Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 10:14     Subject: Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m sure you all are going bankrupt because of the tip on your takeout and dinners out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk


I tip for those.
What bothers me are the bakeries that put something in a bag and hand it to me, or the coffee place that pours a cup of coffee and hands it over. I’m DCUM poor and those things were a rare treat for me anyway, and I hate how I am expected to now pay $2 more as a tip. Just raise prices if you can’t pay your employees. I can’t stand tipping culture in the US (and, on a tangent, I can’t stand that tax isn’t already included in prices).


We have tipping culture in the US because we don’t have proper minimum wage, universal healthcare, or really any safety net.

Sure the person in the bakery has it easier than a waitress, but neither is likely getting healthcare. I’m DCUM poor but definitely rich enough that my 401k varies more in a week than I will likely ever give out in tips in a year. I don’t freak out about my 401k down 1%.


Yeah people always say that but I don't even think that's true. If, somehow, we get all that tomorrow, do you think people will stop asking for tips? I doubt that. Greed knows no end.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 10:08     Subject: Re:Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
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Anonymous wrote:I get confused about base salaries. From working as a waitress, I remember how pathetic the base salary was. If someone’s providing counter service (like PP’s bakery example), I don’t know if they’re paid minimum or a lower salary based on tipping expectations. As a result, I usually add a tip, because I don’t want to stiff anyone relying on it. I wish there was some clear indicator about the pay structure.


As was expressed in multiple threads before, if the tips do not add up to make minimum wage, the owner is supposed to compensate the wait/counter staff. By tipping every tom, dick and harry you are allowing the owners to pay their staff less than minimum wage and get to keep more profits


This. If there was a way to pin this post, we should. IF YOU DON'T TIP, THE OWNER HAS TO PAY THE WORKER AT LEAST MINIMUM WAGE.


Did you read the waitress above?! They pay their wage and then fire them, because tipping is considered a measure of performance.

That may even apply to jobs now that pay minimum wage.


Come on. Nobody is firing wait staff right now. That is one of the reasons service is so bad. You don't have to be good to keep those jobs anymore.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 10:00     Subject: Re:Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
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Anonymous wrote:That's one thing, but there is no a charity donation screen at every big chain essential store like groceries, pet stores and clothing stores. Even Best Buy. Each is now paired up with some sort of related charity organization. Before you pay you are presented with a screen prompting you to donate any of the suggested amounts like a dollar, 2, 5, 10, or custom. There is always this dollar button which probably makes it a low hanging fruit to collect this extra little "tax". The value of donation buttons are generic and do not depend on how much you are spending, so they are more effective probably than percentage buttons presented at food service places. If you are spending 100 bucks you probably don't mind donating a dollar, seems so easy and makes you feel good like you are helping a cause.

What do you think? This could be a mighty sum if people automatically donate, I wonder if this is legit or a scam. I am guilty always donating a buck at pet food stores as I want to help shelter animals and it makes it easy without commitment. But when I go to other stores, I am just tired being presented with a donation screen every time I try to pay for basic items.


I assume the company donates this and gets a tax write off. Which you as the actual donor don’t get. No thanks.


+1 The companies do it so they can get the tax credit. Plus most of the money goes to "management fees." Pick your charities very carefully and donate to them directly to get your own tax credit. Most "charities" run by celebrities are really tax shelters for them and not a lot of your hard-earned dollars actually makes it to the needy. It's really sick.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 08:49     Subject: Re:Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least you had a choice. A Pho restaurant in California does not give a choice. An 18% tip is automatic for party of ONE or more.




I would love this. Just make it automatic. No different than raising the prices.


No. They should raise their prices and see if people want to buy their $19.47 pho. Don't sneak the higher price in at the end. It's the lack of honesty or opportunity for people to make a decision about spending their own money that bothers people.



Do you factor in tax when buying food — like in California it’s 10% but VA is 4%?


Not at all the same. You know about tax in advance. The 18% forced gratuity on take out is sneaked in after you have no choice.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 08:47     Subject: Re:Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least you had a choice. A Pho restaurant in California does not give a choice. An 18% tip is automatic for party of ONE or more.




I would love this. Just make it automatic. No different than raising the prices.


No. They should raise their prices and see if people want to buy their $19.47 pho. Don't sneak the higher price in at the end. It's the lack of honesty or opportunity for people to make a decision about spending their own money that bothers people.


It’s implied that you will tip at a restaurant. You’re a horrible person if you don’t. I don’t understand why they can’t just bake the extra 18% into prices to begin with and then just say no tipping.


Wait - are we talking about sitting down at a table or picking up take out? I tip 20% if I'm sitting down with a server, more if the service is really good. I don't tip on take out.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 08:19     Subject: Re:Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
Anonymous wrote:That's one thing, but there is no a charity donation screen at every big chain essential store like groceries, pet stores and clothing stores. Even Best Buy. Each is now paired up with some sort of related charity organization. Before you pay you are presented with a screen prompting you to donate any of the suggested amounts like a dollar, 2, 5, 10, or custom. There is always this dollar button which probably makes it a low hanging fruit to collect this extra little "tax". The value of donation buttons are generic and do not depend on how much you are spending, so they are more effective probably than percentage buttons presented at food service places. If you are spending 100 bucks you probably don't mind donating a dollar, seems so easy and makes you feel good like you are helping a cause.

What do you think? This could be a mighty sum if people automatically donate, I wonder if this is legit or a scam. I am guilty always donating a buck at pet food stores as I want to help shelter animals and it makes it easy without commitment. But when I go to other stores, I am just tired being presented with a donation screen every time I try to pay for basic items.


I assume the company donates this and gets a tax write off. Which you as the actual donor don’t get. No thanks.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 08:13     Subject: Re:Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
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Anonymous wrote:Yep. I don’t tip on takeout. Tip creep is real. I’m also not tipping on a 6 dollar latte at Starbucks.

We tip generously at restaurants. We tip people throughout the resort on vacation who lug our bags and strollers in and out of the car and to the rooms. I tip the hairstylists.

Tipping at my kids preschools has also gotten out of control at holidays, teacher appreciation week and end of year- PLUS we have a dedicated line item for it on tuition and then are ancouraged to give more. Just charge me an all inclusive number and be done with it. I don’t have time for the mental gymantics and I’d rather just know upfront what I can and can’t afford.


Tipping is out of control but preschool workers make very little. If you can go to a hotel that has baggage people you can afford a gift for those who care for your kids at minimum wage.


I hate the “if you can afford X you can afford Y” argument! That is not how spending money works. But also, I think what the PP is saying is that she’s happy to pay more to the preschool worker but just bake that into the bill!


PP here- that’s exactly what I’m saying. You tell me what’s appropriate and charge me upfront for it with tuition. One of my children’s preschools does do that, but they’ve also recently started sending out emails that we can give more if we want. It’s just never ending. I appreciate my children’s teachers. But I don’t want to be in charge of paying or tipping them directly, which is what things have come to with expensive gift cards 3x a year for various things (multiplied by multiple kids.)


You choose multiple kids.


And the teachers chose a certain profession.


Yes, and if they decide it’s not worth their time, you’ll be scrambling for care.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 07:56     Subject: Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
Anonymous wrote:For a very long time, I would always tip when that screen popped up. Now I’ve basically stopped going to all of those places.


Just say no, like it’s 1985.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 07:46     Subject: Re:Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
I sure hope that all the people getting annoyed by the tip screens just say 'no tip'.
It's silly to be embarrassed or feel pressure and those tipping for counter service are just making the problem worse.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 07:41     Subject: Re:Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least you had a choice. A Pho restaurant in California does not give a choice. An 18% tip is automatic for party of ONE or more.




I would love this. Just make it automatic. No different than raising the prices.


No. They should raise their prices and see if people want to buy their $19.47 pho. Don't sneak the higher price in at the end. It's the lack of honesty or opportunity for people to make a decision about spending their own money that bothers people.


It’s implied that you will tip at a restaurant. You’re a horrible person if you don’t. I don’t understand why they can’t just bake the extra 18% into prices to begin with and then just say no tipping.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 07:27     Subject: Re:Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least you had a choice. A Pho restaurant in California does not give a choice. An 18% tip is automatic for party of ONE or more.




I would love this. Just make it automatic. No different than raising the prices.


No. They should raise their prices and see if people want to buy their $19.47 pho. Don't sneak the higher price in at the end. It's the lack of honesty or opportunity for people to make a decision about spending their own money that bothers people.



Do you factor in tax when buying food — like in California it’s 10% but VA is 4%?
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 07:06     Subject: Re:Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least you had a choice. A Pho restaurant in California does not give a choice. An 18% tip is automatic for party of ONE or more.




I would love this. Just make it automatic. No different than raising the prices.


No. They should raise their prices and see if people want to buy their $19.47 pho. Don't sneak the higher price in at the end. It's the lack of honesty or opportunity for people to make a decision about spending their own money that bothers people.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 06:48     Subject: Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m sure you all are going bankrupt because of the tip on your takeout and dinners out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk


I tip for those.
What bothers me are the bakeries that put something in a bag and hand it to me, or the coffee place that pours a cup of coffee and hands it over. I’m DCUM poor and those things were a rare treat for me anyway, and I hate how I am expected to now pay $2 more as a tip. Just raise prices if you can’t pay your employees. I can’t stand tipping culture in the US (and, on a tangent, I can’t stand that tax isn’t already included in prices).


We have tipping culture in the US because we don’t have proper minimum wage, universal healthcare, or really any safety net.

Sure the person in the bakery has it easier than a waitress, but neither is likely getting healthcare. I’m DCUM poor but definitely rich enough that my 401k varies more in a week than I will likely ever give out in tips in a year. I don’t freak out about my 401k down 1%.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 06:38     Subject: Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
Anonymous wrote:I’m sure you all are going bankrupt because of the tip on your takeout and dinners out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk


I tip for those.
What bothers me are the bakeries that put something in a bag and hand it to me, or the coffee place that pours a cup of coffee and hands it over. I’m DCUM poor and those things were a rare treat for me anyway, and I hate how I am expected to now pay $2 more as a tip. Just raise prices if you can’t pay your employees. I can’t stand tipping culture in the US (and, on a tangent, I can’t stand that tax isn’t already included in prices).
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2023 06:17     Subject: Tipping has become crazy since the pandemic
I’m sure you all are going bankrupt because of the tip on your takeout and dinners out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk