Anonymous wrote:I’m PP with the 10% which seems to be very confusing to some of you. Take the entire Senior class for the school — W&L is frequently larger than YHS. That’s the denominator. Then, look at Arlington Magazines published information about where Arlington students are admitted. Look at how many students at W&L are admitted and divide by the size of the senior class. Do the same for Yorktown. Now make sure you have the right years. And also don’t just look at one off year. I did a five year average. At each school, about 10% of the senior class is admitted to UVA each year. That doesn’t mean LOTS of things—I am certainly aware—but it was a useful data point to me. Go forth and argue.

That doesn't sync with the numbers someone posted above that indicated applicants accepted v. accepted % of entire class.

I’m PP with the 10% which seems to be very confusing to some of you. Take the entire Senior class for the school — W&L is frequently larger than YHS. That’s the denominator. Then, look at Arlington Magazines published information about where Arlington students are admitted. Look at how many students at W&L are admitted and divide by the size of the senior class. Do the same for Yorktown. Now make sure you have the right years. And also don’t just look at one off year. I did a five year average. At each school, about 10% of the senior class is admitted to UVA each year. That doesn’t mean LOTS of things—I am certainly aware—but it was a useful data point to me. Go forth and argue.

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Anonymous wrote:Where did the 10% come from? There are only 400 kids graduating from YHS & WL each year?

10% of the students who applied to the school.

No, it’s more like 20-25% accepted. Or do you mean 10% of kids who apply actually go to UVA? Because a PP kept saying 10% of the class.

Anonymous wrote:Where did the 10% come from? There are only 400 kids graduating from YHS & WL each year?

10% of the students who applied to the school.

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NP. My (middle school) son really wants to attend Wakefield to play for its basketball teams with his SA friends, but we're zoned for Yorktown.

I hope after new career center HS is built, we'll all have more flexibility to transfer.

Yeah, I think that’s the hope. They might also have to do another boundary shift to even things out so anyone can transfer anywhere, because they aren’t allowing transfers to WHS this year given how crowded it is, but we have friends who did exactly this, also for basketball and to stay with friends, just a few years ago. So might be hope for you when it’s time.

Off topic, but I think going to WHS is probably really good for high achieving kids who plan to apply to selective colleges their families can afford without scholarships, because there are just fewer kids doing that for financial or academic reasons. Maybe there are some trade-offs to attending a school with the demographics of WHS, but there’s also some benefit for the type of student I’ve described.

Where did the 10% come from? There are only 400 kids graduating from YHS & WL each year?

If you want to know how many students are in any grade at any APS school, here's the sheet all in one place (this is from April 2024):

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2024/05/U-MEM_281-Membership-Summary-All-1.pdf

Anonymous wrote:I recall looking at Arlington Magazine’s numbers a year or two ago, and something seemed altogether off. Are these numbers collected only if a student volunteers the information? Are we sure the numbers are representative of all college applicants from these schools? I remember seeing a few ivies where there was maybe one kid who got in and I couldn’t help but wonder if it was the same kid who got in to all three - and of course he’s going to report his results because he’s presumably very proud to be accepted at these competitive schools.

The published numbers, according to Arlington Magazine, are admittances which is quite different from matriculations. As you note, the one kid who got into Yale probably also accounts for one UVA admittance and several other standout admittances. I agree. Its entirely fair in my view to compare UVA to UVA admittances at two different schools. Generally 10% of the class as YHS and W&L are admitted. Of course, it’s not 1:1 with the Top 10%, given hooks (URM, athlete, etc.) and not every member of the Top 10% will apply or be admitted.

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Anonymous wrote:25 out of 99 got into UVA from Wakefield vs 41 out of 241 at Yorktown.

So a higher % of Wakefield students got in than Yorktown students? Or do I not know what to do math lol.

Nearly 25% of Wakefield students compared to 17% of Yorktown kids (out of those that applied)

That’s one way to do math. Another might be: Yorktown sends twice as many students do the state’s flagship university. But you do your math!

How big are each graduating class? NP.

Doesn't change which mathematical method one prefers. Nevertheless, WHS graduating class was 540+ last year. Don't know; but not too significantly different this year. The reality is, fewer WHS students are applying to a lot of the schools YHS/W-L students are applying to; and far more WHS students go on to NOVA. For many of those students, they are the first generation college students - of which there are far more at WHS than the other high schools. It's all quite logical. But YHS and WL parents like the other math that makes it look like their schools are just much better.

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Anonymous wrote:25 out of 99 got into UVA from Wakefield vs 41 out of 241 at Yorktown.

So a higher % of Wakefield students got in than Yorktown students? Or do I not know what to do math lol.

Nearly 25% of Wakefield students compared to 17% of Yorktown kids (out of those that applied)

That’s one way to do math. Another might be: Yorktown sends twice as many students do the state’s flagship university. But you do your math!

Seems you are the one doing your math, a math to distort academic measures.

I recall looking at Arlington Magazine’s numbers a year or two ago, and something seemed altogether off. Are these numbers collected only if a student volunteers the information? Are we sure the numbers are representative of all college applicants from these schools? I remember seeing a few ivies where there was maybe one kid who got in and I couldn’t help but wonder if it was the same kid who got in to all three - and of course he’s going to report his results because he’s presumably very proud to be accepted at these competitive schools.

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Anonymous wrote:25 out of 99 got into UVA from Wakefield vs 41 out of 241 at Yorktown.

So a higher % of Wakefield students got in than Yorktown students? Or do I not know what to do math lol.

Nearly 25% of Wakefield students compared to 17% of Yorktown kids (out of those that applied)

That’s one way to do math. Another might be: Yorktown sends twice as many students do the state’s flagship university. But you do your math!

How big are each graduating class? NP.