to medical concerns, but a little was better than nothing).

So, without significant intervention, your kid didn't test well. It required diagnosis, training, and medication. What about kids without the resources and time and knowledge to get those things? For whom standardized tests don't actually reflect their cognitive abilities or their knowledge?

PP you replied to. Too bad for them. I think we should have universal healthcare and neuropsychs should be covered by insurance. I think meds should be cheaper.

But it’s incredibly frustrating to dumb down the whole process just for a minority of kids.

***I would feel that way EVEN if my kid had bad scores!***

My native country has no accommodations or services in school for kids with disabilities. My ADHD hindered me significantly. But I do appreciate that they still hold students to high academic standards. It’s all about grades and test scores. No extra-curriculars, hooks or nonsense allowed.

Yes, yes we know where you are from. Could you put that in the OP next time and every time in these college threads so we can skip them? And feel free to send your child to college in India.