Anonymous
09/08/2023 11:26
Subject: Re:I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Must be nice to have the money and time for "demonstratable interest"
It's actually quite easy now. It simply means doing online sessions and clicking on email links, emailing your admission officer with interesting questions that show you have done a bit of research about the school. It no longer means having to travel and phsyically visit
This 100%! My DD did not want to visit any school before applying (she was manifesting her anxiety about the process, I think). She ended up visiting 2 and not even applying to the other. She applied to 18 schools, most of which cared about demonstrated interest, targeted the ones that cared and made sure to do a virtual tour, see them if they came to her school, read their emails and interact with their website, and attend online events for some. She got into almost all of the schools. It’s not that hard and it is not expensive.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 10:34
Subject: I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
Calling ED "demonstrated interest" is a literal interpretation of the words and not correct.
Really, "demonstrated interest" is when admissions uses things like attending their programs or interacting with emails to predict how likely you are to attend.
Yes, applying ED demonstrates interest, but it's not included in the practice of using DI.
Really, "demonstrated interest" is when admissions uses things like attending their programs or interacting with emails to predict how likely you are to attend.
Yes, applying ED demonstrates interest, but it's not included in the practice of using DI.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 10:13
Subject: I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“What they are saying is that they do not factor an individual student’s expression of interest in any way, shape or form in admissions. It is not that complicated.”
Offering ED is exactly a display of demonstrated interest and yield protection for UVA. It is not that complicated.
I think you're blurring lines here. Demonstrated interest is turning up for tours, emailing questions, opening emails with links and following them. ED is an overt commitment to a college. You can apply ED having never done any of the actions that demonstrate interest.
Applying ED IS an example of the most demonstrated interest of all. Saying I will attend your school if accepted shows the ultimate interest.
No it's not. Its FULL COMMITMENT. Demonstrated interest is just those other things, emails, tours, questions etc.
Can you rephrase what you think the PP was saying and your reaction to it?
You appear to be paraphrasing PP but saying "No".
Anonymous
09/08/2023 09:46
Subject: I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
Anonymous wrote:Highly selective colleges don’t care. Others do.
+1
Anonymous
09/07/2023 22:22
Subject: I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At a Boston University event last year the presenter stated they do factor demonstrated interest, and made clear that the best way to demonstrate interest was to apply ED.
That’s what demonstrated interest has shifted to.
So then only the rich can apply because you don’t find out your final price until afterward.
My kid applied nowhere ED. We can’t afford full price yet can’t get much in FA.
You can get an estimate of expected financial aid through the net price calculator and if they do not meet it you can get out of the commitment. What you cannot know is merit aid. Frankly, if your kid is strong enough to get merit aid at a school they really shouldn’t have to apply ED to get in. The point of merit aid is to compete for students the school really wants.
Anonymous
09/07/2023 21:59
Subject: I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“What they are saying is that they do not factor an individual student’s expression of interest in any way, shape or form in admissions. It is not that complicated.”
Offering ED is exactly a display of demonstrated interest and yield protection for UVA. It is not that complicated.
I think you're blurring lines here. Demonstrated interest is turning up for tours, emailing questions, opening emails with links and following them. ED is an overt commitment to a college. You can apply ED having never done any of the actions that demonstrate interest.
Applying ED IS an example of the most demonstrated interest of all. Saying I will attend your school if accepted shows the ultimate interest.
No it's not. Its FULL COMMITMENT. Demonstrated interest is just those other things, emails, tours, questions etc.
Anonymous
09/07/2023 20:38
Subject: I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
Anonymous wrote:At a Boston University event last year the presenter stated they do factor demonstrated interest, and made clear that the best way to demonstrate interest was to apply ED.
That’s what demonstrated interest has shifted to.
So then only the rich can apply because you don’t find out your final price until afterward.
My kid applied nowhere ED. We can’t afford full price yet can’t get much in FA.
Anonymous
09/07/2023 20:34
Subject: I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
Anonymous wrote:Depends on the school so you have to do your research. My 1490, NMC commended, 7 APs, 4.3 weighted GPA kid got waitlisted by Skidmore. They should have gotten in easily but honestly they almost forgot that they wanted to apply there and never saw the school or interacted with it in any way. I actually tried to get them not to apply, but it was in the original plan and my kid likes to stick with the plans. They were definitely waitlisted because of lack of interest, which is fine because they- in fact- were not interested. But it is a thing for some schools. FYI said kid go into W&M, Tech, Loyola Md with a large scholarship, JMU honors, F&M with a scholarship….
They knew your kid would not be interested. That means their admissions team is on top of things.
My kid and others with high GPAs were rejected from Syracuse. They had a lot of demonstrated interest too and it was their top choice. A kid with a much lower GPA was accepted because they have a talent the department wanted.
Anonymous
09/07/2023 19:11
Subject: I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“What they are saying is that they do not factor an individual student’s expression of interest in any way, shape or form in admissions. It is not that complicated.”
Offering ED is exactly a display of demonstrated interest and yield protection for UVA. It is not that complicated.
I think you're blurring lines here. Demonstrated interest is turning up for tours, emailing questions, opening emails with links and following them. ED is an overt commitment to a college. You can apply ED having never done any of the actions that demonstrate interest.
Applying ED IS an example of the most demonstrated interest of all. Saying I will attend your school if accepted shows the ultimate interest.
However, a school may find it odd that you ED'ed with zero interaction with the school. Like you have no idea what you are getting into (and maybe you are a greater risk of backing out for "financial aid" reasons as it's not a totally enforceable commitment). If you are marginal or even if not, you should probably visit before ED'ing. Well, you should do that anyway just out of common sense.
Anonymous
09/07/2023 19:11
Subject: I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“What they are saying is that they do not factor an individual student’s expression of interest in any way, shape or form in admissions. It is not that complicated.”
Offering ED is exactly a display of demonstrated interest and yield protection for UVA. It is not that complicated.
I think you're blurring lines here. Demonstrated interest is turning up for tours, emailing questions, opening emails with links and following them. ED is an overt commitment to a college. You can apply ED having never done any of the actions that demonstrate interest.
NP. Perhaps a better term would involve yield. Demonstrated interest is an input for a college's yield algorithm. ED is virtually guaranteed yield.
Yes. This is spot on.