Anonymous
10/29/2023 12:01
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone post Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees.
I don’t understand your second paragraph.
Is there any way to learn which buildings are eligible for voucher residents? My building is fine but I want to know if it could potentially turn to sht like other places in the neighborhood.
All of them are required to take people w/o consideration of how rent is paid. This included condos rented out.
So is it just dumb luck that my building hasn't flipped? It could happen anywhere in the city
yes, it has. the density and size of buildings on connecticut and wisconsin makes it more obvious, but yes.
This is PP. My building seems like an ideal candidate for this horsesht, so we’ve been lucky so far.
Who’d you vote for in ‘20? The other Ward 3 candidate presciently called for an immediate voucher moratorium. Unfortunately he lost. Just think how much better it would be if we could set the clock back two years. Choose better next time.
I was in a different ward then. Plan to Anyone But Frumin this time.
ABF
Anonymous
10/29/2023 11:59
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone post Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees.
I don’t understand your second paragraph.
Is there any way to learn which buildings are eligible for voucher residents? My building is fine but I want to know if it could potentially turn to sht like other places in the neighborhood.
All of them are required to take people w/o consideration of how rent is paid. This included condos rented out.
So is it just dumb luck that my building hasn't flipped? It could happen anywhere in the city
yes, it has. the density and size of buildings on connecticut and wisconsin makes it more obvious, but yes.
This is PP. My building seems like an ideal candidate for this horsesht, so we’ve been lucky so far.
Who’d you vote for in ‘20? The other Ward 3 candidate presciently called for an immediate voucher moratorium. Unfortunately he lost. Just think how much better it would be if we could set the clock back two years. Choose better next time.
Anonymous
10/29/2023 11:55
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
Anonymous wrote:This is the wrong question. The question should be why are the letting this happen in our community?
A bigger question for me is why Ward 3 voters rejected the candidates who said "this is a problem and we need to do something to address it" and opted for the candidate who said "everything's great, we need to double down on all these policies."
The only thing I can think of is that the folks in single-family homes are so insulated from lower socio-economic folks in the apartments that they just didn't care that the city's policies were destroying those people's lives.
Anonymous
10/29/2023 11:49
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
If black people stopped killing black people DC would be the safest city in America.
Anonymous
10/29/2023 11:35
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone post [b]Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems[/b]?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third. [/quote]
I would like to see his talking points as well, with specificity. ^
When I called his office last week his aide mentioned them, but I need to read through.
What came across to me was there would be more responsibility on landlords, but that almost seemed like another typical DC cop out to me. This is a city created problem, starting with illegal value of these vouchers. The "solution" to the disaster they've made of upper connecticut, and potentially other buildings, needs to go much further than telling landlords to "do something". This city puts enough on landlords already.
Off to house shop outside the District line. DC sucks.
--DC Native[/quote]
What could landlords do that wouldn’t be considered discriminatory?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third. [/quote]
I would like to see his talking points as well, with specificity. ^
When I called his office last week his aide mentioned them, but I need to read through.
What came across to me was there would be more responsibility on landlords, but that almost seemed like another typical DC cop out to me. This is a city created problem, starting with illegal value of these vouchers. The "solution" to the disaster they've made of upper connecticut, and potentially other buildings, needs to go much further than telling landlords to "do something". This city puts enough on landlords already.
Off to house shop outside the District line. DC sucks.
--DC Native[/quote]
What could landlords do that wouldn’t be considered discriminatory?
Anonymous
10/29/2023 11:31
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
Our elected officials have no intention of doing anything about this voucher funded disaster. Absolutely nothing.
Anonymous
10/29/2023 11:23
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone post [b]Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems[/b]?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third. [/quote]
I would like to see his talking points as well, with specificity. ^
When I called his office last week his aide mentioned them, but I need to read through.
What came across to me was there would be more responsibility on landlords, but that almost seemed like another typical DC cop out to me. This is a city created problem, starting with illegal value of these vouchers. The "solution" to the disaster they've made of upper connecticut, and potentially other buildings, needs to go much further than telling landlords to "do something". This city puts enough on landlords already.
Off to house shop outside the District line. DC sucks.
--DC Native
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third. [/quote]
I would like to see his talking points as well, with specificity. ^
When I called his office last week his aide mentioned them, but I need to read through.
What came across to me was there would be more responsibility on landlords, but that almost seemed like another typical DC cop out to me. This is a city created problem, starting with illegal value of these vouchers. The "solution" to the disaster they've made of upper connecticut, and potentially other buildings, needs to go much further than telling landlords to "do something". This city puts enough on landlords already.
Off to house shop outside the District line. DC sucks.
--DC Native
Anonymous
10/29/2023 11:12
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone post Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees.
I don’t understand your second paragraph.
Is there any way to learn which buildings are eligible for voucher residents? My building is fine but I want to know if it could potentially turn to sht like other places in the neighborhood.
All of them are required to take people w/o consideration of how rent is paid. This included condos rented out.
So is it just dumb luck that my building hasn't flipped? It could happen anywhere in the city
yes, it has. the density and size of buildings on connecticut and wisconsin makes it more obvious, but yes.
This is PP. My building seems like an ideal candidate for this horsesht, so we’ve been lucky so far.
Anonymous
10/29/2023 11:07
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone post Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third. [/quote]
It's a HUD program. There can be no conditions placed on recipient for participation in services. They do not even need to open the door to social worker.
HUD only requires 2 contacts from a social worker per month, 1 in person. More here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/08/dc-paid-housing-chronic-homelessness/
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_First
There is a high rate of death by OD once people are isolated in apartments. There is not any effective addressing of the underlying mental illness and addiction that burned through social relationships so people ended up on street, or those that choose street party/tents/fent atmosphere over a 9-5. [/quote]
Nothing can happen without strong anti drug programs and support for parents including preK. [/quote]
This is the pp. Thank you to whomever posted the links. As I’m reading and learning about the theories behind these programs, I just want to clarify that I agree with the theory that people should not have to be “perfect” to be in the program, but instead I meant that we need to ramp up our “look the other way” reactions to drug use and our support for young families.
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third. [/quote]
It's a HUD program. There can be no conditions placed on recipient for participation in services. They do not even need to open the door to social worker.
HUD only requires 2 contacts from a social worker per month, 1 in person. More here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/08/dc-paid-housing-chronic-homelessness/
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_First
There is a high rate of death by OD once people are isolated in apartments. There is not any effective addressing of the underlying mental illness and addiction that burned through social relationships so people ended up on street, or those that choose street party/tents/fent atmosphere over a 9-5. [/quote]
Nothing can happen without strong anti drug programs and support for parents including preK. [/quote]
This is the pp. Thank you to whomever posted the links. As I’m reading and learning about the theories behind these programs, I just want to clarify that I agree with the theory that people should not have to be “perfect” to be in the program, but instead I meant that we need to ramp up our “look the other way” reactions to drug use and our support for young families.
Anonymous
10/29/2023 11:02
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
Since putting things in apartments didn't work why not in jail?
Anonymous
10/29/2023 10:56
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone post Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third. [/quote]
It's a HUD program. There can be no conditions placed on recipient for participation in services. They do not even need to open the door to social worker.
HUD only requires 2 contacts from a social worker per month, 1 in person. More here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/08/dc-paid-housing-chronic-homelessness/
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_First
There is a high rate of death by OD once people are isolated in apartments. There is not any effective addressing of the underlying mental illness and addiction that burned through social relationships so people ended up on street, or those that choose street party/tents/fent atmosphere over a 9-5. [/quote]
Nothing can happen without strong anti drug programs and support for parents including preK.
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third. [/quote]
It's a HUD program. There can be no conditions placed on recipient for participation in services. They do not even need to open the door to social worker.
HUD only requires 2 contacts from a social worker per month, 1 in person. More here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/08/dc-paid-housing-chronic-homelessness/
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_First
There is a high rate of death by OD once people are isolated in apartments. There is not any effective addressing of the underlying mental illness and addiction that burned through social relationships so people ended up on street, or those that choose street party/tents/fent atmosphere over a 9-5. [/quote]
Nothing can happen without strong anti drug programs and support for parents including preK.
Anonymous
10/29/2023 10:53
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone post Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third. [/quote]
It's a HUD program. There can be no conditions placed on recipient for participation in services. They do not even need to open the door to social worker.
HUD only requires 2 contacts from a social worker per month, 1 in person. More here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/08/dc-paid-housing-chronic-homelessness/
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_First
There is a high rate of death by OD once people are isolated in apartments. There is not any effective addressing of the underlying mental illness and addiction that burned through social relationships so people ended up on street, or those that choose street party/tents/fent atmosphere over a 9-5.
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third. [/quote]
It's a HUD program. There can be no conditions placed on recipient for participation in services. They do not even need to open the door to social worker.
HUD only requires 2 contacts from a social worker per month, 1 in person. More here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/08/dc-paid-housing-chronic-homelessness/
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_First
There is a high rate of death by OD once people are isolated in apartments. There is not any effective addressing of the underlying mental illness and addiction that burned through social relationships so people ended up on street, or those that choose street party/tents/fent atmosphere over a 9-5.
Anonymous
10/29/2023 10:49
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone post Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees.
I don’t understand your second paragraph.
Is there any way to learn which buildings are eligible for voucher residents? My building is fine but I want to know if it could potentially turn to sht like other places in the neighborhood.
All of them are required to take people w/o consideration of how rent is paid. This included condos rented out.
So is it just dumb luck that my building hasn't flipped? It could happen anywhere in the city
yes, it has. the density and size of buildings on connecticut and wisconsin makes it more obvious, but yes.
Anonymous
10/29/2023 10:30
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
[quote=Anonymous]Can someone post Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third.
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees. [/quote]
So I just looked into Housing First. It’s a DC-based national nonprofit that advocates for ending homelessness by placing people in apartments. They do not worry about wraparound services. I think this is where people need to direct action as well. Who doesn’t want to end homelessness? The city has made strides, but look at all the unintended consequences. A city as wealthy as DC needs to start funding whatever comes second and third.
Anonymous
10/29/2023 10:24
Subject: Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone post Frumin’s talking points on voucher problems?
The problem is that you can’t put the people placed through Housing First in the cross hairs bc of a huge systemic problem in the government. We are not seeing the forest for the trees.
I don’t understand your second paragraph.
Is there any way to learn which buildings are eligible for voucher residents? My building is fine but I want to know if it could potentially turn to sht like other places in the neighborhood.
All of them are required to take people w/o consideration of how rent is paid. This included condos rented out.
So is it just dumb luck that my building hasn't flipped? It could happen anywhere in the city