Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 19:30     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:I love how VT is considered a safety by NOVA parents. Keep the laughs coming!


Seriously. Some rude awakenings are in store.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 15:31     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA and WM are a complete waste of time. I have it on good a good source that nearly every applicant in APS, FCPS, and LCPS gets tossed out the window at UVA at the get go if you aren’t in the top 5% of your class.

VT MAYBE, but the business school only admit 20% and you need to be in above 93% for math SAT. They don’t care much about English scores.


For VT, do you apply straight to the business school with your initial application, or do you get into VT and then apply to the business school? How does it work? Thanks!

You must apply to the business school with initial application.


Thanks for the quick reply. And if they are rejected by business school, does that mean they are outright rejected? Or can you be rejected by business and accepted as something else?

Sorry if these are stupid questions. I was not a business major, but I recall that at my school, business school prospects didn't apply to the business school intil the end of freshman year, or something like that. some got in, others defaulted to another major, and I assume others who didn't get in transferred out.

DS will apply 11/15 so I don’t know for certain but my understanding is you used to be able to ask for a second choice major when applying but you cannot anymore.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 14:09     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA and WM are a complete waste of time. I have it on good a good source that nearly every applicant in APS, FCPS, and LCPS gets tossed out the window at UVA at the get go if you aren’t in the top 5% of your class.

VT MAYBE, but the business school only admit 20% and you need to be in above 93% for math SAT. They don’t care much about English scores.


For VT, do you apply straight to the business school with your initial application, or do you get into VT and then apply to the business school? How does it work? Thanks!

You must apply to the business school with initial application.


Thanks for the quick reply. And if they are rejected by business school, does that mean they are outright rejected? Or can you be rejected by business and accepted as something else?

Sorry if these are stupid questions. I was not a business major, but I recall that at my school, business school prospects didn't apply to the business school intil the end of freshman year, or something like that. some got in, others defaulted to another major, and I assume others who didn't get in transferred out.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 14:06     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA and WM are a complete waste of time. I have it on good a good source that nearly every applicant in APS, FCPS, and LCPS gets tossed out the window at UVA at the get go if you aren’t in the top 5% of your class.

VT MAYBE, but the business school only admit 20% and you need to be in above 93% for math SAT. They don’t care much about English scores.


For VT, do you apply straight to the business school with your initial application, or do you get into VT and then apply to the business school? How does it work? Thanks!

You must apply to the business school with initial application.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 14:03     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:UVA and WM are a complete waste of time. I have it on good a good source that nearly every applicant in APS, FCPS, and LCPS gets tossed out the window at UVA at the get go if you aren’t in the top 5% of your class.

VT MAYBE, but the business school only admit 20% and you need to be in above 93% for math SAT. They don’t care much about English scores.


For VT, do you apply straight to the business school with your initial application, or do you get into VT and then apply to the business school? How does it work? Thanks!
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 13:41     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA and WM are a complete waste of time. I have it on good a good source that nearly every applicant in APS, FCPS, and LCPS gets tossed out the window at UVA at the get go if you aren’t in the top 5% of your class.

VT MAYBE, but the business school only admit 20% and you need to be in above 93% for math SAT. They don’t care much about English scores.


WM favors male applicants and strongly favors ED with demonstrated interest. I think OP’s kid has a 50/50 chance or better in ED at WM assuming an interview, full senior year visit on whatever the day is that they set aside for prospective business majors and a strong supplemental essay. But a lot depends on rigor, where the Bs are, ECs, personal statement, recs, etc. I don’t see it in RD. If your kid try’s, make sure they know 1st semester senior gradesj will count for a lot.


Can we see the underlying math for how you got 50/50 odds?

Don’t be ridiculous. You’re asking opinions from people who for the most part have some insight or experience. Nothing is a mathematical certainty when it comes to college admissions. (and she said “50/50 chance or better”)
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 12:59     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA and WM are a complete waste of time. I have it on good a good source that nearly every applicant in APS, FCPS, and LCPS gets tossed out the window at UVA at the get go if you aren’t in the top 5% of your class.

VT MAYBE, but the business school only admit 20% and you need to be in above 93% for math SAT. They don’t care much about English scores.


WM favors male applicants and strongly favors ED with demonstrated interest. I think OP’s kid has a 50/50 chance or better in ED at WM assuming an interview, full senior year visit on whatever the day is that they set aside for prospective business majors and a strong supplemental essay. But a lot depends on rigor, where the Bs are, ECs, personal statement, recs, etc. I don’t see it in RD. If your kid try’s, make sure they know 1st semester senior gradesj will count for a lot.


Can we see the underlying math for how you got 50/50 odds?
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 12:59     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

APS doesn’t rank students. How can someone claim anyone outside of the top 5% gets excluded?
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 12:57     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

I love how VT is considered a safety by NOVA parents. Keep the laughs coming!
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 12:56     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Students applying from NOVA are a dime a dozen with those stats, or higher. What else makes your kid stand out? What are his hobbies? Interests? What is his main thing? His scores won't make him unique, OP. He makes himself unique as a person.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 12:52     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD has a 1600 SAT, 4.2 (11th grade) FCPS, NMSF, 13 APs, and good ECs. Not sure if DD would get into UVA, WM, or VT


Your kid will get into all of those schools.

It's worth applying to UVA. I know a 1580 (NMS), 4.3 GPA rejected ED to UVA, so you never know. But I'd say confident yes to W&M and VT.


What?


My kid with very similar stats did not get into VT. Didn’t apply to W&M.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 12:21     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD has a 1600 SAT, 4.2 (11th grade) FCPS, NMSF, 13 APs, and good ECs. Not sure if DD would get into UVA, WM, or VT


Your kid will get into all of those schools.

It's worth applying to UVA. I know a 1580 (NMS), 4.3 GPA rejected ED to UVA, so you never know. But I'd say confident yes to W&M and VT.


What?

Yes, your kid should get into W&M and VT.


Why WM (RD) and not UVA? The SHEV Report shows incoming GPAs and scores are almost identical. I thing UVA’s GPA is .03 above WMs. And test scores are within 20 points. In some cases WM’s are actually higher.

Would agree the kid could get an ED bump and a small male student bump at WM. But not enough to make him competitive in RD. And OP isn’t talking about ED.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 12:18     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:UVA and WM are a complete waste of time. I have it on good a good source that nearly every applicant in APS, FCPS, and LCPS gets tossed out the window at UVA at the get go if you aren’t in the top 5% of your class.

VT MAYBE, but the business school only admit 20% and you need to be in above 93% for math SAT. They don’t care much about English scores.


WM favors male applicants and strongly favors ED with demonstrated interest. I think OP’s kid has a 50/50 chance or better in ED at WM assuming an interview, full senior year visit on whatever the day is that they set aside for prospective business majors and a strong supplemental essay. But a lot depends on rigor, where the Bs are, ECs, personal statement, recs, etc. I don’t see it in RD. If your kid try’s, make sure they know 1st semester senior grades will count for a lot.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 11:37     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing people are not considering is that for all these schools the published “average” GPAs are their FINAL GPA. Right now all of the colleges are just looking at 9-11. Presumably kids with heavy AP loads will graduate with a GPA higher than what their transcript shows today.

Untrue


This is a confirmed fact. Final GPA for statistical reporting is all that is submitted for CDS.

Then you can say "for the CDS" but NOT for "all" the published GPAs. There's another thread right now that lists the EA stats for first round admits at Auburn - those are NOT final GPA's, obviously only junior year GPAs. Many many other schools tout the GPA's for their new admits long before their senior year is over.


Yea but even Auburn will submit their CDS when final numbers come in. The CDS is what’s used for all kids of statistics that are pushed out there.

Not ALL. Presumably yes for CDS. But PPs mentioned the AO blogs and all the "real time" report of admission statistics - none of these take senior year grades into account.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2023 11:31     Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing people are not considering is that for all these schools the published “average” GPAs are their FINAL GPA. Right now all of the colleges are just looking at 9-11. Presumably kids with heavy AP loads will graduate with a GPA higher than what their transcript shows today.

Untrue


This is a confirmed fact. Final GPA for statistical reporting is all that is submitted for CDS.

Then you can say "for the CDS" but NOT for "all" the published GPAs. There's another thread right now that lists the EA stats for first round admits at Auburn - those are NOT final GPA's, obviously only junior year GPAs. Many many other schools tout the GPA's for their new admits long before their senior year is over.


Yea but even Auburn will submit their CDS when final numbers come in. The CDS is what’s used for all kids of statistics that are pushed out there.