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Anonymous wrote:I really have to believe that a scam would have to be much much more sophisticated before my 18 year old would fall for it. There is no way she would ever pay out $3000 of her own money, without, at the very least, coming to me or her father. The fact that many of you, as adults, are saying you would fall for it, is disturbing. And I am not the most highly intelligent person. Is this one of those high IQ vs street smarts kind of things?

Yeah a middle class kid would never fall for this bc he/she wouldn’t even have $3,000 to spend!

I mean, I would hesitate to spend 3k. I certainly didn't have it when I was a teenager.

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Anonymous wrote:You have every reason to be upset OP, but your anger should be at the scammers. We have IT security training, but certainly not on day 1. You need to treat this as a learning experience. You need to explain to your kid that no real job would ever expect a new hire to use their own money for anything. You also need to teach them to look at the email address and that the left hand side of a web address is the important part.

Lol. Tell that to all of the teachers who walk into completely empty classrooms and have to make them look decent within a few day's time.

1. None of that is required; teachers choose to do that as a gift to their students.

2. None of that is giving anything to the company that any adult would want. They are giving stuff/experience to the kids.

Teachers are required to do that because they get evaluated on classroom climate. If you literally put nothing up on your walls, no posters, no chart paper, no books for students to read in a library area, no rug/carpet if you teach early elementary, no bookshelves, then a-hole administrators mark you down when you get evaluated and you risk not getting rehired. Admin claim they paid out of pocket for supplies/materials when they were new so mall new teachers should do the same. Schools get away with this because primarily women teach elementary school.

Anonymous wrote:I really have to believe that a scam would have to be much much more sophisticated before my 18 year old would fall for it. There is no way she would ever pay out $3000 of her own money, without, at the very least, coming to me or her father. The fact that many of you, as adults, are saying you would fall for it, is disturbing. And I am not the most highly intelligent person. Is this one of those high IQ vs street smarts kind of things?

Yeah a middle class kid would never fall for this bc he/she wouldn’t even have $3,000 to spend!

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Anonymous wrote:School mom is on her way to Gucci to buy a tote bag with OP daughter’s money.

OP’s daughter should definitely file a police report and let school mom and her admin know a police report is incoming.

More likely she's betting big on the ponies or getting high at OP's kid's expense.

My mother and my step-father both -- separately -- fell for phone scams. My stepfather truly believed he was paying the taxes on the big screen TV he won using Visa gift cards. My mother ended up wire transferring $50,000 to some woman in China to "reimburse" Amazon.

Those of you who think this only happens to stupid people do not know how incredibly convincing these scammers can be. I hope you never find out.

I don't know that I would have used the word stupid but there is no way any reasonably savvy person wires 50K to someone in China to reimburse Amazon. Reimburse them for what??? And how does any functioning adult think that anyone pays taxes on anything with gift cards??? Are these older relatives of yours suffering from dementia?

Like I said, until you're in the grip of these scammers, you have no idea how convincing they can be.

This is like the people who say they could never, ever forget their kid is in the back seat. Until they do.

This is just something people tell themselves to make themselves feel better about being so gullible.

Victim blaming is never a good look.

Then stop with the "it can happen to you!". No, unless I start losing my marbles which is why preying on the elderly for these is heinous. But for a fully functional adult, just own that if you fall for the scam you were duped, should have known better, and won't let it happen again.

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Anonymous wrote:You have every reason to be upset OP, but your anger should be at the scammers. We have IT security training, but certainly not on day 1. You need to treat this as a learning experience. You need to explain to your kid that no real job would ever expect a new hire to use their own money for anything. You also need to teach them to look at the email address and that the left hand side of a web address is the important part.

Lol. Tell that to all of the teachers who walk into completely empty classrooms and have to make them look decent within a few day's time.

1. None of that is required; teachers choose to do that as a gift to their students.

2. None of that is giving anything to the company that any adult would want. They are giving stuff/experience to the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School mom is on her way to Gucci to buy a tote bag with OP daughter’s money.

OP’s daughter should definitely file a police report and let school mom and her admin know a police report is incoming.

More likely she's betting big on the ponies or getting high at OP's kid's expense.

My mother and my step-father both -- separately -- fell for phone scams. My stepfather truly believed he was paying the taxes on the big screen TV he won using Visa gift cards. My mother ended up wire transferring $50,000 to some woman in China to "reimburse" Amazon.

Those of you who think this only happens to stupid people do not know how incredibly convincing these scammers can be. I hope you never find out.

I don't know that I would have used the word stupid but there is no way any reasonably savvy person wires 50K to someone in China to reimburse Amazon. Reimburse them for what??? And how does any functioning adult think that anyone pays taxes on anything with gift cards??? Are these older relatives of yours suffering from dementia?

Dementia and general cognitive decline is very common among elderly.

Elderly who don't have close relationships with their children are another risk factor.

The easiest targets for these scams are the elderly with cognitive decline. OP's daughter is 18. I hope she learned her lesson. If so, it might have been worth 3K!

Sorry, OP, but you need to check the legitimacy of this business and ask your daughter what financial details she divulged to them.

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Anonymous wrote:School mom is on her way to Gucci to buy a tote bag with OP daughter’s money.

OP’s daughter should definitely file a police report and let school mom and her admin know a police report is incoming.

More likely she's betting big on the ponies or getting high at OP's kid's expense.

My mother and my step-father both -- separately -- fell for phone scams. My stepfather truly believed he was paying the taxes on the big screen TV he won using Visa gift cards. My mother ended up wire transferring $50,000 to some woman in China to "reimburse" Amazon.

Those of you who think this only happens to stupid people do not know how incredibly convincing these scammers can be. I hope you never find out.

I don't know that I would have used the word stupid but there is no way any reasonably savvy person wires 50K to someone in China to reimburse Amazon. Reimburse them for what??? And how does any functioning adult think that anyone pays taxes on anything with gift cards??? Are these older relatives of yours suffering from dementia?

Dementia and general cognitive decline is very common among elderly.

Elderly who don't have close relationships with their children are another risk factor.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School mom is on her way to Gucci to buy a tote bag with OP daughter’s money.

OP’s daughter should definitely file a police report and let school mom and her admin know a police report is incoming.

More likely she's betting big on the ponies or getting high at OP's kid's expense.

My mother and my step-father both -- separately -- fell for phone scams. My stepfather truly believed he was paying the taxes on the big screen TV he won using Visa gift cards. My mother ended up wire transferring $50,000 to some woman in China to "reimburse" Amazon.

Those of you who think this only happens to stupid people do not know how incredibly convincing these scammers can be. I hope you never find out.

I don't know that I would have used the word stupid but there is no way any reasonably savvy person wires 50K to someone in China to reimburse Amazon. Reimburse them for what??? And how does any functioning adult think that anyone pays taxes on anything with gift cards??? Are these older relatives of yours suffering from dementia?

Like I said, until you're in the grip of these scammers, you have no idea how convincing they can be.

This is like the people who say they could never, ever forget their kid is in the back seat. Until they do.

This is just something people tell themselves to make themselves feel better about being so gullible.

Victim blaming is never a good look.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School mom is on her way to Gucci to buy a tote bag with OP daughter’s money.

OP’s daughter should definitely file a police report and let school mom and her admin know a police report is incoming.

More likely she's betting big on the ponies or getting high at OP's kid's expense.

My mother and my step-father both -- separately -- fell for phone scams. My stepfather truly believed he was paying the taxes on the big screen TV he won using Visa gift cards. My mother ended up wire transferring $50,000 to some woman in China to "reimburse" Amazon.

Those of you who think this only happens to stupid people do not know how incredibly convincing these scammers can be. I hope you never find out.

I don't know that I would have used the word stupid but there is no way any reasonably savvy person wires 50K to someone in China to reimburse Amazon. Reimburse them for what??? And how does any functioning adult think that anyone pays taxes on anything with gift cards??? Are these older relatives of yours suffering from dementia?

Like I said, until you're in the grip of these scammers, you have no idea how convincing they can be.

This is like the people who say they could never, ever forget their kid is in the back seat. Until they do.

This is just something people tell themselves to make themselves feel better about being so gullible.

Anonymous wrote:I worry about these kids going off to college and consuming alcohol. They’re so naive about the risks.

they consume and do way more than alcohol!

I worry about these kids going off to college and consuming alcohol. They’re so naive about the risks.

Anonymous wrote:You have every reason to be upset OP, but your anger should be at the scammers. We have IT security training, but certainly not on day 1. You need to treat this as a learning experience. You need to explain to your kid that no real job would ever expect a new hire to use their own money for anything. You also need to teach them to look at the email address and that the left hand side of a web address is the important part.

Lol. Tell that to all of the teachers who walk into completely empty classrooms and have to make them look decent within a few day's time.

Anonymous wrote:You have every reason to be upset OP, but your anger should be at the scammers. We have IT security training, but certainly not on day 1. You need to treat this as a learning experience. You need to explain to your kid that no real job would ever expect a new hire to use their own money for anything. You also need to teach them to look at the email address and that the left hand side of a web address is the important part.

I'd look at the right side, too. I got a scam email telling me I urgently needed to update my credit card info to renew our domain or our website would be taken down at midnight -- only the domain listed was our company name with .online at the end, instead of .com.

You have every reason to be upset OP, but your anger should be at the scammers. We have IT security training, but certainly not on day 1. You need to treat this as a learning experience. You need to explain to your kid that no real job would ever expect a new hire to use their own money for anything. You also need to teach them to look at the email address and that the left hand side of a web address is the important part.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School mom is on her way to Gucci to buy a tote bag with OP daughter’s money.

OP’s daughter should definitely file a police report and let school mom and her admin know a police report is incoming.

More likely she's betting big on the ponies or getting high at OP's kid's expense.

My mother and my step-father both -- separately -- fell for phone scams. My stepfather truly believed he was paying the taxes on the big screen TV he won using Visa gift cards. My mother ended up wire transferring $50,000 to some woman in China to "reimburse" Amazon.

Those of you who think this only happens to stupid people do not know how incredibly convincing these scammers can be. I hope you never find out.

I don't know that I would have used the word stupid but there is no way any reasonably savvy person wires 50K to someone in China to reimburse Amazon. Reimburse them for what??? And how does any functioning adult think that anyone pays taxes on anything with gift cards??? Are these older relatives of yours suffering from dementia?

Like I said, until you're in the grip of these scammers, you have no idea how convincing they can be.

This is like the people who say they could never, ever forget their kid is in the back seat. Until they do.