Anonymous
10/07/2023 13:08
Subject: Re:UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:My DD got into most of UC but choose UMich. As OOS student, College of Engineering is the only place that worth the OOS tuition. The upper level class are small. We would not pay OOS for LSA.
I would say Ross is also worth the $$$ for OOS admission.
Anonymous
10/07/2023 13:02
Subject: Re:UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
My DD got into most of UC but choose UMich. As OOS student, College of Engineering is the only place that worth the OOS tuition. The upper level class are small. We would not pay OOS for LSA.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 20:38
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
wrong in every respectAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.
Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.
Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.
Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.
I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.
Pfft! I'm from L.A. and of course we all knew of UVA. It was then no 2 or 3 on USNWR for best public university. Californians are having a hard time getting into the U.C. and some Cal State schools. The next less expensive option are OOS publics, which meant UVA. Michigan is considered too cold. I didn't want to go to UCLA or Berkeley because of their size. SLACs are too expensive. .That leaves the OOS publics. https://news.virginia.edu/content/class-2020-random-connection-brought-californian-uva
UVA OOS COA is $80k. Not much of savings from SLACs with likely less aid.
https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2023-2024
I didn’t want to go to UCB or UCLA and desired to pay twice as much to attend UVA. Says nobody ever, except those who had no chance at either CA school.
That point was made above. Increasingly Californians can't get into their own top schools (which is why the Regents started scaling back OOS to 10% - more was making the taxpayers angry). The next logical choice if you are financially smart would be the OOS schools. Michigan is too large for some (like me) and cold. UVA is the next public ranked so it makes perfect sense. What else are you going to do? SLACs? Mine in So Cal is $90K a year now and not worth it. UVA OOS makes more sense plus if you offer something it wants you might get merit if you don't qualify for financial aid.
The only other option for californians who can't get into top UCs is to community college transfer as my cousins did. Cal States too, I suppose, but even some of them are getting difficult to get into and most students stay the four years. A better student usually will want the UC schools.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 20:06
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Uh, who cares? It's a perfectly fine school. And that is all that matters.
Lol at people looking at the resume of a Michigan grad 10 years out and thinking that the brand is diluted and REJECTED! Next, please.
10 years from now? People should be thinking that now.
Nah. That’s already reserved for UVA grads who are sinking below other top publics.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 19:43
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:Uh, who cares? It's a perfectly fine school. And that is all that matters.
Lol at people looking at the resume of a Michigan grad 10 years out and thinking that the brand is diluted and REJECTED! Next, please.
10 years from now? People should be thinking that now.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 19:29
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.
Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.
Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.
Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.
I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.
Pfft! I'm from L.A. and of course we all knew of UVA. It was then no 2 or 3 on USNWR for best public university. Californians are having a hard time getting into the U.C. and some Cal State schools. The next less expensive option are OOS publics, which meant UVA. Michigan is considered too cold. I didn't want to go to UCLA or Berkeley because of their size. SLACs are too expensive. .That leaves the OOS publics. https://news.virginia.edu/content/class-2020-random-connection-brought-californian-uva
UVA OOS COA is $80k. Not much of savings from SLACs with likely less aid.
https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2023-2024
I didn’t want to go to UCB or UCLA and desired to pay twice as much to attend UVA. Says nobody ever, except those who had no chance at either CA school.
That point was made above. Increasingly Californians can't get into their own top schools (which is why the Regents started scaling back OOS to 10% - more was making the taxpayers angry). The next logical choice if you are financially smart would be the OOS schools. Michigan is too large for some (like me) and cold. UVA is the next public ranked so it makes perfect sense. What else are you going to do? SLACs? Mine in So Cal is $90K a year now and not worth it. UVA OOS makes more sense plus if you offer something it wants you might get merit if you don't qualify for financial aid.
The only other option for californians who can't get into top UCs is to community college transfer as my cousins did. Cal States too, I suppose, but even some of them are getting difficult to get into and most students stay the four years. A better student usually will want the UC schools.
Correction: UNC is the next public ranked, since UVA has slipped to #5, and even a bit warmer. Makes more sense to attend if you ask me. Of course it’s even a harder OOS admit, so settling for UVA is about the best you could have achieved. If you wanted to go the public route.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 18:53
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.
Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.
Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.
Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.
I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.
Pfft! I'm from L.A. and of course we all knew of UVA. It was then no 2 or 3 on USNWR for best public university. Californians are having a hard time getting into the U.C. and some Cal State schools. The next less expensive option are OOS publics, which meant UVA. Michigan is considered too cold. I didn't want to go to UCLA or Berkeley because of their size. SLACs are too expensive. .That leaves the OOS publics. https://news.virginia.edu/content/class-2020-random-connection-brought-californian-uva
UVA OOS COA is $80k. Not much of savings from SLACs with likely less aid.
https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2023-2024
I didn’t want to go to UCB or UCLA and desired to pay twice as much to attend UVA. Says nobody ever, except those who had no chance at either CA school.
That point was made above. Increasingly Californians can't get into their own top schools (which is why the Regents started scaling back OOS to 10% - more was making the taxpayers angry). The next logical choice if you are financially smart would be the OOS schools. Michigan is too large for some (like me) and cold. UVA is the next public ranked so it makes perfect sense. What else are you going to do? SLACs? Mine in So Cal is $90K a year now and not worth it. UVA OOS makes more sense plus if you offer something it wants you might get merit if you don't qualify for financial aid.
The only other option for californians who can't get into top UCs is to community college transfer as my cousins did. Cal States too, I suppose, but even some of them are getting difficult to get into and most students stay the four years. A better student usually will want the UC schools.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 16:44
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:UMich & UVA should settle this pi$$ing contest once & for all. I suggest they play a football game.
Go Blue!
Anonymous
10/06/2023 13:53
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.
Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.
Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.
Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.
I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.
+1 UVA isn't thought of as a peer of Berkeley or UCLA in California.
Michigan is the next big state school and UVA would be below that. Plenty of Californians end up at UVA but it would be like going to Texas or UNC (very good but not the best).
A little better than Maryland, though where I was in the Bay Area, people were well aware that Google's founders went to Maryland and Michigan and that both of them now have good CS.
Yippee! (says the parent of a FCPS HS class of '23 CS major at UMD who's kid was WL at UVA...GO TERPS!!)
Anonymous
10/06/2023 13:16
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.
Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.
Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.
Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.
I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.
+1 UVA isn't thought of as a peer of Berkeley or UCLA in California.
Michigan is the next big state school and UVA would be below that. Plenty of Californians end up at UVA but it would be like going to Texas or UNC (very good but not the best).
A little better than Maryland, though where I was in the Bay Area, people were well aware that Google's founders went to Maryland and Michigan and that both of them now have good CS.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 13:12
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:This. Although Michigan is in the same range. OOS at either of those schools is going to be pretty much the most expensive option for most kids.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.
Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.
Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.
Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.
I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.
Pfft! I'm from L.A. and of course we all knew of UVA. It was then no 2 or 3 on USNWR for best public university. Californians are having a hard time getting into the U.C. and some Cal State schools. The next less expensive option are OOS publics, which meant UVA. Michigan is considered too cold. I didn't want to go to UCLA or Berkeley because of their size. SLACs are too expensive. .That leaves the OOS publics. https://news.virginia.edu/content/class-2020-random-connection-brought-californian-uva
UVA OOS COA is $80k. Not much of savings from SLACs with likely less aid.
https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2023-2024
That’s correct. It’s really amazing that Michigan has over 15,000 OOS/international undergraduates attending, most of them full pay.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 13:10
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.
Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.
Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.
Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.
I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.
Pfft! I'm from L.A. and of course we all knew of UVA. It was then no 2 or 3 on USNWR for best public university. Californians are having a hard time getting into the U.C. and some Cal State schools. The next less expensive option are OOS publics, which meant UVA. Michigan is considered too cold. I didn't want to go to UCLA or Berkeley because of their size. SLACs are too expensive. .That leaves the OOS publics. https://news.virginia.edu/content/class-2020-random-connection-brought-californian-uva
Well if you didn’t want to go to your instate options because they were too large, you wouldn’t have wanted to go to Michigan anyway no matter the weather. Most OOS public flagships worth a darn are larger than UVA, so that just about left you with one choice.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 13:10
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
This. Although Michigan is in the same range. OOS at either of those schools is going to be pretty much the most expensive option for most kids.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.
Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.
Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.
Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.
I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.
Pfft! I'm from L.A. and of course we all knew of UVA. It was then no 2 or 3 on USNWR for best public university. Californians are having a hard time getting into the U.C. and some Cal State schools. The next less expensive option are OOS publics, which meant UVA. Michigan is considered too cold. I didn't want to go to UCLA or Berkeley because of their size. SLACs are too expensive. .That leaves the OOS publics. https://news.virginia.edu/content/class-2020-random-connection-brought-californian-uva
UVA OOS COA is $80k. Not much of savings from SLACs with likely less aid.
https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2023-2024
Anonymous
10/06/2023 13:06
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.
Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.
Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.
Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.
I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.
Pfft! I'm from L.A. and of course we all knew of UVA. It was then no 2 or 3 on USNWR for best public university. Californians are having a hard time getting into the U.C. and some Cal State schools. The next less expensive option are OOS publics, which meant UVA. Michigan is considered too cold. I didn't want to go to UCLA or Berkeley because of their size. SLACs are too expensive. .That leaves the OOS publics. https://news.virginia.edu/content/class-2020-random-connection-brought-californian-uva
UVA OOS COA is $80k. Not much of savings from SLACs with likely less aid.
https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2023-2024
I didn’t want to go to UCB or UCLA and desired to pay twice as much to attend UVA. Says nobody ever, except those who had no chance at either CA school.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 12:58
Subject: UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can’t we all just get along? Both UVA and UMich are amazing public institutions with a lot to offer and I’d love for any of my children to attend either one!
Signed, A Michigan alum
I agree, but only to a certain extent. Too many UVA boosters here are under a false impression that UVA is better than Michigan as an overall academic institution. It simply isn’t.
UVA grads are so delusional they pretend (even though they know it is untrue) UVA is better than ANY publics and act like they graduated from Harvard or Yale. Sickening behavior.
You really need to chill out and care less about how other people act. If someone's a snob, so what?