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While I personally hold nothing against the topics above, when did English class become a brain washing course with hidden agenda? Why can't the kids simply learn the beauty of the English language, and be inspired by the great minds, even from a complete different time? Or am I living in such a sheltered life that the topics are prevailing way of life now? Shouldn't all the current events be part of civics class?

I don't know if the list is specific to his class or to Cooper, but my question to the wise readers here--what should I do? Tell my kids not to read these books which means going against the school? Or ask for an alternate list?

- It hasn’t. Have you read all of the books? ANY of the books? It sounds like you’re really running wild with your assumptions. So I’d suggest that you read at least a few of the books and see if they offer ways for kids to learn the beauty of the English language, and to be inspired by great minds.

I think it’s bizarre for you to ask for an alternate list — when you apparently haven’t read any of the books. What would you ask for? Books written by dead white people? Books that only reference “current events” from at least 60 or more years ago — and prohibiting any class discussion that relates in any way to more recent current events? I’d be curious to learn how those conversations go.

English class indeed became a brain washing course with hidden agenda. In Cooper's 7th grade English syllabus, a list of concepts of study starts with "Identity", ends with "Change". For parents who want their kids to learn English, go find some other resources for your children. Besides classics, you may introduce the books such as Animal Farm, 1984, Please Stop Helping Us, Discrimination and Disparities, Irreversible Damage to your children.

Those are the units that are outlined by the county, not by Cooper. If the word "identity" bothers you, there are huge issues in your life. Identity is a huge concept for adolescents who are trying to determine who they are and how they fit into their communities. Are they athletic? Artistic? A combination of the two? Are they quiet and introspective? Risk-takers? Conservative in their approach to new things? Are they leaders? Team players? Religious? Community-service-driven? Scouts? Musicians? Readers? Humorous? Dramatic? Son's? Daughters? Siblings?

The identity unit is not political, nor is it "woke." It's relevant to adolescence.

Amazing how we got through school back in the 80s and 90s without any units on “identity.”

We also weren't vaccinated against meningitis, varicella, and HPV. We've advanced since the 80s and 90s.

We also didn't all ride in car seats until we were safe in a seat belt, and many of us rode in a lap belt only. We've learned since then.

Many of grew up getting spanked and harshly punished. We've learned the error of our ways.

Many of grew up being told that depression and anxiety were signs of weakness. Thankfully we've learned that isn't isn't case.

Isn't it INCREDIBLE how we can be better educators, parents, and providers now? Let's do better than what we had.

We are certainly trying very hard at all of these improvements but the proof is in the pudding. Kids these days are anxious, unsocialized, distracted messes.

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While I personally hold nothing against the topics above, when did English class become a brain washing course with hidden agenda? Why can't the kids simply learn the beauty of the English language, and be inspired by the great minds, even from a complete different time? Or am I living in such a sheltered life that the topics are prevailing way of life now? Shouldn't all the current events be part of civics class?

I don't know if the list is specific to his class or to Cooper, but my question to the wise readers here--what should I do? Tell my kids not to read these books which means going against the school? Or ask for an alternate list?

- It hasn’t. Have you read all of the books? ANY of the books? It sounds like you’re really running wild with your assumptions. So I’d suggest that you read at least a few of the books and see if they offer ways for kids to learn the beauty of the English language, and to be inspired by great minds.

I think it’s bizarre for you to ask for an alternate list — when you apparently haven’t read any of the books. What would you ask for? Books written by dead white people? Books that only reference “current events” from at least 60 or more years ago — and prohibiting any class discussion that relates in any way to more recent current events? I’d be curious to learn how those conversations go.

English class indeed became a brain washing course with hidden agenda. In Cooper's 7th grade English syllabus, a list of concepts of study starts with "Identity", ends with "Change". For parents who want their kids to learn English, go find some other resources for your children. Besides classics, you may introduce the books such as Animal Farm, 1984, Please Stop Helping Us, Discrimination and Disparities, Irreversible Damage to your children.

Those are the units that are outlined by the county, not by Cooper. If the word "identity" bothers you, there are huge issues in your life. Identity is a huge concept for adolescents who are trying to determine who they are and how they fit into their communities. Are they athletic? Artistic? A combination of the two? Are they quiet and introspective? Risk-takers? Conservative in their approach to new things? Are they leaders? Team players? Religious? Community-service-driven? Scouts? Musicians? Readers? Humorous? Dramatic? Son's? Daughters? Siblings?

The identity unit is not political, nor is it "woke." It's relevant to adolescence.

Amazing how we got through school back in the 80s and 90s without any units on “identity.”

We also got through school without our parents sticking their noses into curriculum and telling teachers how to do their jobs.

These identity explorations are causing more confusion than anything else. Almost by design.

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While I personally hold nothing against the topics above, when did English class become a brain washing course with hidden agenda? Why can't the kids simply learn the beauty of the English language, and be inspired by the great minds, even from a complete different time? Or am I living in such a sheltered life that the topics are prevailing way of life now? Shouldn't all the current events be part of civics class?

I don't know if the list is specific to his class or to Cooper, but my question to the wise readers here--what should I do? Tell my kids not to read these books which means going against the school? Or ask for an alternate list?

- It hasn’t. Have you read all of the books? ANY of the books? It sounds like you’re really running wild with your assumptions. So I’d suggest that you read at least a few of the books and see if they offer ways for kids to learn the beauty of the English language, and to be inspired by great minds.

I think it’s bizarre for you to ask for an alternate list — when you apparently haven’t read any of the books. What would you ask for? Books written by dead white people? Books that only reference “current events” from at least 60 or more years ago — and prohibiting any class discussion that relates in any way to more recent current events? I’d be curious to learn how those conversations go.

English class indeed became a brain washing course with hidden agenda. In Cooper's 7th grade English syllabus, a list of concepts of study starts with "Identity", ends with "Change". For parents who want their kids to learn English, go find some other resources for your children. Besides classics, you may introduce the books such as Animal Farm, 1984, Please Stop Helping Us, Discrimination and Disparities, Irreversible Damage to your children.

Those are the units that are outlined by the county, not by Cooper. If the word "identity" bothers you, there are huge issues in your life. Identity is a huge concept for adolescents who are trying to determine who they are and how they fit into their communities. Are they athletic? Artistic? A combination of the two? Are they quiet and introspective? Risk-takers? Conservative in their approach to new things? Are they leaders? Team players? Religious? Community-service-driven? Scouts? Musicians? Readers? Humorous? Dramatic? Son's? Daughters? Siblings?

The identity unit is not political, nor is it "woke." It's relevant to adolescence.

Amazing how we got through school back in the 80s and 90s without any units on “identity.”

We also weren't vaccinated against meningitis, varicella, and HPV. We've advanced since the 80s and 90s.

We also didn't all ride in car seats until we were safe in a seat belt, and many of us rode in a lap belt only. We've learned since then.

Many of grew up getting spanked and harshly punished. We've learned the error of our ways.

Many of grew up being told that depression and anxiety were signs of weakness. Thankfully we've learned that isn't isn't case.

Isn't it INCREDIBLE how we can be better educators, parents, and providers now? Let's do better than what we had.

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While I personally hold nothing against the topics above, when did English class become a brain washing course with hidden agenda? Why can't the kids simply learn the beauty of the English language, and be inspired by the great minds, even from a complete different time? Or am I living in such a sheltered life that the topics are prevailing way of life now? Shouldn't all the current events be part of civics class?

I don't know if the list is specific to his class or to Cooper, but my question to the wise readers here--what should I do? Tell my kids not to read these books which means going against the school? Or ask for an alternate list?

- It hasn’t. Have you read all of the books? ANY of the books? It sounds like you’re really running wild with your assumptions. So I’d suggest that you read at least a few of the books and see if they offer ways for kids to learn the beauty of the English language, and to be inspired by great minds.

I think it’s bizarre for you to ask for an alternate list — when you apparently haven’t read any of the books. What would you ask for? Books written by dead white people? Books that only reference “current events” from at least 60 or more years ago — and prohibiting any class discussion that relates in any way to more recent current events? I’d be curious to learn how those conversations go.

English class indeed became a brain washing course with hidden agenda. In Cooper's 7th grade English syllabus, a list of concepts of study starts with "Identity", ends with "Change". For parents who want their kids to learn English, go find some other resources for your children. Besides classics, you may introduce the books such as Animal Farm, 1984, Please Stop Helping Us, Discrimination and Disparities, Irreversible Damage to your children.

Those are the units that are outlined by the county, not by Cooper. If the word "identity" bothers you, there are huge issues in your life. Identity is a huge concept for adolescents who are trying to determine who they are and how they fit into their communities. Are they athletic? Artistic? A combination of the two? Are they quiet and introspective? Risk-takers? Conservative in their approach to new things? Are they leaders? Team players? Religious? Community-service-driven? Scouts? Musicians? Readers? Humorous? Dramatic? Son's? Daughters? Siblings?

The identity unit is not political, nor is it "woke." It's relevant to adolescence.

Amazing how we got through school back in the 80s and 90s without any units on “identity.”

But you did have unit and books on identity and understanding self: the Little Prince, On the Road, Life of Pi, Dear God it’s Me, Margaret, Jane Eyre, the Bell Jar, etc.

Anonymous wrote:We also got by without lockdown drills. Funny how times change isn't it?

I remember doing nuclear drills as a kid.

how are 1 and 3 on the list (Pakistan/family & a mixed race family) a hidden agenda?

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While I personally hold nothing against the topics above, when did English class become a brain washing course with hidden agenda? Why can't the kids simply learn the beauty of the English language, and be inspired by the great minds, even from a complete different time? Or am I living in such a sheltered life that the topics are prevailing way of life now? Shouldn't all the current events be part of civics class?

I don't know if the list is specific to his class or to Cooper, but my question to the wise readers here--what should I do? Tell my kids not to read these books which means going against the school? Or ask for an alternate list?

- It hasn’t. Have you read all of the books? ANY of the books? It sounds like you’re really running wild with your assumptions. So I’d suggest that you read at least a few of the books and see if they offer ways for kids to learn the beauty of the English language, and to be inspired by great minds.

I think it’s bizarre for you to ask for an alternate list — when you apparently haven’t read any of the books. What would you ask for? Books written by dead white people? Books that only reference “current events” from at least 60 or more years ago — and prohibiting any class discussion that relates in any way to more recent current events? I’d be curious to learn how those conversations go.

English class indeed became a brain washing course with hidden agenda. In Cooper's 7th grade English syllabus, a list of concepts of study starts with "Identity", ends with "Change". For parents who want their kids to learn English, go find some other resources for your children. Besides classics, you may introduce the books such as Animal Farm, 1984, Please Stop Helping Us, Discrimination and Disparities, Irreversible Damage to your children.

Those are the units that are outlined by the county, not by Cooper. If the word "identity" bothers you, there are huge issues in your life. Identity is a huge concept for adolescents who are trying to determine who they are and how they fit into their communities. Are they athletic? Artistic? A combination of the two? Are they quiet and introspective? Risk-takers? Conservative in their approach to new things? Are they leaders? Team players? Religious? Community-service-driven? Scouts? Musicians? Readers? Humorous? Dramatic? Son's? Daughters? Siblings?

The identity unit is not political, nor is it "woke." It's relevant to adolescence.

Amazing how we got through school back in the 80s and 90s without any units on “identity.”

Yes, and many adolescents of that time struggled because they felt that who they were didn't fit the definition of what they were "supposed to be."

I was musically-inclined, but suppressed that part of who I was because it didn't fit the image of what I "should" have been-- a basketball player, to match my height of 5'11" in eighth grade. I felt forced into athletics when I actually wanted to be involved in the arts.

My best friend began college as a pre-law major because she felt that is what she "should" have been since both her parents were attorneys. She finally felt comfortable studying what she wanted to study when she was entering her fourth year. She was miserable in college until she felt comfortable speaking up. But no one ever asked her what she wanted.

My cousin had little interest in taking AP science classes, but he was told that was the track he was on in school, so he didn't feel comfortable fighting that. He wanted to follow his love of languages, not science, but no one ever asked him what he wanted.

We also got by without lockdown drills. Funny how times change isn't it?

Yeah. Isn’t that interesting?

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While I personally hold nothing against the topics above, when did English class become a brain washing course with hidden agenda? Why can't the kids simply learn the beauty of the English language, and be inspired by the great minds, even from a complete different time? Or am I living in such a sheltered life that the topics are prevailing way of life now? Shouldn't all the current events be part of civics class?

I don't know if the list is specific to his class or to Cooper, but my question to the wise readers here--what should I do? Tell my kids not to read these books which means going against the school? Or ask for an alternate list?

- It hasn’t. Have you read all of the books? ANY of the books? It sounds like you’re really running wild with your assumptions. So I’d suggest that you read at least a few of the books and see if they offer ways for kids to learn the beauty of the English language, and to be inspired by great minds.

I think it’s bizarre for you to ask for an alternate list — when you apparently haven’t read any of the books. What would you ask for? Books written by dead white people? Books that only reference “current events” from at least 60 or more years ago — and prohibiting any class discussion that relates in any way to more recent current events? I’d be curious to learn how those conversations go.

English class indeed became a brain washing course with hidden agenda. In Cooper's 7th grade English syllabus, a list of concepts of study starts with "Identity", ends with "Change". For parents who want their kids to learn English, go find some other resources for your children. Besides classics, you may introduce the books such as Animal Farm, 1984, Please Stop Helping Us, Discrimination and Disparities, Irreversible Damage to your children.

Those are the units that are outlined by the county, not by Cooper. If the word "identity" bothers you, there are huge issues in your life. Identity is a huge concept for adolescents who are trying to determine who they are and how they fit into their communities. Are they athletic? Artistic? A combination of the two? Are they quiet and introspective? Risk-takers? Conservative in their approach to new things? Are they leaders? Team players? Religious? Community-service-driven? Scouts? Musicians? Readers? Humorous? Dramatic? Son's? Daughters? Siblings?

The identity unit is not political, nor is it "woke." It's relevant to adolescence.

Amazing how we got through school back in the 80s and 90s without any units on “identity.”

Cooper/Langley always find new things to complain about.

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While I personally hold nothing against the topics above, when did English class become a brain washing course with hidden agenda? Why can't the kids simply learn the beauty of the English language, and be inspired by the great minds, even from a complete different time? Or am I living in such a sheltered life that the topics are prevailing way of life now? Shouldn't all the current events be part of civics class?

I don't know if the list is specific to his class or to Cooper, but my question to the wise readers here--what should I do? Tell my kids not to read these books which means going against the school? Or ask for an alternate list?

- It hasn’t. Have you read all of the books? ANY of the books? It sounds like you’re really running wild with your assumptions. So I’d suggest that you read at least a few of the books and see if they offer ways for kids to learn the beauty of the English language, and to be inspired by great minds.

I think it’s bizarre for you to ask for an alternate list — when you apparently haven’t read any of the books. What would you ask for? Books written by dead white people? Books that only reference “current events” from at least 60 or more years ago — and prohibiting any class discussion that relates in any way to more recent current events? I’d be curious to learn how those conversations go.

English class indeed became a brain washing course with hidden agenda. In Cooper's 7th grade English syllabus, a list of concepts of study starts with "Identity", ends with "Change". For parents who want their kids to learn English, go find some other resources for your children. Besides classics, you may introduce the books such as Animal Farm, 1984, Please Stop Helping Us, Discrimination and Disparities, Irreversible Damage to your children.

Those are the units that are outlined by the county, not by Cooper. If the word "identity" bothers you, there are huge issues in your life. Identity is a huge concept for adolescents who are trying to determine who they are and how they fit into their communities. Are they athletic? Artistic? A combination of the two? Are they quiet and introspective? Risk-takers? Conservative in their approach to new things? Are they leaders? Team players? Religious? Community-service-driven? Scouts? Musicians? Readers? Humorous? Dramatic? Son's? Daughters? Siblings?

The identity unit is not political, nor is it "woke." It's relevant to adolescence.

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Anonymous wrote:Coarseness and filth? Really?

Yes. Gratuitous.

You're talking about The Hate U Give? What the actual...have you read the book?

The black people in these documentaries will help you understand why books such as The Hate You Give are counterproductive in that they perpetuate a stereotype that limits the potential of black people to be anything they were born to be in a nation that elected a black president not once, but twice:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVLj-zARCv8
2. Uncle Tom II - An American Odyssey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qXdim5EeBw

I have no words, really. A documentary on the history of Black conservatives is supposed to prove that the Hate U Give is gratuitous, coarse, and filthy?
And again...have you read the book?

A documentary made by black people who see themselves not like victims, but rather like a group of people with lots of potential and opportunities to succeed in America — just like anybody else — is aimed at rejecting the narrative that they are a subclass, aggressive, rapists, gangsters, drug dealers, women bitters, promiscuous, or anything else that is hopeless. If identifying themselves in a positive light and focus on their achievements makes them conservative in your view, then the opposite of those traits ought to be the perspective non-conservatives have of blacks in America. Your words, not mine…

I thought the Hate U Give is also aimed at rejecting the narrative hat they are a subclass, aggressive, rapists, gangsters, drug dealers, women bitters, promiscuous, or anything else that is hopeless???

It is...and the PP keeps referencing this documentary as if it has anything to do with the book or...I don't know even why this is being brought up in this thread, TBH.

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Anonymous wrote:Coarseness and filth? Really?

Yes. Gratuitous.

You're talking about The Hate U Give? What the actual...have you read the book?

The black people in these documentaries will help you understand why books such as The Hate You Give are counterproductive in that they perpetuate a stereotype that limits the potential of black people to be anything they were born to be in a nation that elected a black president not once, but twice:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVLj-zARCv8
2. Uncle Tom II - An American Odyssey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qXdim5EeBw

I have no words, really. A documentary on the history of Black conservatives is supposed to prove that the Hate U Give is gratuitous, coarse, and filthy?
And again...have you read the book?

A documentary made by black people who see themselves not like victims, but rather like a group of people with lots of potential and opportunities to succeed in America — just like anybody else — is aimed at rejecting the narrative that they are a subclass, aggressive, rapists, gangsters, drug dealers, women bitters, promiscuous, or anything else that is hopeless. If identifying themselves in a positive light and focus on their achievements makes them conservative in your view, then the opposite of those traits ought to be the perspective non-conservatives have of blacks in America. Your words, not mine…

I thought the Hate U Give is also aimed at rejecting the narrative hat they are a subclass, aggressive, rapists, gangsters, drug dealers, women bitters, promiscuous, or anything else that is hopeless???

DP. Do you remember the studies about girls who watched programming aimed at girls that included relational aggression and conflict for the first 15 minutes of the show then ended with a neat conclusion where the conflict resolved? Children imitated the relational aggression, since it was the majority of the show. They fought more with friends and behaved badly. The problem solving skills at the end of the show were just a blip.