Anonymous
10/22/2023 16:58
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?
Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.
It’s a work stand down.
They SHOULD stand down. They have ZERO incentive to prevent crime. Only respond to it.
You voted for the people who made this happen. Suffer what you’ve wrought.
So they are collecting a paycheck from the taxpayers for not doing their jobs? How is that right? It's fraud.
Look, they were hired to do a job, that being to respond AND prevent crime. And it's gross unprofessionalism and in fact malpractice to complain about whatever perceptions and use it as an excuse to not do your job.
Cops with that attitude should just resign, to let the city hire officers who ARE willing to do the job.
And if their ability to do their jobs IS genuinely being hindered, they need to talk about SPECIFICS, with SPECIFIC PROPOSALS ON HOW TO SOLVE THEM, not just vaguely gesturing around blaming everything and asking for complete impunity with zero oversight or accountability. That also doesn't work.
All the people who are involved in policy development and implementation that is supposed to keep people from turning to crime need to be held accountable before these supposed off the dime cops. Those people have been collecting paychecks from taxpayers without performing for decades.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 10:30
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
^ and before you give me snark about not voting for Allen and not having a choice, like "yeah well why don't YOU run" - it's because I'm a federal employee and the Hatch Act prohibits me from running for partisan office.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 10:25
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?
Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.
It’s a work stand down.
They SHOULD stand down. They have ZERO incentive to prevent crime. Only respond to it.
You voted for the people who made this happen. Suffer what you’ve wrought.
In that case they should probably quit? I completely understand what you are saying, but if enough quit then Allen-types will have to suit up for safety patrols themselves. For the record, we didn't all vote for this. DCs elections process is pretty bad and a lot of us end up with folks we would never vote for in a million years. There is call for change, and it is frustrating.
+100. I'm in Ward 6. I didn't vote for Allen. I really didn't have much choice in us ending up with Allen, nobody ran against him.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 10:23
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?
Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.
It’s a work stand down.
They SHOULD stand down. They have ZERO incentive to prevent crime. Only respond to it.
You voted for the people who made this happen. Suffer what you’ve wrought.
So they are collecting a paycheck from the taxpayers for not doing their jobs? How is that right? It's fraud.
Look, they were hired to do a job, that being to respond AND prevent crime. And it's gross unprofessionalism and in fact malpractice to complain about whatever perceptions and use it as an excuse to not do your job.
Cops with that attitude should just resign, to let the city hire officers who ARE willing to do the job.
And if their ability to do their jobs IS genuinely being hindered, they need to talk about SPECIFICS, with SPECIFIC PROPOSALS ON HOW TO SOLVE THEM, not just vaguely gesturing around blaming everything and asking for complete impunity with zero oversight or accountability. That also doesn't work.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 03:28
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?
Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.
It’s a work stand down.
They SHOULD stand down. They have ZERO incentive to prevent crime. Only respond to it.
You voted for the people who made this happen. Suffer what you’ve wrought.
In that case they should probably quit? I completely understand what you are saying, but if enough quit then Allen-types will have to suit up for safety patrols themselves. For the record, we didn't all vote for this. DCs elections process is pretty bad and a lot of us end up with folks we would never vote for in a million years. There is call for change, and it is frustrating.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 13:19
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?
Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.
It’s a work stand down.
They SHOULD stand down. They have ZERO incentive to prevent crime. Only respond to it.
You voted for the people who made this happen. Suffer what you’ve wrought.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 10:47
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Anonymous wrote:Have any arrests been made in the incident that is the reason for the thread?
Doubt it.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 09:14
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?
They are, but there are far, far fewer of them (by design) and when they do, the cases aren’t prosecuted, and they have been told in no uncertain terms that there is no political support for enforcement of anything unless it is the most egregious criminal activity.*
*unless it is committed in a vehicle. In that case, don’t chase.
There is nothing stopping the police union from shining a light on where the breakage is. If they want to show the community that they are doing their job but are being failed by prosecutors, then they should build a live dashboard that tracks all the data, things like:
call or incident -> response -> arrest/otherwise cleared case -> detention vs release -> what they should be charged with -> what was actually prosecuted / plea deals made -> availability of evidence and testimony -> ruling -> sentencing -> term actually being served
That will tell us if the prosecutors aren't prosecuting, if they are dropping charges, if courts are going weak on crime et cetera.
If the police doesn't want to take the blame for it then this is what they should do. Shine a light on the weak prosecution or whatever other issues are happening.
It was documented in the Washington Post that the USAO was no papering 67% of arrests including the majority of gun cases and felonies. This has been known by Bowser and the Council since 2018. Were you unaware of this? Suggest you follow @dccrimefacts
Insane that they kicked and screamed over legal gun ownership, but don't do their utmost to change this ^
Anonymous
10/21/2023 00:51
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Have any arrests been made in the incident that is the reason for the thread?
Anonymous
10/21/2023 00:50
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?
They are, but there are far, far fewer of them (by design) and when they do, the cases aren’t prosecuted, and they have been told in no uncertain terms that there is no political support for enforcement of anything unless it is the most egregious criminal activity.*
*unless it is committed in a vehicle. In that case, don’t chase.
There is nothing stopping the police union from shining a light on where the breakage is. If they want to show the community that they are doing their job but are being failed by prosecutors, then they should build a live dashboard that tracks all the data, things like:
call or incident -> response -> arrest/otherwise cleared case -> detention vs release -> what they should be charged with -> what was actually prosecuted / plea deals made -> availability of evidence and testimony -> ruling -> sentencing -> term actually being served
That will tell us if the prosecutors aren't prosecuting, if they are dropping charges, if courts are going weak on crime et cetera.
If the police doesn't want to take the blame for it then this is what they should do. Shine a light on the weak prosecution or whatever other issues are happening.
It was documented in the Washington Post that the USAO was no papering 67% of arrests including the majority of gun cases and felonies. This has been known by Bowser and the Council since 2018. Were you unaware of this? Suggest you follow @dccrimefacts
Anonymous
10/20/2023 14:46
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.
Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?
Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?
Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.
This is a made up boogeyman. If anything, cops are ridiculously more protected than any other job when it comes to negligence and outright criminal activity, much less "justified use of force." I can show you a dozen examples of cops who abused their power or outright murdered people and were given a slap on the wrist or at worst fired and quietly rehired a few towns over. I dare you to show me a single example of a cop who made a use of force that was proven justifiable in court and lost their job and pension anyway. One. Single. Example.
A cop was convicted of muder because a fleeing suspect was a terrible driver. Once a DC jury decided on that they were essentially telling cops to retreat to the donut and let criminals run the city, and that's what happened.
Anonymous
10/20/2023 13:37
Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.
Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?
Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?
Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.
This is a made up boogeyman. If anything, cops are ridiculously more protected than any other job when it comes to negligence and outright criminal activity, much less "justified use of force." I can show you a dozen examples of cops who abused their power or outright murdered people and were given a slap on the wrist or at worst fired and quietly rehired a few towns over. I dare you to show me a single example of a cop who made a use of force that was proven justifiable in court and lost their job and pension anyway. One. Single. Example.