Anonymous wrote:Is not that illegal now?

Expectation is that colleges will be engaging in variants on "massive resistance". Most of the bureaucratic class charged with enforcement will be on their side.

Is not that illegal now?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course it does. Va Tech is also off the table.

Unless BIPOC.

Tim Sands is still completely committed to his 40% BIPOC quota for VA Tech admissions. A few Bs won’t hurt a BIPOC applicant.

Asian or white? Forget about VA Tech.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course it does. Va Tech is also off the table.

Unless BIPOC.

Tim Sands is still completely committed to his 40% BIPOC quota for VA Tech admissions. A few Bs won’t hurt a BIPOC applicant.

Asian or white? Forget about VA Tech.

Complete B.S. Life is challenging enough. Why lie?

It is true. Google Tim Sands (pres of VT). He made this his pledge about six years and I believe has already achieved it -much to the angst of high scoring TJ and other top VA tech kids who didn’t get in. This is national story. Many wondered whether the only polytechnic public institution in the state should be doing this. A lot of Asian American kids who desperately needed tech at in-state rates didn’t even get a look. A lot of top in-state white stem kids had to go OOS (cheaper than private)

Yep. He announced it was his goal in 2017. It has been achieved.

https://news.vt.edu/articles/2022/09/admissions-fall-census-2022.html

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Anonymous wrote:Of course it does. Va Tech is also off the table.

Unless BIPOC.

Tim Sands is still completely committed to his 40% BIPOC quota for VA Tech admissions. A few Bs won’t hurt a BIPOC applicant.

Asian or white? Forget about VA Tech.

Complete B.S. Life is challenging enough. Why lie?

It is true. Google Tim Sands (pres of VT). He made this his pledge about six years and I believe has already achieved it -much to the angst of high scoring TJ and other top VA tech kids who didn’t get in. This is national story. Many wondered whether the only polytechnic public institution in the state should be doing this. A lot of Asian American kids who desperately needed tech at in-state rates didn’t even get a look. A lot of top in-state white stem kids had to go OOS (cheaper than private)

They know there are some old fashioned tough teachers out there. Class rigor means more to the admissions office.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t bet on it. My kid had a GPA of 4.53 after 1st semester of senior year from TJ with a couple of B’s in AP courses, and got rejected by UVA. Kids with lower grades got in. It’s a myth.

I just don’t get this. I hope your kid ended up somewhere amazing!

The valedictorian got into UVA, so I don't think they do yield protection or they'd reject that one who is almost certainly going HPY. Maybe something just wasn't great about the application in question.

Maybe the kid had a DUI.

Nah. NP here. If you are top of the class, but do not have a sob story, and are of a majority group - UVA will not accept you. I have known very well rounded top applicants first hand, who were rejected at UVA, but accepted at better schools.

No mystery, when you think about it.

Not true at all. DS and several of his friends who are all white, non-hooked top students at their FCPS high school (and with no sob stories) were accepted at UVA for this fall.

Perhaps - but I guarantee THE top went elsewhere - not UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t bet on it. My kid had a GPA of 4.53 after 1st semester of senior year from TJ with a couple of B’s in AP courses, and got rejected by UVA. Kids with lower grades got in. It’s a myth.

I just don’t get this. I hope your kid ended up somewhere amazing!

The valedictorian got into UVA, so I don't think they do yield protection or they'd reject that one who is almost certainly going HPY. Maybe something just wasn't great about the application in question.

Maybe the kid had a DUI.

Nah. NP here. If you are top of the class, but do not have a sob story, and are of a majority group - UVA will not accept you. I have known very well rounded top applicants first hand, who were rejected at UVA, but accepted at better schools.

No mystery, when you think about it.

Not true at all. DS and several of his friends who are all white, non-hooked top students at their FCPS high school (and with no sob stories) were accepted at UVA for this fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t bet on it. My kid had a GPA of 4.53 after 1st semester of senior year from TJ with a couple of B’s in AP courses, and got rejected by UVA. Kids with lower grades got in. It’s a myth.

I just don’t get this. I hope your kid ended up somewhere amazing!

The valedictorian got into UVA, so I don't think they do yield protection or they'd reject that one who is almost certainly going HPY. Maybe something just wasn't great about the application in question.

Maybe the kid had a DUI.

Nah. NP here. If you are top of the class, but do not have a sob story, and are of a majority group - UVA will not accept you. I have known very well rounded top applicants first hand, who were rejected at UVA, but accepted at better schools.

No mystery, when you think about it.

Anonymous wrote:Is there any room for mistakes in high school if you want UVA for college?

It really depends on who the student is and where she goes to high school. Arlington, Danville, Virginia Beach, New England prep school = a little or a lot more room for mistakes than Loudoun, Fairfax, Richmond magnet.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course it does. Va Tech is also off the table.

Unless BIPOC.

Tim Sands is still completely committed to his 40% BIPOC quota for VA Tech admissions. A few Bs won’t hurt a BIPOC applicant.

Asian or white? Forget about VA Tech.

Complete B.S. Life is challenging enough. Why lie?

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Anonymous wrote:Not at a top private. I know many kids who are attending with Bs from a DC Big3 school.

You say this like “top privates” are more rigorous or something. They aren’t.

Sorry but yes they are. No retesting like in public. Work is harder than things I saw in college and zero room for error.

+1

I teach public, kids in private. Way, way more difficult and colleges know this. Public engages in grade inflation, private grade deflation.

+1,000,000

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Anonymous wrote:Does UVA look at scores on AP exams?

I don't think so, very few schools consider those, mostly private universities.

Yes, you should if 4 or 5. My DC got credits for his AP work and for a NOVA summer course he took between junior anad senior year. Should I send my AP scores to UVA?

From the internet re UVA: "High school students should have their AP score reports sent directly to the Office of Admission at the University (College Code 5820) in the summer following the senior year of high school."

UVA parent here. Just to clarify, UVA will accept APs for credits (4s or 5s). However, and this is significant at UVA, many of those AP courses cannot be applied to general ed requirements (for College of Arts and Sciences anyway), which are extensive at UVA and mirror those of SLACs. For kids who take multiple history, English, science, etc., APs, they can graduate early by drawing on those credit, but they have to scramble to fulfill GE requirements that can't be fulfilled with ALL of their AP courses (only some).

Also, and I found this weird, students get placed into certain GE courses during their first year based on their SAT scores, no kidding. Happened to my very high-scoring SAT kid. Wasn't a fan of this approach, because the kid landed in courses with older students (sophomores, juniors). Advised kid to reject those course offerings, but they didn't have a choice. Really odd.

Anonymous wrote:Of course it does. Va Tech is also off the table.

Unless BIPOC.

Tim Sands is still completely committed to his 40% BIPOC quota for VA Tech admissions. A few Bs won’t hurt a BIPOC applicant.

Asian or white? Forget about VA Tech.

Anonymous wrote:Does UVA look at scores on AP exams?

Somewhat but not nearly to the degree they look at grades in the AP courses.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t bet on it. My kid had a GPA of 4.53 after 1st semester of senior year from TJ with a couple of B’s in AP courses, and got rejected by UVA. Kids with lower grades got in. It’s a myth.

I just don’t get this. I hope your kid ended up somewhere amazing!

It's not the GPA and the school that matters as much as the relative GPA of the student as comparted to their peers at their SAME SCHOOL. Lots of TJHS kids aren't getting accepted to UVA because so many of their peers from TJ with higher stats are locking in the acceptances. UVA can't accept only TJ students; they have informal, loose quotas per school and area.