Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 12:43     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is stupid

I was raised in a Catholic area on Long Island. everyone had like 12 kids no divorces omg

Well my single mother of four .( Dad was a complete shit.)Raised four great kids pulled us out of Catholic school because abuse was rampant in ours.

Three doctors and a computer scientist. All well adjusted. No one in a cult.

Yeah single mothers rock.


Sounds like your mom was a rock star. Yay for her! But surely you can see how that is not the average / typical experience for kids raised in single parent homes.


It's also not the typical experience for kids in 2 parents homes. In 2 parent homes there is more abuse, more arguing, more chance for divorce or staying together when they should divorce.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 12:42     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is stupid

I was raised in a Catholic area on Long Island. everyone had like 12 kids no divorces omg

Well my single mother of four .( Dad was a complete shit.)Raised four great kids pulled us out of Catholic school because abuse was rampant in ours.

Three doctors and a computer scientist. All well adjusted. No one in a cult.

Yeah single mothers rock.


Single mothers don't rock. You were an outlier.


or not, perhaps the OPINION piece is just confused between correlation and causation.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 12:41     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:The people who lament but what can we do are the same ones who make sure we can't do anything about it. God forbid we try to teach a kid that abstinence, monogamy and traditional marriage are the goal posts. I have a gay kid, so don't @ me. I love her and her spouse more than anything and believe they'll make wonderful parents one day. But they both grew up seeing traditional values that instilled the same beliefs - that promiscuity, and "be whatever you want to be" are not conducive to a family environment.


Agree. We don’t need to shame people, but there are good reasons for things like premarital sex, promiscuity, not sticking around after getting a girl pregnant, and easily giving up on a marriage to be taboo/culturally frowned upon. Yes, of course each family/person is different, there are exceptions, etc. But statistically speaking, certain behaviors led to better outcomes— on average— than others.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 12:37     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:This is stupid

I was raised in a Catholic area on Long Island. everyone had like 12 kids no divorces omg

Well my single mother of four .( Dad was a complete shit.)Raised four great kids pulled us out of Catholic school because abuse was rampant in ours.

Three doctors and a computer scientist. All well adjusted. No one in a cult.

Yeah single mothers rock.


Sounds like your mom was a rock star. Yay for her! But surely you can see how that is not the average / typical experience for kids raised in single parent homes.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 12:35     Subject: Re:NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m other surprising news, water is wet.


Seriously. Some studies are a waste of time and money.


It's not a study, it's an opinion piece.


The author is an academic from UMD with a book coming out on this topic


Of course she is coming out with a book. LOL, so. That does not mean it's backed with research.

Also, you give a bunch of privileges to people for being married then say being married is not as good. It's not the fact they are not married, it's the fact they don't get the privileges. You do realize it's the chicken egg scenario.


What privileges are you taking about?
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 12:27     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:But let's continue to act like abortion services is about evil slutty women... Our society makes no sense. Two parent households are better, but we're going to force you have this baby and become a single mother (leaving the father off the hook entirely as we continue to deride single mothers as the problem) and then we're going to shame you for it by conducting a study that says you've done parenthood all wrong, when you may not have wanted to do it at all.


In other words Americans are hypocritical schizophrenics who have no idea what they want, what they value, or how to better their lives. Which, in turn, makes them very susceptible to all sorts of con men/women.

News at 11.


Abortion has been readily available for quite some time. Yet there are so many single parents. They didn't choose abortion, so that's not the issue here. It's weird that someone is assuming they would have aborted their child rather than raise in a single parent household when they had the chance and didn't.


No, abortion has never been “readily available” in many places, even pre-Dobbs. Nor has birth control.


Medicaid covers birth control. It is free almost everywhere. Can’t get people to make the trip to the pharmacy for their FREE medications every 90 days. It isn’t about access. Source: worked for a Medicaid health plan. Frankly most Medicaid recipients have access to a broader formulary than the commercially insured.


Can you go to the pharmacy to get an IUD inserted? I must have missed that. Can a 16 year old girl in rural Mississippi snap her fingers for an OB-GYN appointment to get a pill prescription? Must have missed that too.

https://powertodecide.org/what-we-do/contraceptive-deserts


So are we supposed to build, staff and fund health centers and hospitals in places with no people just in case they might want/need care. There is a pill that is OTC. I'd be in favor of providing a subsidy to move these people from these places with no opportunity to places with opportunity. First month/last month rent, moving costs. One time instead of paying them to live where there is no way out.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 12:18     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
An absent parent is better than an abusive parent.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 12:13     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:This is stupid

I was raised in a Catholic area on Long Island. everyone had like 12 kids no divorces omg

Well my single mother of four .( Dad was a complete shit.)Raised four great kids pulled us out of Catholic school because abuse was rampant in ours.

Three doctors and a computer scientist. All well adjusted. No one in a cult.

Yeah single mothers rock.


Single mothers don't rock. You were an outlier.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 12:11     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:This seems like the most obvious conclusion ever


Is it though? I think a whole lot of people think being a single parent is to be celebrated and not avoided. Who needs a man anyway?
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 12:01     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The people who lament but what can we do are the same ones who make sure we can't do anything about it. God forbid we try to teach a kid that abstinence, monogamy and traditional marriage are the goal posts. I have a gay kid, so don't @ me. I love her and her spouse more than anything and believe they'll make wonderful parents one day. But they both grew up seeing traditional values that instilled the same beliefs - that promiscuity, and "be whatever you want to be" are not conducive to a family environment.


YOU may teach your child whatever you want. Nobody is stopping you.


Yes, as long as you do it very quietly. Don't let anyone else know the secret to success or you'll be accused of hate, prejudice and all the -phobias.


a) that’s not true unless you really mean something else and
b) even if it is true, nobody is stopping you

Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 11:57     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
This is stupid

I was raised in a Catholic area on Long Island. everyone had like 12 kids no divorces omg

Well my single mother of four .( Dad was a complete shit.)Raised four great kids pulled us out of Catholic school because abuse was rampant in ours.

Three doctors and a computer scientist. All well adjusted. No one in a cult.

Yeah single mothers rock.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 11:55     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:This seems like the most obvious conclusion ever


except it's kids in homes with men that are most abused. I mean sure, they might have more money but they are more likely to be beaten or raped
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 11:54     Subject: Re:NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m other surprising news, water is wet.


Seriously. Some studies are a waste of time and money.


It's not a study, it's an opinion piece.


The author is an academic from UMD with a book coming out on this topic


Of course she is coming out with a book. LOL, so. That does not mean it's backed with research.

Also, you give a bunch of privileges to people for being married then say being married is not as good. It's not the fact they are not married, it's the fact they don't get the privileges. You do realize it's the chicken egg scenario.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 11:52     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
when we demonize single moms and outlaw abortions, you end up with septic tanks full of newborns.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/25/a-stain-on-irelands-conscience-tuam-home-for-unmarried-mothers-gives-up-grimmest-of-buried-secrets
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 11:52     Subject: NYT Article on "Rise of Single-Parent Families is Not a Good Thing"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The people who lament but what can we do are the same ones who make sure we can't do anything about it. God forbid we try to teach a kid that abstinence, monogamy and traditional marriage are the goal posts. I have a gay kid, so don't @ me. I love her and her spouse more than anything and believe they'll make wonderful parents one day. But they both grew up seeing traditional values that instilled the same beliefs - that promiscuity, and "be whatever you want to be" are not conducive to a family environment.


YOU may teach your child whatever you want. Nobody is stopping you.


Yes, as long as you do it very quietly. Don't let anyone else know the secret to success or you'll be accused of hate, prejudice and all the -phobias.