Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was in a family of wrestlers,2 of 3 brothers were on state champions teams in PA. It was the largest team in the school. Even there it has dropped in popularity.

Guys just don’t enjoy having their face in another guy’s hairy sweaty armpit as much as they used to. Go figure.🤷🏾

Let’s see how field sports will help if you’re being attacked on a subway train.
Navy SEALs, many of whom have a wrestling background, I guess are also small and unathletic—didn’t realize that.

It's a great cross training skill for football linemen, MMA fighters, and boxers. Terence Crawford credited his high school wrestling background with winning the fight that made him the first undisputed welterweight in boxing history.

Anonymous wrote:I was in a family of wrestlers,2 of 3 brothers were on state champions teams in PA. It was the largest team in the school. Even there it has dropped in popularity.

Guys just don’t enjoy having their face in another guy’s hairy sweaty armpit as much as they used to. Go figure.🤷🏾

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tennis has a ton of international players too.

Basketball is where the best male American athletes are though. It is impressive to see them pick up sports like tennis and golf.

Lacrosse and hockey players rank higher in my personal view, which is not to say that basketball are not first rates athletes.

Lacrosse? Lolz that’s where all the unathletic preppy white boys go when they can’t make the cut in other sports

Anonymous wrote:Wrestling is an amazing sport. A multi thousand year tradition and it’s one of the basic human athletic activities. A lot of the best MMA fighters have a wrestling background

Becoming an MMA fighter is certainly a goal I have recommended to my son.

Anonymous wrote:Tennis has a ton of international players too.

Basketball is where the best male American athletes are though. It is impressive to see them pick up sports like tennis and golf.

Lacrosse and hockey players rank higher in my personal view, which is not to say that basketball are not first rates athletes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrestling is super creepy and weird.

Second only to boxing in terms of how ugly it is. Followed by football and hockey. All too dangerous and not at all fun to watch.

I could not disagree more. Wrestling is far from ugly. It is a combat sport, but the intent of the sport is not violence (like football or boxing). The intent is to pin your opponent, not knock them unconscious.

Totally different

Wrestling is an incredibly challenging sport. In 9th grade I was 105 pounds. That year was All State in cross country and went on to run 4:06 in the mile and went to college on athletic scholarship. State champion so it wasn’t like pursuing track was a mistake.

The wrestling coach invited me to a try out in 9th grade and I beat the varsity guy. I wasn’t that surprised since I just set the school chin-up record and was very strong for my size. The coach - who I respected - acknowledged my track talent but laid out the case why I would be a better wrestler. My track coach didn’t disagree with the wrestling data, but in the end wrestling was just brutally tough and difficult. Yes, I likely should have stood up to the challenge, especially in the Midwest where wrestling is valued, but the truth is I won a lot of races being relatively relaxed and enjoying it until kicking like crazy (I had speed and ran sprints as well) at the end. Wrestling required continual vigilance, even against an inferior opponent. Wrestlers are tough and I admire them tremendously. Only an effete cohort could find fault with them.

You're pretty much proving the point that it's for small boys who can't play field sports.

My high school had an all state football player, state champion in wrestling, and a NHL hockey player, 220 pounds. Not only was he not small, he was so strong it was frightening. Thankfully he respected me and my equally talented brother and we got along. No one in his right mind would cross him. And it would have been fun to make your idiotic statement (I assume you were an accomplished athlete, right?) to this guy. My 60 year old high school is having its inaugural athletic hall of fame and while I won't attend because it speaks to only high school accomplishments there is little doubt that this kid (aka small boy who can't play field sports) was the first nominated. I have met the Brand brothers in Iowa, raised in single mother home, and on to great accomplishments. You wouldn't know who they are. They are so mentally tough I cannot even adequately describe them. A 170 pound wrestler (must be small as you relate) lives in my neighborhood, having been an All American at Iowa State. He thinks he was not tough enough to be at the top - and this guy is brutal in terms of handling stress - of course, it is as you say with vast amount of athletic accomplishment you have earned you aver they are merely small boys who can't play field sports.

As for the word effete, well - perhaps harsh. But that is how I see many of the DCUM anti-athlete types. I was raised in a home without education and being mentally tough was everything. I used to laugh when these elitists at the schools I attended - not tough or independent in any way - would tell me about the joys of trade unions, yet never having worked with tough working class people. I was a Teamster every summer age 17-23 and the best benchmark of toughness is the ability to keep your mouth shut in those environments, not pontificate like elitists do (especially on DCUM as they snivel about which private schools their coddled offspring should attend), and work very hard. Some of these kids wouldn't have lasted four hours at that job. Perhaps lacking in toughness and capacity to handle intense stress would be better than effete. And it is a delight to know the DCUM elitists are pissed off by my posts. And even a further delight that I have done better than most academically on my own terms. Oh, and throw in financially as well - I certainly didn't have mommy and daddy helping me. I will stick with the wrestlers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrestling is for small bozos

Lol. you would crap your pants before even thinking about saying that to a NCAA wrestler

Oh please. That guy is what? 5' 7"? Any NCAA basketball, baseball, or football player--or maybe even field hockey player--could easily take him.

Parent of a basketball player who plays at a high level and believes it’s very much harder to play basketball in college than to wrestle because of the number of boys who want to play basketball (115 kids tried out for the varsity team at my kid’s HS, and a similar number went to JV tryouts).

Also, two things:

- the man pictured is 6’2”.

- a 5’7” NCAA wrestler could take down and subdue almost all athletes from other sports regardless of size.

I did MMA for about 6 years, and during that time had a big prison guard (who you’d think would know how to fight) lose his temper and attack me. I actually got bored blocking his clumsy punches and attempts to grapple me (and it’s not like I was that good). On another occasion, a guy who played O line for Clemson wanted to spar, and, after about two seconds, I was apologizing for hurting him. As in all things, training makes a LOT of difference.

Wrestling, unlike most other school sports, is good for self defense and useful for life. I saw a William Gacy (crazy clown serial killer) documentary and he said the only victim who escaped from him was a high school wrestler.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sport has been one of the unfortunate NCAA victims in all the Title Nine progress. There are hardly any NCAA programs to go to compared to another winter sport like basketball.

Oh okay, blame women for an unpopular sport. One that requires young men to foster eating disorders and slap around a sweaty floor together. Yep, if not for those stupid girls who want an equal opportunity to play sports, wrestling would be so popular. Face it, the only "athletes" who wrestle, are small boys who cannot excel at other sports. Sorry, it's the truth. But go ahead and blame female athletes for that.

Female "athletes" can't excel at ANY sport except gymnastics. High school boys beat pro women in almost every sport. That's why Title IX exists. Why affirmative action quotas for girls but not short boys?

Crazy that volleyball is 10:1 women to men. Is all because of the cute shorts and indoor play?

Anonymous wrote:Pp, posted too soon. Anyways DH said wrestling was a lot harder than football or the other sports he played.

Of course, anyone who has ever wrestled will always say its harder than the other sports they played.

Bc it is

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tennis has a ton of international players too.

Basketball is where the best male American athletes are though. It is impressive to see them pick up sports like tennis and golf.

Agree 100%. My husband is always saying that if even the top 10% of American basketball players or even football players played soccer (or even tennis), America would dominate on the world stage. I tend to agree.

Genetics alone disqualifies like 99.9 percent of the population from even having a chance to play basketball in college. It all comes down to your natural height and strength.

Pp, posted too soon. Anyways DH said wrestling was a lot harder than football or the other sports he played.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrestling is super creepy and weird.

Second only to boxing in terms of how ugly it is. Followed by football and hockey. All too dangerous and not at all fun to watch.

I could not disagree more. Wrestling is far from ugly. It is a combat sport, but the intent of the sport is not violence (like football or boxing). The intent is to pin your opponent, not knock them unconscious.

Totally different

Wrestling is an incredibly challenging sport. In 9th grade I was 105 pounds. That year was All State in cross country and went on to run 4:06 in the mile and went to college on athletic scholarship. State champion so it wasn’t like pursuing track was a mistake.

The wrestling coach invited me to a try out in 9th grade and I beat the varsity guy. I wasn’t that surprised since I just set the school chin-up record and was very strong for my size. The coach - who I respected - acknowledged my track talent but laid out the case why I would be a better wrestler. My track coach didn’t disagree with the wrestling data, but in the end wrestling was just brutally tough and difficult. Yes, I likely should have stood up to the challenge, especially in the Midwest where wrestling is valued, but the truth is I won a lot of races being relatively relaxed and enjoying it until kicking like crazy (I had speed and ran sprints as well) at the end. Wrestling required continual vigilance, even against an inferior opponent. Wrestlers are tough and I admire them tremendously. Only an effete cohort could find fault with them.

You're pretty much proving the point that it's for small boys who can't play field sports.

There’s no need to be rude!
My DH got a wrestling scholarship (full, for Air Force) but he passed and went on with a D1 football scholarship. He’s not small and can definitely play field sports!

Such an uncomfortable sport.