Anonymous
10/09/2023 21:35
Subject: S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone who isn't white.
No. Anyone who doesn’t look white. That’s my definition
I look white but consider myself POC. It’s more than just skin color.
Well that’s a point of contention.
I'm sure most white passing Hispanics/ Middle Eastern people consider themselves POC as well.
White LatinX (previously known as “white Hispanics”), are just whites.
Anonymous
10/09/2023 21:34
Subject: Re:S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
The correct term is BIPOC, not “POC.”
Anonymous
10/09/2023 21:10
Subject: S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone who isn't white.
No. Anyone who doesn’t look white. That’s my definition
I look white but consider myself POC. It’s more than just skin color.
Well that’s a point of contention.
I'm sure most white passing Hispanics/ Middle Eastern people consider themselves POC as well.
Anonymous
10/09/2023 20:57
Subject: Re:S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:Black. Just black. Really, just black.
You might get a few other people of different races using the term, especially social justice warriors eager for a bit of limelight, bit in practical application it's primarily used by black people to refer to black people. It's the latest version of the various terms used to describe black people over the years.
The real reason for the emergence of people of color in the last few years despite its startling closeness to "colored people" is that blacks are realizing they no longer quite hold the political status as the permanent minority group in America, especially with the rapid growth of the Hispanic population in the last 20 years to become the biggest non white group, so shifting the language to people of color is way of trying to perpetuate that political clout that is bound to fade sooner or later. But at the end of the day, it's a term mainly used by black people to refer to black people.
There's a word that Black people use to refer to Black people specifically (besides "n***a" ). That work is "Black" . POC is used to refer other people that have relevant common experiences of marginalization.
The term BIPOC has found favor recently, Black, Indigenous, and People of Color.
Anonymous
10/09/2023 20:46
Subject: Re:S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Black. Just black. Really, just black.
You might get a few other people of different races using the term, especially social justice warriors eager for a bit of limelight, bit in practical application it's primarily used by black people to refer to black people. It's the latest version of the various terms used to describe black people over the years.
The real reason for the emergence of people of color in the last few years despite its startling closeness to "colored people" is that blacks are realizing they no longer quite hold the political status as the permanent minority group in America, especially with the rapid growth of the Hispanic population in the last 20 years to become the biggest non white group, so shifting the language to people of color is way of trying to perpetuate that political clout that is bound to fade sooner or later. But at the end of the day, it's a term mainly used by black people to refer to black people.
You might get a few other people of different races using the term, especially social justice warriors eager for a bit of limelight, bit in practical application it's primarily used by black people to refer to black people. It's the latest version of the various terms used to describe black people over the years.
The real reason for the emergence of people of color in the last few years despite its startling closeness to "colored people" is that blacks are realizing they no longer quite hold the political status as the permanent minority group in America, especially with the rapid growth of the Hispanic population in the last 20 years to become the biggest non white group, so shifting the language to people of color is way of trying to perpetuate that political clout that is bound to fade sooner or later. But at the end of the day, it's a term mainly used by black people to refer to black people.
Anonymous
10/09/2023 20:40
Subject: S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:Title says it. I consider myself a POC, I’m not black though, I’m a Pacific Islander. How is POC defined these days?
Stop lying palagi.
Anonymous
10/09/2023 19:33
Subject: S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Title says it. I consider myself a POC, I’m not black though, I’m a Pacific Islander. How is POC defined these days?
POC is an odd term. What would be a better alternative? Non-White? Colored? Underprivileged? Non-Caucasian?
Global Majority. Puts a finer point on how many of us there are relative to the power we wield.
I like this!
Anonymous
10/09/2023 19:31
Subject: Re:S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:I find the POC term very disrespectful to Black people in the US. Yes, there is a history of discrimination in the US against groups such as Italians, Latinos, Asians, and Arabs. But the crimes against Black people have been a thousand times worse. I join the chorus of those who say that POC is a useless acronym.
I’m a Black American — so I already have words that I can use to comfortably and respectfully describe that identity and that specific history. I found POC to be a useful and meaningful identifier when I was one of a handful of URM students at a college with a predominantly white student body and faculty. There were small numbers of Mexican American and Puerto Rican students, tiny numbers of Native American students, and small numbers of Asian American students. Although we had different backgrounds and experiences, as POC, we often reached out to each other as a welcoming and diverse support network. POC — to me — suggests an inclusiveness which can have both meaning and value in many circumstances.
I don’t use these terms interchangeably, and, to your point, I would have a problem with someone identifying me only as a POC, but it’s also not “useless.”
Anonymous
10/09/2023 19:16
Subject: S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone who isn't white.
No. Anyone who doesn’t look white. That’s my definition
I look white but consider myself POC. It’s more than just skin color.
Well that’s a point of contention.
Anonymous
10/09/2023 19:09
Subject: S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are Italians POC?
Or Japanese?
Not any more. Yes.
I’m older, and as an Italian-American, I remember being a kid and feeling othered, and I have even been known to comment on “white people food” . But that’s pretty much gone now. True WASP dominance is gone in terms of snobbery, and it’s evolved into lower-class white racial BS.
Woah, how old are you? My grandparents are dead, but would be in their late 90s if they were still alive, and I never heard them refer to Italian Americans as "othered"--and yeah, if they really felt that way I would have known. They grew up as Irish-Americans in Boston.
Well, Love Story is from the 1970s. The term *w0p” pretty much disappeared only in the last 30 years. And think about who wasn’t allowed in the country club. Did we have it as bad as the Blacks? No, of course not. But this is not from the turn of the 20th century, either.
Anonymous
10/09/2023 18:55
Subject: Re:S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:POC : anyone not white
Black/AA: anyone who has ancestors who were slaves
African: anybody who came to America on their own accord but were born in Africa.
Asian: anybody from the continent Asia.
Asian American: anyone who can track their heritage back to Asia but are American but to their face just say American or “she’s from California “
Italian: ancestors are from Italy
Italian Italian: born in Italy
Irish: ancestors are from Italy
Irish Irish: born in Ireland
Hispanic: anybody from a country that speaks Spanish and Brazil but NOT from Spain
Peruvian/Argentinian/Cuban/Dominican: anyone who’s family is from there they could be born here.
No, Hispanic is any country that speaks Spanish and does include Spain, but not Brazil. Latino encompasses all countries in Latin America, including non-Spanish speaking, but does not include Spain.
Anonymous
10/09/2023 18:47
Subject: Re:S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
I find the POC term very disrespectful to Black people in the US. Yes, there is a history of discrimination in the US against groups such as Italians, Latinos, Asians, and Arabs. But the crimes against Black people have been a thousand times worse. I join the chorus of those who say that POC is a useless acronym.
Anonymous
10/09/2023 18:46
Subject: S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:It can be a term of convenience.
A Latino or middle eastern person likely thinks of themselves as white as compared to black people or those with whom they’d like to distinguish themselves…including their own people with darker skin or a different caste, etc.
But they’ll check a box and proudly tout the diversity they’ll bring as a POC if it benefits them (scholarship, job interview, etc.).
+million!
Anonymous
10/09/2023 18:36
Subject: S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
It can be a term of convenience.
A Latino or middle eastern person likely thinks of themselves as white as compared to black people or those with whom they’d like to distinguish themselves…including their own people with darker skin or a different caste, etc.
But they’ll check a box and proudly tout the diversity they’ll bring as a POC if it benefits them (scholarship, job interview, etc.).
A Latino or middle eastern person likely thinks of themselves as white as compared to black people or those with whom they’d like to distinguish themselves…including their own people with darker skin or a different caste, etc.
But they’ll check a box and proudly tout the diversity they’ll bring as a POC if it benefits them (scholarship, job interview, etc.).
Anonymous
10/09/2023 18:14
Subject: S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?
Anonymous wrote:To me it means I am about to be guilt tripped for being white
You don't need to feel guilt as you only inherited it and weren't a part of injustice. Just acknowledge the privilege and support equality for all. Just because you didn't live it, doesn't mean you can't empathize or help.