Anonymous
09/28/2023 15:10
Subject: Re:Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. It's perfectly acceptable. They do not have to leave and they have legitimate reasons to be there. They aren't interfering with anything. You ATA.
OP here: I get they have a lease and can stay but it’s just odd to me and annoying and even my agent said she’d never once had a tenant stay during an inspection. I’m just worried about a toddler getting in the way during it.
We stayed for the inspection when we were in her shoes. We work from home and we had already been inconvenienced enough by the lying realtors and owners. We were still paying the full price of $5,000 a month to live there so we were done being inconvenienced.
Same here. Also, our landlord had told buyer we were moving out, but told us that buyers would be our landlords. We had a 2 year lease and no plans to move, and were annoyed with endless showings to people who clearly intended to move in.
OP, it's her home. Would you let strangers rattle around your home unsupervised? Let alone take PTO for it?
It has nothing to do with them being tenants-99.999% of the time, the sellers leave for the inspection.
Right? People are so disrespectful to tenants.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 11:29
Subject: Re:Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is there anything the new owner can do if the tenant stays? I'm pretty sure they are legally entitled to go month to month on the lease even if it ends.
Yup they can stay month to month if they want!
The tenant’s options depend on the jurisdiction and the lease.
But if OP’s sales contract requires seller to deliver unoccupied house, OP would not have to close and could sue the seller for breach of contract.
Yes, but it doesn't have to be unoccupied a week before OP signs the contract. It can be "occupied" literally up to the very minute OP signs.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 10:51
Subject: Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Anonymous wrote:OP are you saying you want the tenant out 7 days before you close? You...can't do that! Or did you mean the 8th of January, which is nice of you.
About the inspection: have some empathy and perspective. This is a person who probably didn't want to move, and now has to pay to move during the holidays. The least you can do as a person who plays a part on that is let a working parent continue to do their paid job while you do your little inspection. Also, the toddler is not going to get in your way. And if they do, you were in their way first, so...sigh.
She is not in charge of when the tenant moves out. The landlord/owner is.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 10:39
Subject: Re:Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. It's perfectly acceptable. They do not have to leave and they have legitimate reasons to be there. They aren't interfering with anything. You ATA.
OP here: I get they have a lease and can stay but it’s just odd to me and annoying and even my agent said she’d never once had a tenant stay during an inspection. I’m just worried about a toddler getting in the way during it.
We stayed for the inspection when we were in her shoes. We work from home and we had already been inconvenienced enough by the lying realtors and owners. We were still paying the full price of $5,000 a month to live there so we were done being inconvenienced.
Same here. Also, our landlord had told buyer we were moving out, but told us that buyers would be our landlords. We had a 2 year lease and no plans to move, and were annoyed with endless showings to people who clearly intended to move in.
OP, it's her home. Would you let strangers rattle around your home unsupervised? Let alone take PTO for it?
Right? People are so disrespectful to tenants.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 09:42
Subject: Tenant won’t leave for inspection
I would absolutely be friendly and use this time to ascertain the tenant's plans (confirm really moving out) & to ask questions about the property's condition. I literally cannot imagine why you think it would be a negative to have the uninterested occupant around during an inspection.
I also think expecting a tenant to be out of the house in the middle of a workday is unreasonable. You being in the house when she is working & has a toddler is a major inconvenience for her. She likely gave you the times when you'd be least intrusive. That doesn't mean she wouldn't be there! If you want her to leave, you offer her cash. But, again, I think her presence is a positive not a negative overall.
I also think expecting a tenant to be out of the house in the middle of a workday is unreasonable. You being in the house when she is working & has a toddler is a major inconvenience for her. She likely gave you the times when you'd be least intrusive. That doesn't mean she wouldn't be there! If you want her to leave, you offer her cash. But, again, I think her presence is a positive not a negative overall.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 09:38
Subject: Re:Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is there anything the new owner can do if the tenant stays? I'm pretty sure they are legally entitled to go month to month on the lease even if it ends.
Yup they can stay month to month if they want!
The tenant’s options depend on the jurisdiction and the lease.
But if OP’s sales contract requires seller to deliver unoccupied house, OP would not have to close and could sue the seller for breach of contract.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 09:17
Subject: Re:Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Anonymous wrote:Is there anything the new owner can do if the tenant stays? I'm pretty sure they are legally entitled to go month to month on the lease even if it ends.
Yup they can stay month to month if they want!
Anonymous
09/28/2023 08:23
Subject: Tenant won’t leave for inspection
OP- when I had my house inspection for my current house, the owner was here for part of the time. It was not awkward. Instead, it was very helpful because he was able to answer questions we had along the way. If you approach it from a good point of you, and with a good attitude, it might work out in your favor.
If you’re concerned about the toddler, really just ignore him. I’m sure the mom doesn’t want the toddler in your way or hanging out alone with a couple of strangers.
If you’re concerned about the toddler, really just ignore him. I’m sure the mom doesn’t want the toddler in your way or hanging out alone with a couple of strangers.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 08:18
Subject: Re:Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here: wow on these responses. Apparently I’m an AH but I still feel I have a right to be somewhat annoyed by it but nothing I can do. We respected the times we were given by them to not inconvenience them.
Regarding an above comment..their lease is up 12/1 and we said we’d be fine with them staying until the 8th as we close the 15th. Not sure the issue with that.
You do you, but in way would I said I would be fine with them staying until the 8th.
Agree with other that say delay closing until they are out.
It's not the buyer's call. Whoever owns the house (which, until AT LEAST the 15th is the current seller/landlord) can let anyone he wants live there.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 08:10
Subject: Re:Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Anonymous wrote:OP here: wow on these responses. Apparently I’m an AH but I still feel I have a right to be somewhat annoyed by it but nothing I can do. We respected the times we were given by them to not inconvenience them.
Regarding an above comment..their lease is up 12/1 and we said we’d be fine with them staying until the 8th as we close the 15th. Not sure the issue with that.
It's not up to you how long they stay. You won't own the house until you close on the 15th. If the current landlord wants to allow them to stay until the 14th, that's his say so-not yours.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 08:07
Subject: Re:Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Is there anything the new owner can do if the tenant stays? I'm pretty sure they are legally entitled to go month to month on the lease even if it ends.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 06:43
Subject: Tenant won’t leave for inspection
I think buying a home with a tenant is tricky. She shouldn’t have to leave for inspection.
Anonymous
09/28/2023 05:27
Subject: Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Anonymous wrote:What is ATA?
"Are The A55hole".
It's from the reddit sub r/AmITheA55hole, where posts usually end with AITA?
Anonymous
09/28/2023 01:03
Subject: Re:Tenant won’t leave for inspection
Anonymous wrote:OP here: wow on these responses. Apparently I’m an AH but I still feel I have a right to be somewhat annoyed by it but nothing I can do. We respected the times we were given by them to not inconvenience them.
Regarding an above comment..their lease is up 12/1 and we said we’d be fine with them staying until the 8th as we close the 15th. Not sure the issue with that.
Again, what state is the house in?
Anonymous
09/28/2023 00:49
Subject: Tenant won’t leave for inspection
OP what do you think an inspection is? It's just a dude walking around the house. You don't need the National Guard to stage an evacuation.