Anonymous
Post 10/20/2023 03:06     Subject: Re:HoCo Madness
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Anonymous wrote:I have a freshman at Whitman and don't understand the history. My kid didn't do the busses and all that stuff because apparently "freshman don't get to do that." He did go to the game and the HoCo festival thing that happened after the game, which he said was boring. But why doesn't Whitman have a dance - is there a story there? Has all this other stuff gotten so over the top in part because there isn't even a dance?


History is that dance ended with COVID. The first year back, they didn't resurrect the dance. Instead they have a school-sponsored party on the baseball field after the football game on Friday night. That has now gone on for three years, and it seems like the kids enjoy it (bounce houses, etc.). On the Saturday, self-organized groups do these self-organized gatherings that involve some combination of dressing up (or down, depending how you feel about those dresses), dinner, trip to monuments, parties, etc. And without the dance to anchor it, the ugliness really comes through. Sounds like a lot of kids don't go overboard, and kudos so those with kids who don't transgress. To me, it seems like a parent-sanctioned weekend of debauchery - things going on that other weekends they'd frown upon.


A School wide party sounds like a lot of fun- much more fun than a dance where nobody dances. Do the kids enjoy it?


It sounds more inclusive but these parents are messing that up by creating these exclusive side parties.


+1

I heard most kids go to the dance for 30 minutes, not even a full hour. Snap some selfies and post pics on social media and leave. No one dances. It’s really lame. It’s all about the pre dance dinner and after party. I heard some parents rent limos it’s gotten out of hand. Yes, these after parties are not inclusive. Some are only for the popular crowd and exclude all the not so popular and nerdier kids. It’s sad it has come to this.


This has ALWAYS been life in high school even back in the 90’s. You just see it more because of social media.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 21:28     Subject: HoCo Madness
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Anonymous wrote:My HS back in our 1980 event involved limos, coke, clubbing and hotel rooms. This is tame. We actually had an after party at a disco till 4 am with a full open bar.

You parents pretending to be shocked are crazy. We actually had kids caught having sex in sixth grade at school.

The 1970s and early 1980 were wild. Jungle Juice and Queludes. I went to a keg party after finals week in ninth grade


Yeah but did the parents organize it all?


This isn't the 1980s. There was also racist, anti-LGBT and sexist talk that was accepted and big hair and hairspray. You are also unfathomably old to be on this board. Are there parents of K12 kids who were teens in the 80s?!


Of course! I was in HS 1985-89 and have kids in high school, as do most of my friends.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 21:21     Subject: HoCo Madness
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My HS back in our 1980 event involved limos, coke, clubbing and hotel rooms. This is tame. We actually had an after party at a disco till 4 am with a full open bar.

You parents pretending to be shocked are crazy. We actually had kids caught having sex in sixth grade at school.

The 1970s and early 1980 were wild. Jungle Juice and Queludes. I went to a keg party after finals week in ninth grade


Yeah but did the parents organize it all?


This isn't the 1980s. There was also racist, anti-LGBT and sexist talk that was accepted and big hair and hairspray. You are also unfathomably old to be on this board. Are there parents of K12 kids who were teens in the 80s?!


Your math may be off. I had kids at mid 30s and they are in high school now. Was a teen in late 80s. And I'm definitely not the oldest parent at the school.


Yep- graduated high school in 1989 and have an 8th grader.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 19:53     Subject: HoCo Madness
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My HS back in our 1980 event involved limos, coke, clubbing and hotel rooms. This is tame. We actually had an after party at a disco till 4 am with a full open bar.

You parents pretending to be shocked are crazy. We actually had kids caught having sex in sixth grade at school.

The 1970s and early 1980 were wild. Jungle Juice and Queludes. I went to a keg party after finals week in ninth grade


Yeah but did the parents organize it all?


This isn't the 1980s. There was also racist, anti-LGBT and sexist talk that was accepted and big hair and hairspray. You are also unfathomably old to be on this board. Are there parents of K12 kids who were teens in the 80s?!


Your math may be off. I had kids at mid 30s and they are in high school now. Was a teen in late 80s. And I'm definitely not the oldest parent at the school.


I have a 6th grade and a 9th grader and turned 13 in 1986. I’m about average age among my kids parents, certainly not “unfathomably old”!!!
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 18:23     Subject: HoCo Madness
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Anonymous wrote:Parents are a big part of the problem. They are funding the limos, hotel rooms, pot and the alcohol. They problem is there are no consequences for the parents when someone is injured or killed. Some parents SUCK and raise kids that suck. The entitlement of some of the people is outrageous.


It's not true that there are no consequences for parents that do this.

Just this July, a mother in Olney got in trouble with police and is in serious debt due to a "rager" she hosted for teens: https://moco360.media/2023/07/10/underage-rager-at-olney-home-nets-guilty-plea-for-mom-citations-for-18-teens/


Sorry, I'm correcting myself. She faced up to $87,000 in fines but because she pleaded guilty, she got $1000 and had to serve some community service.

So PP, you're right! The consequences for this kind of thing are not severe enough and these parents should not be treated with such leniency.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 18:20     Subject: HoCo Madness
Anonymous wrote:Parents are a big part of the problem. They are funding the limos, hotel rooms, pot and the alcohol. They problem is there are no consequences for the parents when someone is injured or killed. Some parents SUCK and raise kids that suck. The entitlement of some of the people is outrageous.


It's not true that there are no consequences for parents that do this.

Just this July, a mother in Olney got in trouble with police and is in serious debt due to a "rager" she hosted for teens: https://moco360.media/2023/07/10/underage-rager-at-olney-home-nets-guilty-plea-for-mom-citations-for-18-teens/
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 16:34     Subject: HoCo Madness
Anonymous wrote:I heard Wootton canceled their dance. Lack of attendance


Wootton has no school spirit
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 16:31     Subject: HoCo Madness
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Anonymous wrote:Um yeah no this is not how HoCo went in my household.

Junior year. He wore an outfit from his closet. We dropped him off a school where he met up with his friends. He and four friends left around nine to go to a friend's house (parents home) and we picked him up at ten. No dinner. No party bus. A few iphone photos before he left.

Who is paying for all this for your daughter? Stop paying if you don't like it.


Oh also. We are in the DCC, not Whitman. Maybe that is the difference. Most kids can't afford to blow money like you describe. We never would have bought in Whitman - overwhelmingly wealthy and white.


Whitman sounds so incredibly toxic on several levels because of the loads of disposable money.


I am the OP. I've long used this board for info on MCPS and college/university admission (the latter I'm not sure has been helpful, but that board is entertaining). These sorts of comments about Whitman frustrate me. To the person who said "We would never have bought in Whitman" - you have no idea how my family ended up in the Whitman district. Not everyone has the same narrative of "have kids, buy a house and base that purchase on the school district." We did not end up in our domicile that way. In fact, we didn't even choose it. And some might not consider us white, although some do (depends what school of thought you come from and what form you're filling in).

Sometimes, in condemning people's so-called "choices," people on here can really indicate lack of understanding that others' paths may not reflect theirs. It's a very narrow way of looking at things to assume all families are/were in the same situation as you, and thus any discontent they have is a result of them making different (i.e., wrong) choices. It's sanctimonious.

Back to the topic at hand, I agree the no dance thing is weird, and do wish they school-sponsored event (whether the dance, carnival or something else) was Saturday night so that kids who wanted something structured to do had that choice. I don't like what HoCo has become, and I think the person on here who said it's a parent problem is right - so would require collective parent action to change, which would take time, but is possible.


Well said.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 15:29     Subject: HoCo Madness
Parents are a big part of the problem. They are funding the limos, hotel rooms, pot and the alcohol. They problem is there are no consequences for the parents when someone is injured or killed. Some parents SUCK and raise kids that suck. The entitlement of some of the people is outrageous.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 15:20     Subject: Re:HoCo Madness
My kids are not active on social media. It makes life easier. They had normal HoCo, normal prom, normal school dances, field trips, senior celebrations etc.

The problem is not kids. The problem is parents. They are funding these nonsense things.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 15:03     Subject: HoCo Madness
I heard Wootton canceled their dance. Lack of attendance
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 14:53     Subject: HoCo Madness
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My HS back in our 1980 event involved limos, coke, clubbing and hotel rooms. This is tame. We actually had an after party at a disco till 4 am with a full open bar.

You parents pretending to be shocked are crazy. We actually had kids caught having sex in sixth grade at school.

The 1970s and early 1980 were wild. Jungle Juice and Queludes. I went to a keg party after finals week in ninth grade


Yeah but did the parents organize it all?


This isn't the 1980s. There was also racist, anti-LGBT and sexist talk that was accepted and big hair and hairspray. You are also unfathomably old to be on this board. Are there parents of K12 kids who were teens in the 80s?!


Your math may be off. I had kids at mid 30s and they are in high school now. Was a teen in late 80s. And I'm definitely not the oldest parent at the school.


I think it depends on what part of the county you are in. HS parents in our area are that age range, but our child does an activity in another part of the county and all the parents are millennials.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 08:41     Subject: HoCo Madness
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My HS back in our 1980 event involved limos, coke, clubbing and hotel rooms. This is tame. We actually had an after party at a disco till 4 am with a full open bar.

You parents pretending to be shocked are crazy. We actually had kids caught having sex in sixth grade at school.

The 1970s and early 1980 were wild. Jungle Juice and Queludes. I went to a keg party after finals week in ninth grade


Yeah but did the parents organize it all?


This isn't the 1980s. There was also racist, anti-LGBT and sexist talk that was accepted and big hair and hairspray. You are also unfathomably old to be on this board. Are there parents of K12 kids who were teens in the 80s?!


Lol
You sounds like my daughter (Gen Z)!
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 08:08     Subject: HoCo Madness
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My HS back in our 1980 event involved limos, coke, clubbing and hotel rooms. This is tame. We actually had an after party at a disco till 4 am with a full open bar.

You parents pretending to be shocked are crazy. We actually had kids caught having sex in sixth grade at school.

The 1970s and early 1980 were wild. Jungle Juice and Queludes. I went to a keg party after finals week in ninth grade


Yeah but did the parents organize it all?


This isn't the 1980s. There was also racist, anti-LGBT and sexist talk that was accepted and big hair and hairspray. You are also unfathomably old to be on this board. Are there parents of K12 kids who were teens in the 80s?!


Your math may be off. I had kids at mid 30s and they are in high school now. Was a teen in late 80s. And I'm definitely not the oldest parent at the school.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2023 08:04     Subject: HoCo Madness
Anonymous wrote:My HS back in our 1980 event involved limos, coke, clubbing and hotel rooms. This is tame. We actually had an after party at a disco till 4 am with a full open bar.

You parents pretending to be shocked are crazy. We actually had kids caught having sex in sixth grade at school.

The 1970s and early 1980 were wild. Jungle Juice and Queludes. I went to a keg party after finals week in ninth grade


I went to high-school back then. I remember some people had hotel rooms but I didn't know anyone who was into drugs. Sure, there were people at my HS who were of course but not the same kids who went to these events. There was however alcohol and at 18 were old enough to legally drink, vote, and serve our country.